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Braavos36374 Posts
On December 20 2008 14:59 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2008 14:57 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:55 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:53 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:51 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:47 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:45 OneOther wrote:
That map is so fucking imba =/ But gotta give Fantasy for playing it perfectly Psh don't make excuses, Sin Chupung only has 3 games and it's 3-0 TvP, but Chupung is P>T (19-10) accourding to TLPD. Dunno what the changes are from regular Chupung to Sin, but i doubt it completely swung it imba in favor Terran. Fantasy played extremely well, Jangbi played average. That's what happens. On December 20 2008 14:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Sin Chupung-Ryeong
TvZ: 4-0 (100%)
PvT: 0-3 (0%) (0-4 after this game)
wonder when teams choose only Terran this map :D yes, your ginormous sample size of 3 games. look at the original chupung please chupung is awful pvt if you don't do some damage early game, or harassment. a lot of protoss players have done things like proxy to gain advantage, but i guess nothing went right for jangbi. if the game goes into midgame without toss doing any damage it gets really hard, as you saw. what other map can you do that shit as terran look at the stats, its 19-13 P>T shit's not imba jangbi lost because fantasy played better, don't make excuses because of the map fuck i never said fantasy didn't play well. but the only reason why he was able to camp and abuse emp like that was because of the map. jesus "that map is so fucking imba" is a completely inaccurate way to describe PvT on there there's on way it can be "so fucking imba" for TvP when it's 19-13 PVT IN FAVOR OF PROTOSS that's all i'm saying stop using chupung tlpd stats. a lot of pvts were won with proxy gate zeals, surprise dt drops, reaver, and other builds oriented that way. a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced. yes, jangbi failed to do damage with dts. yes, fantasy played it well. but that cannot be denied.
saying "a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced" is like me saying "a ZvT going into late game when the Zerg has 4+ gas is imbalanced"
you cant put preconditions on matchups, so what if PvTs were won with those builds? that has to be factored into the equation on the balance of the map, you can't just ignore all games except ones where terrans sustain no early/midgame damage and say "well THOSE are imba"
that's like a Z doing a 2 hatch build, doing no damage, then me saying well if a Zerg can't do early game damage with his 2 hatch, it's IMBA TVZ. doesn't make sense, threat and execution of those proxy / dt drops / reaver builds are a large part of PvT you can't simply ignore them. by that definition every TvP on any map is imbalanced in favor of Terran then (imposing your "sustained no damage until late game" conditions).
regardless, even if the map has tough terrain late game, if you consider all the ways P can win and hurt the Terran it's not "so fucking imbalanced"
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Spores should be coming up soon. Hyuk has 3 mutas or so ready. Two spores in main for Hades. I believe 2 as well at the nat.
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2 spores at main and 2 at natural for hades
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Puts up another creep colony. Hyuk looks to expand I believe.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Hyuk indeed will be expanding.
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wow great is JUST NOW GETTING HIS SPIRE
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On December 20 2008 14:59 OneOther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2008 14:57 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:55 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:53 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:51 OneOther wrote:On December 20 2008 14:47 wombo combo wrote:On December 20 2008 14:45 OneOther wrote:
That map is so fucking imba =/ But gotta give Fantasy for playing it perfectly Psh don't make excuses, Sin Chupung only has 3 games and it's 3-0 TvP, but Chupung is P>T (19-10) accourding to TLPD. Dunno what the changes are from regular Chupung to Sin, but i doubt it completely swung it imba in favor Terran. Fantasy played extremely well, Jangbi played average. That's what happens. On December 20 2008 14:46 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Sin Chupung-Ryeong
TvZ: 4-0 (100%)
PvT: 0-3 (0%) (0-4 after this game)
wonder when teams choose only Terran this map :D yes, your ginormous sample size of 3 games. look at the original chupung please chupung is awful pvt if you don't do some damage early game, or harassment. a lot of protoss players have done things like proxy to gain advantage, but i guess nothing went right for jangbi. if the game goes into midgame without toss doing any damage it gets really hard, as you saw. what other map can you do that shit as terran look at the stats, its 19-13 P>T shit's not imba jangbi lost because fantasy played better, don't make excuses because of the map fuck i never said fantasy didn't play well. but the only reason why he was able to camp and abuse emp like that was because of the map. jesus "that map is so fucking imba" is a completely inaccurate way to describe PvT on there there's on way it can be "so fucking imba" for TvP when it's 19-13 PVT IN FAVOR OF PROTOSS that's all i'm saying stop using chupung tlpd stats. a lot of pvts were won with proxy gate zeals, surprise dt drops, reaver, and other builds oriented that way. a pvt going into standard macro mid-late/late game is imbalanced. yes, jangbi failed to do damage with dts. yes, fantasy played it well. but that cannot be denied. and "that map is fucking imba" was probably an exaggeration but that game brings back horrible memories on that piece of shit map + blue storm. haha.
When you let your emotions get in the way of your arguments you can't expect no one to take a stand against what you say.
So just stop. In every thread I see with you go over the top and manage to piss everyone off, excluding those on your side.
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oshit.
hyuk might win a game?!
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On December 20 2008 15:04 sung_moon wrote:
wow great is JUST NOW GETTING HIS SPIRE
he took drones off gas after making his lair, and didn't get gas again until after putting down 3 spores.
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hades' spire is only halfway, he needs to deal muta with spore colony=/
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nice great denies hyuks expo and defends against muta/ling atk
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Hyuk picks off a spore colony. Ling backstab by Great forces a cancel of Hyuk's nat.
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hades forced hyuk to cancel his nat hatch
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Great is a badass. Not sure if he'll win though.
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If it was that imba, Samsung should be smart enough to send FBH or Frozean on it I guess. But yeah, it seems pretty balanced to me.
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hades/great's spire finished.muta attacking spore.
going for the spawning pool?
hades might attack hyuk's base with lings.
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no VLC stream? damnnn this daum sports is unwatchable 
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Great has no units. Spire is only halfway done. His ling count severely diminished as he lost quite a few of them in the last "battle".
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