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And off it goes again this year...
WCG is a joke and allways will be. I sincerely hope some other company starts a new official world championship so this shit can stop.
Even though I'm obviously not american I can't help but feel for you guys. This shit is beyond arrogant towards the players.
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Blizzard has to approve all maps to be hosted in WCG Mode, just like KBK in the past. No need to say im clueless, when this is a little-known fact.
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but the only reason it has to be hosted in wcg mode is so gamon recognizes it right? so just change gamon to recognize a different game mode
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Yeah last year's wcg, a friend of mine went 1-0 in his match, and then had to postpone it. An admin and his opponent agreed to it, but then his opponent wouldn't respond to him on msn to actually play the game. After some point the brackets were updated saying that my friend had lost. So we faked a replay and he emailed it to an admin, and then they updated the brackets saying my friend had won, just like that. What I don't understand, is how there are horror stories like about USA WCG every single year. How incompetent do you have to be to make the same mistakes year after year, with feedback from the gamers themselves, with people like Incontrol actively communicating with people high up in wcg. It's amazing really. TSL's huge success alone completely undermines any plausible excuse for this imo.
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Are they seriously going to use this map pool for grand finals?
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On April 19 2009 17:01 Nightmarjoo wrote: ...so we faked a replay and he emailed it to an admin, and then they updated the brackets saying my friend had won, just like that.
lol... wow... if you're telling the truth than WCG has more problems than i realized.
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Or I'm just amazing at copying hotkeys...!
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On April 17 2009 16:44 sMi.SyMPhOnY wrote: what? since when does wcg hire tools
edit: Shit, they always have.
Incontrol forget about it, wcg has never catered to the needs of bw gamers.
It's 2009, why now Couldn't have said it better myself.
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I'll inform everyone of the problem with WCG though. Simply put; theres not enough money in WCG USA or to be had (yet). When theres no money in it theres no real trueinterest from the people operating it which means the capable, intelligent, experienced people that WCG USA needs just don't get hired.
I think once SC2 comes out with a lot of help from Blizzard stuff like this will definitely start to change.
But for now, we must deal with these idiots.
Laurent has been and still is one of the best gaming Admins in the world.. Should not just dismiss the situation as a "lack of funds" excuse as if better leadership was willing to work for less (or work for anything at all).
After reading this thread it seems many (including Laurent) are out of place, however next time maybe some of you should set aside the "glory" aspirations and take ownership of the situation and volunteer or apply with WCG.
Best of luck to everyone still taking part in the event.
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On April 21 2009 11:20 rS.Killa wrote:Show nested quote +I'll inform everyone of the problem with WCG though. Simply put; theres not enough money in WCG USA or to be had (yet). When theres no money in it theres no real trueinterest from the people operating it which means the capable, intelligent, experienced people that WCG USA needs just don't get hired.
I think once SC2 comes out with a lot of help from Blizzard stuff like this will definitely start to change.
But for now, we must deal with these idiots. Laurent has been and still is one of the best gaming Admins in the world.. Should not just dismiss the situation as a "lack of funds" excuse as if better leadership was willing to work for less (or work for anything at all). After reading this thread it seems many (including Laurent) are out of place, however next time maybe some of you should set aside the "glory" aspirations and take ownership of the situation and volunteer or apply with WCG. Best of luck to everyone still taking part in the event.
Though you may have read this thread, you didn't read much of the other two threads on this subject.
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On April 19 2009 12:55 Laurent wrote: Blizzard has to approve all maps to be hosted in WCG Mode, just like KBK in the past. No need to say im clueless, when this is a little-known fact.
Or you could just let people play the games on a selection of standard maps. If you want to get really keen I'm sure you could find a dozen people here to take some icc maps and rename them to WCG, have a bit of WCG related text pop up at the start etc... The WCGUK admins let us play on whatever maps we thought appropriate provided we all agreed to it. Gameon is obsolete. The Blizzard maps are obsolete. Why is WCGUSA flogging a dead horse when the rest of the world either has the professionalism to update their shit or the wisdom to step back and let the gamers do what they do best?
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Well I have tried to do my best and reach out to both Inc and Laurent to put me in contact with some people who I could speak to and try to rectify this situation and both did not respond sadly. I tried my best to do all I could for WCG and recieved literally 0 feedback so I give up.
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I got your message but I am going to be honest: A friend of Dino's administrating for WCG doesn't sound like a keen strategy. I appreciate your willingness to help but I think we have it (as much as possible) under control.
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We will see how this works out, hope it will go well .
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On April 21 2009 13:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I got your message but I am going to be honest: A friend of Dino's administrating for WCG doesn't sound like a keen strategy. I appreciate your willingness to help but I think we have it (as much as possible) under control.
Don't you mean : INcontrol at the end...
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As of right now, WCGZONE GamOn Launcher has been updated to include automatic support for LAN Latency. Currently, it makes all games default to LAN Latency (L=2)
Please test it and let us know how well it works on your system. and if there are any features that we should include, such as the variable Latency. (making room name ending with _L3 gives Latency 3).
If you already have WCGZONE GamOn, just start it and it will automatically update. If you do not have the client, you can download it at http://file.wcgzone.com/WCGZoneInst_080602a.exe.
Thanks! Sang Hong World Cyber Games / Manager of Contents Development sanger at wcg dot com
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I have been boycotting WCG since 2005.
It's clear the people in charge at WCG do not intend to think beyond "if we hold this video game thing, nerds will come, and we can cash in on advertising." They don't give a fuck about the integrity of the tournament or who wins.
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Your timing is a bit off, seeing as how Sang Hong came to our website to let us know of the lan latency update. They really do care.
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On April 21 2009 13:50 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I got your message but I am going to be honest: A friend of Dino's administrating for WCG doesn't sound like a keen strategy. I appreciate your willingness to help but I think we have it (as much as possible) under control. if u need any help let me kno geoff i'll help out
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