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[SPL] Playoffs - Hwaseung Oz vs CJ Entus Day 1 - Page 5

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Monkeyboi2k3
Profile Joined March 2008
United States175 Posts
July 27 2009 18:32 GMT
#81
i love OZ but i think its really sad that they have to use PerfectMan when they needa put 6 in the lineup.... shows how little depth they have
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
July 27 2009 18:34 GMT
#82
The only reason Oz has a chance is the format that lets S-Class players like Jaedong play 3x a night. The strategy is to get 2 scrubs to win on either of the 2 days and let Jaedong do the rest.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 27 2009 18:36 GMT
#83
Movie is inconsistent as hell.

Which Movie shows up is going to be the key to Hiya vs Movie IMO.
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DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
July 27 2009 18:38 GMT
#84
CJ has to avoid ace match as much as they can, cuz if its ace, it means "its time" for JD.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 27 2009 18:40 GMT
#85
On July 28 2009 03:26 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2009 03:22 SkytoM wrote:
On July 28 2009 03:18 Ideas wrote:
actually tbh hiya WAS good at TvP, but his recent results vs P are horrible. 4-6 in his last 10.


4-6 is NOT horrible? I can't see Hiya losing this game.


3 loses were to GUEMCHI

another 2 to Index in a Bo3 from GOM.

he's not what he was back in the winter.
guemchi is decent
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
July 27 2009 18:55 GMT
#86
FBH lost to index, not HiyA.
Jaedong
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
July 27 2009 19:20 GMT
#87
I'm worried, the chance of Oz taking a day and Jeadong raping the super Ace match is not unlikely at all.
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EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 19:29:43
July 27 2009 19:27 GMT
#88
I was browsing wikipedia's article on mammals and found a picture of my team.

[image loading]


Though it sort of looks like CJ too. Effort's got cat eyes.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
July 27 2009 20:23 GMT
#89
As long as jaedong rapes Effort, I don't care if OZ loses every other game. :D
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
July 27 2009 20:35 GMT
#90
LOL at anyone who thinks OZ is favored on paper or on principle in this matchup. CJ has incredibly favorable MUs on both days and really only have to play "up to par" compared to OZ, who will have to pull several upsets (statistically and looking at recent trending) to even make it to ace matches.

However great JD is, he still loses 1/3 of his games and needing upsets just to take take it to ace, then assumine JD will beat Effort twice in two games (which, by the way, he is 3-3 lifetime against) is a pretty big stretch and requires everything to fall exactly into place.

While this is a winnable set for Oz (they statistically have a slight edge in ace matches over CJ's best and could get there with a few upsets) they are fighting an uphill battle in this tournament for sure.

The long and short of it: If JD loses even one game this tournament, it will be very difficult for his team to win. Even if he does not lose a game, his team will still need an upset or a revitalized HiYa to have any chance.
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invy
Profile Joined April 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina41 Posts
July 27 2009 21:04 GMT
#91
lomo > skyhigh
jaedong > effort
hiya < movie
perfectman < iris
backho > snow
killer < kwanro

jaedong > effort
forgotten0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States951 Posts
July 27 2009 21:04 GMT
#92
They need to change this map from SPL to SML... Mirrormatch League >.<
"Well it’s obvious that these Terran gamers are just extremely gifted when it comes to RTS games" -Ret, in regards to the first months of SC2
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 27 2009 21:05 GMT
#93
looks like we have 28 chumps who dont know whack
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 27 2009 21:11 GMT
#94
On July 28 2009 03:32 Monkeyboi2k3 wrote:
i love OZ but i think its really sad that they have to use PerfectMan when they needa put 6 in the lineup.... shows how little depth they have

If Killer, PerfectMan, Young and ggaemo can't win a single game, Hwaseung will be in dire straits. Moreover, I'm not so sure Jaedong can beat EffOrt in ZvZ, after their GOM games.

Crossing my fingers for Lomo and BackHo.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
July 27 2009 21:35 GMT
#95
This appears to be Oz's best chance of these two games, but the last two times I've said that, it's been a total reversal of fortunes. The key games here are Movie v. HiYa, and the big clash between Jaedong and EffOrt.

(T)Lomo < (T)sKyHigh
sKyHigh played well, but not smart in his last game against Stork. Really strong micro could not erase the deficit he incurred from such a late siege, but it didn't seem so terrible that I would in any way think of picking Lomo here. sKyHigh is a beast at TvT, as his wrecking of Leta should prove.

(Z)Jaedong > (Z)EffOrt
EffOrt is undoubtably the hottest player in the game right now, with the added bonus of being my favorite. The alien was last seen singlehandedly taking Khan's surprising proleague hopes back to his home planet to be devoured. In the meantime, Jaedong has been quietly practicing for this day. His invulnerability may have been shattered by EffOrt in GOM, but make no mistake, Jaedong is still the king, especially well-rested and well-practiced. These two are the best there is, but much as it pains me, I'm picking the Tyrant over the Messiahlisk... for now.

(T)HiyA < (P)Movie
My god, HiYa sucks. I knew he was slumping, but the once promising Terran has slipped to 1-9 in his last 10. The one glimmer of hope for Oz, is that TvP is technically HiYa's best match-up, and that Movie is as erratic as they come. This is an alternate game for Movie, and in his last game he played well, but a player of Movie's vast potential ought to be able to string two wins together, shouldn't he?

(P)PerfectMan < (T)Iris
Perfectman has absolutely no track-record, because he's really never played anything but the B-Team. Iris is such a favorite here, I almost fear an oDin scenario, but with Iris practicing TvP for Bisu, he will not get surprised here.

(P)BackHo > (P)Snow
BackHo is the experienced but strange player we know and love, and he'll win this game comfortably. I'm happy to see Snow in the line-up though, as he'll fail a lot less than either sAviOr or Much would've. Enough is enough, neither of those two are even line-up worthy anymore, look to the SKT1 model, and look to the future.

(Z)Killer - (Z)Kwanro
The last time I saw Killer play, he stayed on three bases, and Movie sat on one, and the game was probably the worst ZvP I've ever witnessed. I'll excuse that among young players, but nothing can excuse the large canister of total fail that Kwanro whipped out in the last series against Khan. Absolutely annihilated twice by Miracle, Kwanro should be ashamed and scrubbing CJ floors. Instead, he's been given a reprieve which he'll hopefully use to practice, sleep, and practice more. He'd better win.

ACE: Will CJ send out EffOrt against Jaedong? How about Movie? How about sKyHigh or Iris? How about... DarkElf? CJ's ace options are limitless here, but since they know who's coming out for Oz, they are free to prepare a snipe a la Leta. I'm excited. The advantage, however, is always with Jaedong.
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-27 21:39:55
July 27 2009 21:37 GMT
#96
jaedong was overworked and we all know that they care least about gom, so i wouldnt overrate efforts 2-0 win in gom. to me he still is a 5:3 favorite over effort.

all in all this seems very hard for oz, but i got the strange feeling that oz is gonna take this. hell, i even liquibet on oz to advance. XD"
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
July 27 2009 21:41 GMT
#97
OMG JAEDONG VS EFFORT HOLY SHIT COME ON JAEDONG YOU CAN DO IT. i REALLY REALLY hope jaedong beats effort, especially after effort's 2-0 in gom. I fucking hate effort
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
July 27 2009 21:44 GMT
#98
On July 28 2009 06:35 tree.hugger wrote:
ACE: Will CJ send out EffOrt against Jaedong? How about Movie? How about sKyHigh or Iris? How about... DarkElf? CJ's ace options are limitless here, but since they know who's coming out for Oz, they are free to prepare a snipe a la Leta. I'm excited. The advantage, however, is always with Jaedong.

Ace map is Neo Harm so JD doesn't really need to worry about Movie as much and can focus more on Effort/Skyhigh etc.
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alt.tday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States180 Posts
July 27 2009 21:44 GMT
#99
HOLY FUCKING SHIT i'm so excited. Hweasung FTW. JAEDONG FTW
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 27 2009 21:50 GMT
#100
oz's line-up isn't that deep =/

oz take this one please =< i lb'ed oz
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