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Good day for me. Too bad I wasn't around to watch.
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On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was
Did you even watch the early game?
It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way.
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Please steamroll him Flash
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Pathetic zerg fans Always same PvZ imbalance whining.
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edit: nvm you just like savior
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On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way.
yep
the plan was perfect and the execution was really good
he just never had enough units
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Effort played well, so did Bisu. Bisu won because of the extra strength granted him by his throng of screaming fangirls. It's that simple, folks.
On January 04 2009 17:00 Aux1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way. lol, the only pattern in all of these games is that savior is LOSING. savior is not showing what he can do again, he has been struggling to keep up with people in the mid/late game for a long time now
..so what? Losing to Best and Free isn't exactly something to hang your head in shame about. He played pretty well, I don't think see why you have a problem admitting this.
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On January 04 2009 16:57 food wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 16:52 fearus wrote:On January 04 2009 16:49 food wrote:On January 04 2009 16:46 Random_0 wrote:
Incredible... just incredible...
Effort played sooo well. He played 3 base zerg vs. 3 base Protoss for a long time, and held.
He played 4 base zerg vs. 4 base Protoss for a longer time, and held. Through creative play, Nexus snipes, wonderful unit positioning and flanking, and continual observer sniping, he stayed in the game and made it much closer than it should have been.
A great game. i cant agree. Its all true, but u cant just say it was a great game. Zerg played near perfect and still lost. Protoss lost infinite shuttles/templars/reaver even nexuses and still won. Saying this was a great game without a bitter notation is just wrong. This was a sad game, at the moment i dont know what zerg can do to overcome this. It was Bisu vs Effort not Protoss vs Zerg Protoss vs Zerg is balanced But Effort lost to the better PLAYER. u should start watching more games of bisu, free, kal, best, jangbi and explain why is there 5-6 protosses out there all of a sudden that are beating top ranked zergs consistently. If you pay attention to games( which i cant ask you of), u will notice even weirder things - these zergs make less to no mistakes lately. They still lose. If they win its due to a "smart" play usually
Yeah they're incredible players, but denying map imbalance is idiotic. If the maps were balanced there wouldn't be 6 dragons, there would be like 4. And they would lose more games.
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On January 04 2009 17:00 abakben wrote:Pathetic zerg fans Always same PvZ imbalance whining.
im not a zerg fan by any means. Latest trends in progaming in tvz/pvz are scaring the shit out of me. I like it entertaining, not miserable.
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On January 04 2009 17:00 Aux1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way. lol, the only pattern in all of these games is that savior is LOSING. savior is not showing what he can do again, he has been struggling to keep up with people in the mid/late game for a long time now
Way to ignore the game. Yeah he's losing, but he's doing a fuckton better than he was doing 2-3 seasons ago. 2-3 seasons ago he sucked from beginning to end. Now he's showing his dominant micro play and army control.
Obviously his macro is improving.
Besides, who can keep up with Do Jae Wook on a map that gives toss 3 free bases?
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On January 04 2009 16:51 Jaeden wrote:
Great game, great play by bisu, however that scout wasn`t brilliant at all, I guess bisu was really waitin` for effort to gg earlier.
Definitely so
Bisu would like to show with great advantage as well as take down his opponent ASAP
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On January 04 2009 17:01 food wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 17:00 abakben wrote:Pathetic zerg fans Always same PvZ imbalance whining. im not a zerg fan by any means. Latest trends in progaming in tvz/pvz are scaring the shit out of me. I like it entertaining, not miserable.
It is a sad day for zerg when Jaedong loses to Canata.
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Thing is, the meta game changed and is more protoss friendly. It's just a bitch to see great players lose because they can't change along with the meta game.
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On January 04 2009 17:01 food wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 17:00 abakben wrote:Pathetic zerg fans Always same PvZ imbalance whining. im not a zerg fan by any means. Latest trends in progaming in tvz/pvz are scaring the shit out of me. I like it entertaining, not miserable.
The zerg metagame hasn't changed to catch up with the new Metal builds. When they do TvZ will be balanced.
When the map pool changes PvZ results will.
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All the games were pretty close! (Aside from Game 2)
Bisu + BeSt continues to carry the team together loll
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On January 04 2009 17:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 17:00 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way. lol, the only pattern in all of these games is that savior is LOSING. savior is not showing what he can do again, he has been struggling to keep up with people in the mid/late game for a long time now Way to ignore the game. Yeah he's losing, but he's doing a fuckton better than he was doing 2-3 seasons ago. 2-3 seasons ago he sucked from beginning to end. Now he's showing his dominant micro play and army control. Obviously his macro is improving. Besides, who can keep up with Do Jae Wook on a map that gives toss 3 free bases?
people need to read this - it's not like Savior just let him get his macro up ez. Best was just chilling on his 3 base knowing that the Zealot rape would happen soon.
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On January 04 2009 17:05 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 17:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 17:00 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way. lol, the only pattern in all of these games is that savior is LOSING. savior is not showing what he can do again, he has been struggling to keep up with people in the mid/late game for a long time now Way to ignore the game. Yeah he's losing, but he's doing a fuckton better than he was doing 2-3 seasons ago. 2-3 seasons ago he sucked from beginning to end. Now he's showing his dominant micro play and army control. Obviously his macro is improving. Besides, who can keep up with Do Jae Wook on a map that gives toss 3 free bases? people need to read this - it's not like Savior just let him get his macro up ez. Best was just chilling on his 3 base knowing that the Zealot rape would happen soon.
He's 12-0 on Colosseum lol
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On January 04 2009 17:00 fusionsdf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way. yep the plan was perfect and the execution was really good he just never had enough units
which is what happens when you lose every single overlord on the map and other nearby maps for a significant period of time.
once that happened savior fell a step behind and was chasing the game, as evidenced by his poor responses to everything best did after that.
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On January 04 2009 17:06 Lachrymose wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 17:00 fusionsdf wrote:On January 04 2009 16:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 04 2009 16:55 Aux1 wrote:On January 04 2009 16:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So what did we learn today?
Canata doesn't know how to win games, no matter how good he is.
s2 is a joke and must have thought he was playing ZvT or something.
sAviOr is showing some streaks of his old dominance, he just needs to brush up his late-game management.
Eff0rt is a complete and total baller, even if Bisu won. Hanging in with BISU on MEDUSA for that long is about as easy as shoving a log up your bum. how is it that every time savior loses (so every time he plays recently) savior lovers manage to say "fuck hes almost there" "he just needs to do this" savior simply isnt the same dominating player he was Did you even watch the early game? It was like 2006 again. Then his mid/late game management couldn't keep up with BeSt's macro. But he made BeSt look like a noob for a bit. sAviOr is showing what he can do again. He has been doing better recently, and showing more of what he's capable of. Look at his games v.s Pretty in GOM. He lost the series but showed some terrific micro/management. Game 1 was awesome, the game on Neo requiem could have gone either way. yep the plan was perfect and the execution was really good he just never had enough units which is what happens when you lose every single overlord on the map and other nearby maps for a significant period of time. once that happened savior fell a step behind and was chasing the game, as evidenced by his poor responses to everything best did after that.
he lost too many overlords, but he did rape every single one of BeSts shuttles/corsairs which is an almost even economic disadvantage.
sAviOr just couldn't do anything about the ball.
He wasn't aggresive enough, tbh
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