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[GOM] Averatec-Intel Classic Special Match - Page 104

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Nylan
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States795 Posts
March 02 2009 09:06 GMT
#2061
Hwaseung Oz jacket. I want
BeSt/Pure/Canata/Calm - I believe in Doh Jae Wook
HanN00b
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany1441 Posts
March 02 2009 11:18 GMT
#2062
This thread definitely need 100k clicks dont you think so?
Team name: Borussia Dortmunds Star(craft) Team (10) (Z)Jaedong (Captain) (7) (P)JangBi (2) (T)Bogus (2) (Z)sAviOr (2) (P)BackHo (0) (Z)YellOw (7) Lecaf Oz
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9030 Posts
March 02 2009 11:25 GMT
#2063
3-3
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
March 02 2009 11:32 GMT
#2064
Bisu's new elo peak after Special Match is 2353. Does it mean that Kespa consider this match as official match?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66356 Posts
March 02 2009 12:59 GMT
#2065
Wow wtf? 104 pages lol. Will there be VODs of this? I have horrible stream on Gom.
POGGERS
boxxyownz
Profile Joined February 2009
United States103 Posts
March 02 2009 13:08 GMT
#2066
On March 02 2009 20:32 monstar123 wrote:
Bisu's new elo peak after Special Match is 2353. Does it mean that Kespa consider this match as official match?

yes
zzz
ASAzerg
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada33 Posts
March 02 2009 14:33 GMT
#2067
I think Bisu actually did hold position his probe. In his 2nd attempt to block the ramp which imprisoned the harassing lings, you can see that all the probes were in hold position cause they didn't try to pursue the lings. Come on, Bisu won't make such a noob mistake. What Jaedong meant by lucky win is that Bisu didn't have the ideal defense, which would probably be 3 zealots on the ramp. Or if he would use probe, at least put a few of them cause it's so easy to get sniped and leave hole on the defense as can be seen here.
verzisor
Profile Joined February 2009
Romania73 Posts
March 02 2009 16:05 GMT
#2068
NoOOoOOoOoOooooOO... Bisu should've won 3-1...only if he didn't do the stupid unconventional builds( T.T
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
March 02 2009 16:53 GMT
#2069
On March 02 2009 23:33 ASAzerg wrote:
I think Bisu actually did hold position his probe. In his 2nd attempt to block the ramp which imprisoned the harassing lings, you can see that all the probes were in hold position cause they didn't try to pursue the lings. Come on, Bisu won't make such a noob mistake. What Jaedong meant by lucky win is that Bisu didn't have the ideal defense, which would probably be 3 zealots on the ramp. Or if he would use probe, at least put a few of them cause it's so easy to get sniped and leave hole on the defense as can be seen here.

the mistake bisu did was that he did not have a backup blocking probe close enough to stop the lings from breaking through after killing that first probe. The luck part I imagine is since JD didn't have his OL there he couldn't know if bisu really did have a backup probe on the high ledge, and if bisu had ,JD would probably have wasted 3-4 lings trying to get up but fail. He took the risk since he thought he was behind (according to his interview) and it paid off. This is my interpretation and it might be totally incorrect.
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
powderfinger
Profile Joined February 2009
9 Posts
March 02 2009 17:49 GMT
#2070
I love Bisu, but his fans need to realize that when StarCraft is played at this high of a level it will almost always come down to who is the best on that particular day. The result of one single series doesn't allow you to say "OMG Bisu >>> JD" anymore than "OMG JD >>> Bisu" because it doesn't make the next meeting of these two players any easier to predict.

Congratulations to JD. I can't wait until the next time these monsters meet up.
I would rather have a bottle infront of me than a frontal lobotomy
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
March 02 2009 17:56 GMT
#2071
On March 03 2009 02:49 powderfinger wrote:
I love Bisu, but his fans need to realize that when StarCraft is played at this high of a level it will almost always come down to who is the best on that particular day. The result of one single series doesn't allow you to say "OMG Bisu >>> JD" anymore than "OMG JD >>> Bisu" because it doesn't make the next meeting of these two players any easier to predict.

Congratulations to JD. I can't wait until the next time these monsters meet up.

yeah I agree, + what's with this affirmation?!
On March 03 2009 01:05 verzisor wrote:
NoOOoOOoOoOooooOO... Bisu should've won 3-1...only if he didn't do the stupid unconventional builds( T.T

HOW do u know that bisu would've won that if they played "standard" ?
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
verzisor
Profile Joined February 2009
Romania73 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 18:35:51
March 02 2009 18:33 GMT
#2072
Well I don't... but be real when Bisu played standard in games 1, and 3 he OWNED Jaedong the same way Jaedong OWNED him with luck in game 2 and bcz of non-standard builds in games 4 and 5. This would suggest that therefore Bisu is superior in standard play, but Jaedong knows how to take opportunities better than Bisu does.

And don't say that I hate Jaedong cause I don't...he's my 2nd or 3rd favorite player (tied with Stork), but I have to say that Bisu's game is above Jaedong's currently. He even admitted that he felt embarrased after the game (in the interview) and that's because he realized that Bisu was superior and his victory was "unfair".
ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
March 02 2009 18:36 GMT
#2073
Enogh jd won fair and square no cheap tricks or cheese that's good enough for me. Props to bisu for trying his best. In the end the legend killer does what he's made to do. Tyrant > Beesuit for now
I'd like that Rosh cheeze with some whine.////.... When you feel down and lost read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
March 02 2009 18:41 GMT
#2074
On March 03 2009 03:33 verzisor wrote:
Well I don't... but be real when Bisu played standard in games 1, and 3 he OWNED Jaedong the same way Jaedong OWNED him with luck in game 2 and bcz of non-standard builds in games 4 and 5. This would suggest that therefore Bisu is superior in standard play, but Jaedong knows how to take opportunities better than Bisu does.

And don't say that I hate Jaedong cause I don't...he's my 2nd or 3rd favorite player (tied with Stork), but I have to say that Bisu's game is above Jaedong's currently. He even admitted that he felt embarrased after the game (in the interview) and that's because he realized that Bisu was superior and his victory was "unfair".

hahaha, "Jaedong OWNED Bisu , with luck"
also Bisu didn`t owned jd in the first game
+JD owned bisu in the 4th game
I won`t say that JD played better than Bisu in that series(even though that's what I think) but certainly Bisu didn`t played better than JD
Anyway, no point arguing with you, this is a clear example of that poll...
also, stop taking such dumb conclusions(" and that's because he realized that Bisu was superior and his victory was "unfair" " )...uhm, WHAT?!
also, "Jedong OWNED Bisu....with luck" ...oh my, haha
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
verzisor
Profile Joined February 2009
Romania73 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-02 18:46:03
March 02 2009 18:44 GMT
#2075
LOL my god... I can't believe so many people are blind fanboys... get real Bisu's game was above Jaedong's. The luck was the fact that JD sniped that first shuttle... Bisu couldn't do any harassment. bcz of that.

LOL and not to mention that it's clear that you are one of Jaedong's fanboys...look at your favourite team, and your quote. I agree JD won fair and square but that doesn't make him the superior or better player. The better player isn't necessarily the one that won.
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
March 02 2009 18:46 GMT
#2076
On March 03 2009 03:33 verzisor wrote:
Well I don't... but be real when Bisu played standard in games 1, and 3 he OWNED Jaedong the same way Jaedong OWNED him with luck in game 2 and bcz of non-standard builds in games 4 and 5. This would suggest that therefore Bisu is superior in standard play, but Jaedong knows how to take opportunities better than Bisu does.

And don't say that I hate Jaedong cause I don't...he's my 2nd or 3rd favorite player (tied with Stork), but I have to say that Bisu's game is above Jaedong's currently. He even admitted that he felt embarrased after the game (in the interview) and that's because he realized that Bisu was superior and his victory was "unfair".


How did Jaedong own Bisu with luck? In game two he perfectly sniped Bisu's first shuttle and defended superbly against his DT/Reaver harass. And I don't recall 3 hatch mutas into 5 hatch hydras in game four or a 9 pool speed build in game five being "non-standard".

And of course Jaedong would say that he felt embarrassed. If you look at all his interviews, he always credits his opponents and is extremely humble (unlike someone...).
Graphics
verzisor
Profile Joined February 2009
Romania73 Posts
March 02 2009 18:49 GMT
#2077
On March 03 2009 03:46 Sigrun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2009 03:33 verzisor wrote:
Well I don't... but be real when Bisu played standard in games 1, and 3 he OWNED Jaedong the same way Jaedong OWNED him with luck in game 2 and bcz of non-standard builds in games 4 and 5. This would suggest that therefore Bisu is superior in standard play, but Jaedong knows how to take opportunities better than Bisu does.

And don't say that I hate Jaedong cause I don't...he's my 2nd or 3rd favorite player (tied with Stork), but I have to say that Bisu's game is above Jaedong's currently. He even admitted that he felt embarrased after the game (in the interview) and that's because he realized that Bisu was superior and his victory was "unfair".


How did Jaedong own Bisu with luck? In game two he perfectly sniped Bisu's first shuttle and defended superbly against his DT/Reaver harass. And I don't recall 3 hatch mutas into 5 hatch hydras in game four or a 9 pool speed build in game five being "non-standard".

And of course Jaedong would say that he felt embarrassed. If you look at all his interviews, he always credits his opponents and is extremely humble (unlike someone...).



By non-standard I refer to Bisu's play...I don't get why he chose the 1 gate into nex...
ichimarugin680
Profile Joined February 2009
United States182 Posts
March 02 2009 18:55 GMT
#2078
Sigh fan or not the winner is the winner that's why I stated for now
I'd like that Rosh cheeze with some whine.////.... When you feel down and lost read Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
wwooaa
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Croatia179 Posts
March 02 2009 18:57 GMT
#2079
On March 02 2009 23:33 ASAzerg wrote:
I think Bisu actually did hold position his probe. In his 2nd attempt to block the ramp which imprisoned the harassing lings, you can see that all the probes were in hold position cause they didn't try to pursue the lings. Come on, Bisu won't make such a noob mistake. What Jaedong meant by lucky win is that Bisu didn't have the ideal defense, which would probably be 3 zealots on the ramp. Or if he would use probe, at least put a few of them cause it's so easy to get sniped and leave hole on the defense as can be seen here.


probes can't be put on hold position, you fail
wWoOaA)Is( /// kasda.cry...Ninjas can't catch you if you are on FIRE !
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
March 02 2009 18:59 GMT
#2080
they can if you group them with another unit, but i didn't see the games, so dunno if he had a zealot
aka DTF-ZeRo
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