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ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
January 04 2009 07:52 GMT
#1141
On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?

Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.

s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.

sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.

Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum.


We also learned that annoying ragnorak girl is actually pretty hot and more_minerals will suck a row of dicks.
Wake up Mr. B!
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
January 04 2009 07:52 GMT
#1142
On January 04 2009 16:52 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


It was Bisu vs Effort not Protoss vs Zerg

Protoss vs Zerg is balanced

But Effort lost to the better PLAYER.


This

Any other P probably would've been rolled.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 04 2009 07:53 GMT
#1143
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


nothing because KESPA rotates map imbalance when they get tired of one race dominating.
RIP Aaliyah
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 04 2009 07:53 GMT
#1144
Even though CJ lost, we have the Ragnarok chick:

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Torlak
Profile Joined August 2007
Macedonia74 Posts
January 04 2009 07:53 GMT
#1145
Damn right it's ridiculous, Effort played so well and yet he lost! P is fucking imba with all their units of mass destruction, it's been proven time and time again.
I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#1146
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.
go cry a river.. it was a good game
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#1147
On January 04 2009 16:51 Jaeden wrote:
Great game, great play by bisu, however that scout wasn`t brilliant at all, I guess bisu was really waitin` for effort to gg earlier.


im just curious, what did you like that bisu did in this specific pvz. Dont mention brilliant things, just state something that he did well compared to his regular self
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#1148
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


You probably are just a CJ fan.
SKT1!
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-04 07:54:42
January 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#1149
P IS IMBA LOLSODLSODLSODL TYHEY ARE SO GAY STUPID PROTOSS THEY'RE GAY

I never though I'd see the day people were complaining about PvZ in favor of P.

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE LOST TO BISU

1a2a3a's FAULT FUCK PROTOSS.


Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
January 04 2009 07:54 GMT
#1150
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


It's a bit much to say that Protoss is unbeatable, although I think we've seen Medusa favor Protoss. I think Effort could have played better earlier on to not let it become an even base war, which, as we know, Protoss will win the vast majority of the time.

For example, he lost a bunch of material in a failed hydra drop at the beginning. Instead of wasting that money, he could have expanded.

Zerg need to play differently on these maps earlier on to maintain a 1-2 base economic advantage.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 04 2009 07:55 GMT
#1151
On January 04 2009 16:52 Metallingus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:52 fearus wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


It was Bisu vs Effort not Protoss vs Zerg

Protoss vs Zerg is balanced

But Effort lost to the better PLAYER.


This

Any other P probably would've been rolled.


Bullshit, if it was a balanced map Effort would have destroyed Bisu.

Yeah Bisu is obviously gosu and a lesser Protoss would have been rolled. But Eff0rt had to work twice as hard to keep up with the SAME BASES on a SUPER IMBA MAP.

Why do people ignore map imbalance, it matters a lot. Sometimes the person who played better doesn't win, because of map imbalance. Games on Katrina in the earlier seasons are a fine example.
RIP Aaliyah
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
January 04 2009 07:55 GMT
#1152
On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?

Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.

s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.

sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.

Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum.

how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
January 04 2009 07:55 GMT
#1153
Yeah that drop looked like a good idea but it really didn't work out. He might have been better off going for the min-only and fighting at the ramp. Would have been harder for the Reaver to get a good landing spot and for the Zealots to come in and clean up so easily. That drop wasn't a bad idea but failing it hurt a lot....
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
January 04 2009 07:56 GMT
#1154
uh oh here comes the imba maps comments
Taek Bang Fighting!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 04 2009 07:56 GMT
#1155
Yeah Protoss isn't imbalanced at all, it's the maps and just the fact that the protoss players right now are just really fucking good.

There aren't that many highly skilled zerg in comparison, same with Terran.

Bisu deserved plenty of credit, but so does Medusa.
RIP Aaliyah
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
January 04 2009 07:56 GMT
#1156
God I hate Bisu that smug cockface. After a really well played game by Effort, the faggot shows no respect for a good game and makes a scout. Tonight you just reaffirmed my loathing of you, you little cunt.

Please own him Flash
Pulp can move, baby!
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
January 04 2009 07:57 GMT
#1157
it's a good morning for me, hahahahahahaha

waking up at 7am to watch 1 easy game and 1 good game from bisu. YOU MADE ME A DAY and it's just 9am lol

i'm heading out and good luck for him to beat flash!
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
January 04 2009 07:57 GMT
#1158
On January 04 2009 16:52 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


It was Bisu vs Effort not Protoss vs Zerg

Protoss vs Zerg is balanced

But Effort lost to the better PLAYER.


Well put. If Effort had been against a lesser player, like Kal, I think he might have won this game. Bisu just showed extraordinary decision making, multi-tasking, harassment, unit composition, micro, etc.
food
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1951 Posts
January 04 2009 07:57 GMT
#1159
On January 04 2009 16:52 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


It was Bisu vs Effort not Protoss vs Zerg

Protoss vs Zerg is balanced

But Effort lost to the better PLAYER.


u should start watching more games of bisu, free, kal, best, jangbi and explain why is there 5-6 protosses out there all of a sudden that are beating top ranked zergs consistently. If you pay attention to games( which i cant ask you of), u will notice even weirder things - these zergs make less to no mistakes lately. They still lose. If they win its due to a "smart" play usually
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
January 04 2009 07:57 GMT
#1160
On January 04 2009 16:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2009 16:52 Metallingus wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:52 fearus wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:
On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...

Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.

He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.

A great game.


i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this.


It was Bisu vs Effort not Protoss vs Zerg

Protoss vs Zerg is balanced

But Effort lost to the better PLAYER.


This

Any other P probably would've been rolled.


Bullshit, if it was a balanced map Effort would have destroyed Bisu.

Yeah Bisu is obviously gosu and a lesser Protoss would have been rolled. But Eff0rt had to work twice as hard to keep up with the SAME BASES on a SUPER IMBA MAP.

Why do people ignore map imbalance, it matters a lot. Sometimes the person who played better doesn't win, because of map imbalance. Games on Katrina in the earlier seasons are a fine example.

why do you think effor had to work so hard? because he allowed protoss to be on even bases with him lol, even bases always favors protoss, im amazed that so many people are shocked that bisu won, he was never extremely far behind
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