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hades gathering more mutas as time goes on
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hyuk making 2nd gas at his nat
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hades finally starts mining gas at his nat...just as hyuk finishes his own expansion. hades is remaking his pool.
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hades killing a few overlords of hyuk's
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Braavos36388 Posts
On December 20 2008 15:08 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2008 15:03 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:59 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:57 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:55 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:53 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:51 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:47 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:45 OneOther wrote:
That map is so fucking imba =/ But gotta give Fantasy for playing it perfectly Psh don't make excuses, Sin Chupung only has 3 games and it's 3-0 TvP, but Chupung is P>T (19-10) accourding to TLPD. Dunno what the changes are from regular Chupung to Sin, but i doubt it completely swung it imba in favor Terran. Fantasy played extremely well, Jangbi played average. That's what happens. On December 20 2008 14:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Sin Chupung-Ryeong
TvZ: 4-0 (100%)
PvT: 0-3 (0%) (0-4 after this game)
wonder when teams choose only Terran this map :D yes, your ginormous sample size of 3 games. look at the original chupung please chupung is awful pvt if you don't do some damage early game, or harassment. a lot of protoss players have done things like proxy to gain advantage, but i guess nothing went right for jangbi. if the game goes into midgame without toss doing any damage it gets really hard, as you saw. what other map can you do that shit as terran look at the stats, its 19-13 P>T shit's not imba jangbi lost because fantasy played better, don't make excuses because of the map fuck i never said fantasy didn't play well. but the only reason why he was able to camp and abuse emp like that was because of the map. jesus "that map is so fucking imba" is a completely inaccurate way to describe PvT on there there's on way it can be "so fucking imba" for TvP when it's 19-13 PVT IN FAVOR OF PROTOSS that's all i'm saying stop using chupung tlpd stats. a lot of pvts were won with proxy gate zeals, surprise dt drops, reaver, and other builds oriented that way. a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced. yes, jangbi failed to do damage with dts. yes, fantasy played it well. but that cannot be denied. saying "a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced" is like me saying "a ZvT going into late game when the Zerg has 4+ gas is imbalanced" you cant put preconditions on matchups, so what if PvTs were won with those builds? that has to be factored into the equation on the balance of the map, you can't just ignore all games except ones where terrans sustain no early/midgame damage and say "well THOSE are imba" that's like a Z doing a 2 hatch build, doing no damage, then me saying well if a Zerg can't do early game damage with his 2 hatch, it's IMBA TVZ. doesn't make sense, threat and execution of those proxy / dt drops / reaver builds are a large part of PvT you can't simply ignore them. by that definition every TvP on any map is imbalanced in favor of Terran then (imposing your "sustained no damage until late game" conditions). LOL a pvt going into standard mid-late/late game is NOTHING like saying zvt is imba with zerg getting 4+ gas. hahaha, on a balanced pvt map, pvt should be fair going into mid-late/late game without protoss doing any damage. seriously, your examples are awful man. if a zerg does 2 hatch build and does no damage, then it's the zerg player's fault. if the protoss and terran play standard going into the late game, and the game favors terran, then yeah, my point stands. why? because it would be fair on any other map. 2 hatch/zerg getting 4 gas has nothing to do with this because that solely depends on the players.
if a P goes fast DT or DT drop and doesn't do damage and is behind going into late game don't blame it on a map "being so fucking imba"
it boggles my mind that you'd stretch so far to make excuses for Jangbi getting owned
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Great decides to rebuild his spawning pool, figuring it'll be useful sometime later on.
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ROFL NICE FAKEOUT BY GREAT BAITS MUTAS WITh 1 GROUP NOW RAPING DRONES WITH A 2nd group
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DAMN that was a nice diversion by hades.
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HADES LURES HYUK'S MUTAS AWAY AND KILLS MANY OF HYUK'S DRONES WITH ANOTHER BATCH OF MUTAS
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Hyuk's finally realizing he has a muta advantage, time to drone whore
OH DAMN Hades splits mutas in two groups, lures hyuk away with one group and harasses drones with other!
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WOW.
So basically great had 2 groups.
He brought 1 group and baited hyuk's mutas.
The other group went to Hyuk's main and sniped a lot of drones (like 3-4?)
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Hyuk gets tricked lol, as he takes the dual muta group bait. Hades scores quite a few drone kills.
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wow did u c that muta split?
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Braavos36388 Posts
btw that was a sick move from great
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On December 20 2008 15:11 sung_moon wrote:
wow did u c that muta split?
lol i saw that, that was incredible. wow.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
4 fucking spore colonies at Great's main. Fucking ridiculous.
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United States10774 Posts
On December 20 2008 15:10 wombo combo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2008 15:08 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 15:03 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:59 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:57 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:55 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:53 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:51 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:47 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:45 OneOther wrote:
That map is so fucking imba =/ But gotta give Fantasy for playing it perfectly Psh don't make excuses, Sin Chupung only has 3 games and it's 3-0 TvP, but Chupung is P>T (19-10) accourding to TLPD. Dunno what the changes are from regular Chupung to Sin, but i doubt it completely swung it imba in favor Terran. Fantasy played extremely well, Jangbi played average. That's what happens. On December 20 2008 14:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Sin Chupung-Ryeong
TvZ: 4-0 (100%)
PvT: 0-3 (0%) (0-4 after this game)
wonder when teams choose only Terran this map :D yes, your ginormous sample size of 3 games. look at the original chupung please chupung is awful pvt if you don't do some damage early game, or harassment. a lot of protoss players have done things like proxy to gain advantage, but i guess nothing went right for jangbi. if the game goes into midgame without toss doing any damage it gets really hard, as you saw. what other map can you do that shit as terran look at the stats, its 19-13 P>T shit's not imba jangbi lost because fantasy played better, don't make excuses because of the map fuck i never said fantasy didn't play well. but the only reason why he was able to camp and abuse emp like that was because of the map. jesus "that map is so fucking imba" is a completely inaccurate way to describe PvT on there there's on way it can be "so fucking imba" for TvP when it's 19-13 PVT IN FAVOR OF PROTOSS that's all i'm saying stop using chupung tlpd stats. a lot of pvts were won with proxy gate zeals, surprise dt drops, reaver, and other builds oriented that way. a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced. yes, jangbi failed to do damage with dts. yes, fantasy played it well. but that cannot be denied. saying "a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced" is like me saying "a ZvT going into late game when the Zerg has 4+ gas is imbalanced" you cant put preconditions on matchups, so what if PvTs were won with those builds? that has to be factored into the equation on the balance of the map, you can't just ignore all games except ones where terrans sustain no early/midgame damage and say "well THOSE are imba" that's like a Z doing a 2 hatch build, doing no damage, then me saying well if a Zerg can't do early game damage with his 2 hatch, it's IMBA TVZ. doesn't make sense, threat and execution of those proxy / dt drops / reaver builds are a large part of PvT you can't simply ignore them. by that definition every TvP on any map is imbalanced in favor of Terran then (imposing your "sustained no damage until late game" conditions). LOL a pvt going into standard mid-late/late game is NOTHING like saying zvt is imba with zerg getting 4+ gas. hahaha, on a balanced pvt map, pvt should be fair going into mid-late/late game without protoss doing any damage. seriously, your examples are awful man. if a zerg does 2 hatch build and does no damage, then it's the zerg player's fault. if the protoss and terran play standard going into the late game, and the game favors terran, then yeah, my point stands. why? because it would be fair on any other map. 2 hatch/zerg getting 4 gas has nothing to do with this because that solely depends on the players. if a P goes fast DT or DT drop and doesn't do damage and is behind going into late game don't blame it on a map "being so fucking imba" it boggles my mind that you'd stretch so far to make excuses for Jangbi getting owned
yeah but the fact that the protoss player is often forced to go dts/proxy/whatever basically summarizes my point. let's drop this and move on though.
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great gettign his 2nd expo
heh hyuk spots it
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