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Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
May 28 2008 08:02 GMT
#421
Flash is cocky, so what. It's good, makes things interesting for him and for us. This whole "streak run" madness is totally useless and flash knows that. KTF trusts him, everyone knows he's the powerhouse today and he just looks how far he can go, nothing wrong there.

An epic clash between best and flash bo5 that would be something. We've seen that fans love them both (they were loud!) and we have even more fuel in the fire now thanks to that game.

Some of you take it way too serious and jump bandwagons all the time. Flash is a brilliant player with an immense mid to lategame play. Predictable? The only thing that is predictable is that a wolf will allways kill a sheep, that's the way it is, was and allways will be. People said the same thing about oov, savior and bisu. Why don't you just shut it and enjoy the games.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
May 28 2008 08:04 GMT
#422
> Bisu was never dominant. his OSL performance and proLeague performance consistently lagged far behind his MSL strength.
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
May 28 2008 08:46 GMT
#423
OMG. The Flash build that counter fast carriers lost to fast carriers. It wasn't a game, but a 1 sided destruction. I was shocked O.O. The crowd & announcers were going crazy after BeST won.
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
May 28 2008 08:51 GMT
#424
On May 28 2008 09:39 Sigrun wrote:
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On May 28 2008 07:31 disciple wrote:
no one is as cocky as jaedong, the "legend killer" even proxy hatched the emperor himself.


You're stupid, Boxer went 14 CC while Jaedong went 9 pool. The proxy Hatchery is a strategy on Katrina by Zerg to pressure Terran that wall-in on that map and play greedy.

Also, learn proper grammar please.


sorry for my grammar, and I'm not stupid, boxer was done and about to GG any sec, when jaedong made the hatch. jaedong himself said right after the game he was not right to put the hatch . And btw if you really wonna see how this strategy works watch oversky vs freedom
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 28 2008 08:59 GMT
#425
that wasnt the flash build as fasr as i know.. he put up 2 armory before second fac right?
hmm i just dont think the normal flash build = no scan and 12 tank before goliath.

seriously, he had like 3-4 goliaths when 4 carriers came out. it wasnt the flash build.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 28 2008 09:03 GMT
#426
On May 28 2008 17:46 [X]Ken_D wrote:
OMG. The Flash build that counter fast carriers lost to fast carriers. It wasn't a game, but a 1 sided destruction. I was shocked O.O. The crowd & announcers were going crazy after BeST won.

..So wrong. Flash's build was clearly not at all meant to handle carriers at that timing at all. When the 4 carriers arrived flash had five goliaths. 1 more than the number of carriers. He also had 12 or more tanks. Yet you think his build was designed to go anti carrier? No freaking way.

That being said flash was definitely overconfident in his ability to handle carriers. He turreted everywhere before adding facts instead of getting scan, so cleary he expected Best to do a very strong shuttle harass type of build (like I wrongly predicted him to do).

This game does not really say much about Best's overall ability to handle flash, because well flash ALMOST came back (those 3 storms ended this). I think if flash had made a few less turrets in favor an early acad the game wouldve been very very different (best's first carriers' ints getting raped by 14 or so gols while flash keeps his 6 or so tanks back safely out of sniping range).
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
May 28 2008 09:52 GMT
#427
I don't think Flash almost came back at all. Best build was prepared to counter the goliath & tank. A lot of protoss goes fast carriers and skimp on storm. That was brilliant choice in strategy by Best.

How much of a difference would Flash's early scouting do? He was commited anyways doing a 14 or whatever CC build!
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Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
May 28 2008 10:00 GMT
#428
Key part being "at that timing." If the terran does a more standard build, you get carriers that early, and he scans you, he will timing push you, and you will lose. Flash had late scan, his first scan was at the wrong base since Best moved in his first goons from the wrong angle, and that double armory build doesn't have a fast push anyway, as it gets early golies over vultures.

As for what to call that build, a "build" is imo not timing all buildings/units in an exact way, since against a real opponent, you normally has to adjust to him, even if just a little. I thought "flash build" meant earlier double factories and faster upgrades than most normal builds, and an heavier empathis on goliaths over vultures. His build was clearly that.
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