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Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
March 02 2009 02:36 GMT
#2021
On March 02 2009 11:03 MorningMusume11 wrote:
That lack of hold position on his Zealots was frustrating to watch... even if you're wanting Jaedong to win


So true, it feels almost like a hollow victory. Still, good shit LJD
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 02:40:46
March 02 2009 02:38 GMT
#2022
[image loading]
Together but separate, like oatmeal
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 02 2009 02:40 GMT
#2023
On March 02 2009 11:35 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Bisu knew that and had a probe with his zealots. What happened to it?


I think jd dragged the probe away from the wall with his lings and killed it, or the probe was misplaced (ie. infront of the zealtos and thus making attacking lings out of range of the zealots), leaving the gap.

Whenever Bisu did something a bit weird he lost. He should have just stuck to FE, templar tech.

*wipes tears away from his face*

bisu fanboy
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8171 Posts
March 02 2009 02:44 GMT
#2024
oh man, the more i look bad on the series the more sad I get that it had such an abrupt end :\
Free Palestine
qpirateking
Profile Joined March 2009
United States17 Posts
March 02 2009 02:45 GMT
#2025
If you watch the unit counting station, you see that bisu's probe count goes from 19 to 18 at the moment when JD breaks through. It wasn't a hold position mistake -- bisu's wall got broken.
Pois a rosa è uma flor
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 02:58:33
March 02 2009 02:48 GMT
#2026
On March 02 2009 11:35 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Bisu knew that and had a probe with his zealots. What happened to it?


Yes, clearly we can assume Bisu knows what is and is not necessary to block that ramp.

So either, you CAN block it with 2 zealots with absolutely perfect positioning, or he had a probe and lost it: So the question does become what happened to the probe?


My assumption, after watching the VOD like 40 times and laughing everytime tasteless yells "ITS CALLED HOLD POSITION BRO!!!"

(BTW - + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


is that i'm pretty sure JD killed the probe. Its gay because the stupid observer was watching 1 ling chasing around a probe in JD's base - but you can clearly see on the minimap that some zerglings come in BEFORE the main group, that there are dead lings right in front of the zealot (blood splatter left over right where a probe kill could have taken place) when the main lings get there, AND that bisu has a probe travelling already towards the ramp that cleary left BEFORE the lings broke the ramp, assumedly to fill in the spot of the dead probe.

*EDIT*

YES, as the poster above me proved. Jaedong did indeed kill the probe!
The Probe count clearly goes from 19 back down to 18, with the scouting probe NOT yet dead

Whoaaa this adds a whole new dimension to it! At least now its not Bisu making a rookie mistake and not knowing the map - but Jaedong actually actively creating holes in his defense
Writerman what
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 02 2009 02:51 GMT
#2027
Wow Atrioc, what an indepth post just to say that Jaedong killed the probe. Bravo. You should be a writer.
Jaedong
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
March 02 2009 02:53 GMT
#2028
I was about to say the same thing. If JD indeed did kill the probe, which after watching the VOD again it looks like he did, then it was not a hollow victory at all but a well earned one by JD.

Jaedong > Bisu without reservation.
Pulp can move, baby!
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
March 02 2009 02:53 GMT
#2029
writers have this thing called "Economy of words"
SickTighT
Profile Joined April 2007
United States337 Posts
March 02 2009 02:58 GMT
#2030
game 5 really didn't live up to my expectations

i wouldn't call it a hollow victory for JD but it's kind of disappointing for fans of competitive SC

we were deprived of epicness
aka's Is[fOrGe], f0cUs)Panic
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
March 02 2009 03:05 GMT
#2031
I think huge blunders are pretty epic. Seeing one of the the best players make a huge huge huge mistake is fun for me to watch.
#1 Kwanro Fan
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 02 2009 03:07 GMT
#2032
His only blunder was to not keep his probe in line. Since probes can't hold position.
Jaedong
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
March 02 2009 03:09 GMT
#2033
On March 02 2009 12:07 Avidkeystamper wrote:
His only blunder was to not keep his probe in line. Since probes can't hold position.


Yes they can if you group them with other units.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 02 2009 03:09 GMT
#2034
Nvm, I'm dumb.
Jaedong
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
March 02 2009 03:12 GMT
#2035
i guess his blunder was not having a second or third probe there in time. it would have been nice if the observer showed it
sym
Profile Joined November 2008
United States58 Posts
March 02 2009 03:35 GMT
#2036
On March 02 2009 12:07 Avidkeystamper wrote:
His only blunder was to not keep his probe in line. Since probes can't hold position.

the probe died
how do you hold position a dead probe
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
March 02 2009 03:40 GMT
#2037
The correct positiion would have been

--> Up ramp direction -->

...Zealot
...........Probe
...Zealot

bisu fanboy
imperfect
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada1652 Posts
March 02 2009 03:42 GMT
#2038
sounded like a good series. well of course except game 5, where apparently everyone is disappointed. i will definitely watch the games once they're uploaded.

anyway let's just hope that this is just a preview of the OSL finals! ^^

bisu fighting!
blind bisu free and anytime fanboy.
Fr33t
Profile Joined June 2008
United States1128 Posts
March 02 2009 03:48 GMT
#2039
On March 02 2009 11:38 bumatlarge wrote:
[image loading]

ROFL, that picture was made for that.
"Wow you could literally transport Lomo's face to a girl and the result would be pretty deceptive."
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
March 02 2009 03:53 GMT
#2040
On March 02 2009 12:42 imperfect wrote:
sounded like a good series. well of course except game 5, where apparently everyone is disappointed. i will definitely watch the games once they're uploaded.

anyway let's just hope that this is just a preview of the OSL finals! ^^

bisu fighting!

They're already up at gomtv.net I doubt there will be anywhere else for a long time.
Jaedong
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