EPT
[ASL21] Semifinals B
| Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments |
Recommended Games + Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler [Game 1] + + Show Spoiler [Game 2] + + Show Spoiler [Game 3] + + Show Spoiler [Game 4] + + Show Spoiler [Game 5] + He's just way too good + Show Spoiler [Game 6] + This game is cooked + Show Spoiler [Game 7] + I can't even believe it | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
 | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
On May 12 2026 13:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: if you are running dual screens like me, I will be watching LOTR fellowship of the ring directors cut just to see if this series will run longer than the movie. lmao | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 13:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: if you are running dual screens like me, I will be watching LOTR fellowship of the ring directors cut just to see if this series will run longer than the movie. XD | ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 15:40 SCRVN wrote: FlaSh will not lose to soma, so he is going to lose today. Is Soma worse than Jaedong at ZvT? Because Jaedong stomped Flash. | ||
|
karbonara234
52 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 13:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: if you are running dual screens like me, I will be watching LOTR fellowship of the ring directors cut just to see if this series will run longer than the movie. Maybe the whole trilogy! | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is Soma worse than Jaedong at ZvT? Because Jaedong stomped Flash. 1 game is different than a Bo7... Not to say JD would lose to Flash in a series either tho | ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
my other option is to see how many episodes of DS9 I can go through but having never seen DS9 before I don't want to have any distractions. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Sigh. I wish I lived closer to Korean time | ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
This TvT is different, obviously Flash is exciting to watch full stop. I love how hard his final path might be. Sn0w, Light, Soma .... These are the best players of each race not named Flash. That is an amazing final starleague road. At the same time, Light is one of the best Terran players of the modern era and possibly the best terran of the right now. If Flash is truly experiencing the pain and discomfort per game as I have been led to believe, then I think Light may have a few advantages. One, Can he push Flash past his physical limitations and exhaust and inhibit him. If the option to split a map becomes Lights, will he fight to have an hour long battle right off the bat? Two, Flash may feel the need to rely on exact timing pushes and aggro plays, while cutting corners, like vs Sn0w, if so can Light read that and use that to his advantage. Three, Light has way more to prove then Flash, Nothing would mean more to a terran player then to defeat Flash right here and right now. Flash has been winning tv matches since he was high school aged, he will always come ready to play an impressive match, the question is not will Flash play good, the question is can he be defeated while playing so good. I do not know. Light used highly technical builds, and thought-out timings, phases and endings for his match vs JD. I expect the same level of care put into his early-middlegame positions here. Flash has probably been rolling dice on his number of CC first games or something. I am excited. If Light wins I will be very proud of him. If Flash wins, we get to see The All Time Champion vs The Champion of Now. People writing Flash off vs Soma are Wild. Wild. Never write off Flash in a match. He's insane. | ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
On May 12 2026 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is Soma worse than Jaedong at ZvT? Because Jaedong stomped Flash. Actually, FlaSh doesn't want to lose by soma. He doesn't want to make his fan disappoint, so he will lose today. | ||
|
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1266 Posts
On May 12 2026 15:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is Soma worse than Jaedong at ZvT? Because Jaedong stomped Flash. SoMa is the best ZvT and ZvP player at this point in time. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22447 Posts
On May 12 2026 13:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: Harsh but fair.if you are running dual screens like me, I will be watching LOTR fellowship of the ring directors cut just to see if this series will run longer than the movie. I went with Flash for my liquibet, how could I not. But the more I think about this match the more I think Light will take it in the end. And Flash losing a bo1 against JD stubbornly going a build he knew had issues says little about his chances against Soma. | ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
 LR a bit if you want... | ||
|
SHODAN
United Kingdom1159 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
I realize Light has won an ASL and KSL but in my mind he's still a bit of a choker  What are we watching boys? English cast or Korean? I like SaiyanSC but... he seems to still be building up his casting skills. KCM is one thing, ASL another. I wsh Tastosis casted live. | ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On May 12 2026 17:05 Peeano wrote: Light's chance to finally get a proper gold will continue or end today. He won ASL 13 according to liquipedia 🏆 | ||
|
Zergxhx
China210 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
Light loses a bunch of expo scv Flash has significant advantage and is killing barracks that landed in map | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4427 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Flash!!!! | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:12 Vasoline73 wrote: Heart and head say Flash. I realize Light has won an ASL and KSL but in my mind he's still a bit of a choker What are we watching boys? English cast or Korean? I like SaiyanSC but... he seems to still be building up his casting skills. KCM is one thing, ASL another. I wsh Tastosis casted live. Official Korean all the way. I've both played and watched enough BW for a lifetime already, so I don't need a English caster telling me what's going on... That said I wouldn't mind to watch Nyoken solo cast live instead. | ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
how is he able to innovate and do new and unusual stuff in several matchups? what was everyone else doing all the years before???? right after Light gg'ed Flash could be seen in the players cam fixing his zipper fly... what did he mean by this... | ||
|
mutantmagnet
United States3805 Posts
(Flash ends game 1 in 17.) Thank you for respecting my time Flash. | ||
|
Zergxhx
China210 Posts
| ||
|
felleN
Australia95 Posts
| ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
I don't remember Flash knocking people out so fast. After his initial first few games as a pro that is. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Zariel
Australia1312 Posts
That was razor thin margin of victory - calculated to perfection. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22447 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:31 AttackZerg wrote: I think its mainly his hands. He doesn't want to risk long drawn out matches that needlessly hurt his hands so he goes right for the jugular every time.Flash is so decisive these days. I don't remember Flash knocking people out so fast. After his initial first few games as a pro that is. | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:31 mutantmagnet wrote: (thinks games will be 30 minutes on average) (Flash ends game 1 in 17.) Thank you for respecting my time Flash. Imagine if this Bo7 takes under 2 hours! | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 13:12 BLinD-RawR wrote: if you are running dual screens like me, I will be watching LOTR fellowship of the ring directors cut just to see if this series will run longer than the movie. I’m going to be disappointed if you don’t finish DS9’season 1 here… | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
| ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:33 Gorsameth wrote: I think its mainly his hands. He doesn't want to risk long drawn out matches that needlessly hurt his hands so he goes right for the jugular every time. Seems like it. But the fact that he can just decide on new timings and play like this, is as insane as Macro Flash was. He is beyond craft. | ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:36 AttackZerg wrote: He is beyond craft. Exactly, it's art. He's experiencing StarArt, while everyone else is still playing StarCraft. Okay, I took it too far lol. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Poll: Are you watching the Korean or English cast? Korean (21) English (9) 30 total votes Your vote: Are you watching the Korean or English cast? | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Flash in top right Light bottom right | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
least "neutral and natural" wrist position I've ever seen | ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
| ||
|
mutantmagnet
United States3805 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Vult runby with mines + double starport… | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
 ( | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
True_Spike
Poland3434 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
2-0 | ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines634 Posts
flash making tvt look like zvz lmao | ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22447 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1266 Posts
In a way it is bad luck, in a way it is brilliant BO selection from FlaSh. | ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
Flash is making him look easy. | ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
| ||
|
mutantmagnet
United States3805 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Imagine if this Bo7 takes under 2 hours! Time to start placing bets on this? Poll please. | ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:48 gravity wrote: Quick GG and Light wasn't *that* far behind in supply, but didn't seem to have many units. I guess Flash cut SCVs? Even if Light "stabilizes" Flash would completely choke him out from that position onwards. | ||
|
Sorusaba
310 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines634 Posts
| ||
|
a-game
Canada5214 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Flash on the left. | ||
|
karbonara234
52 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:39 Vasoline73 wrote: Poll: Are you watching the Korean or English cast? Korean (21) English (9) 30 total votes Your vote: Are you watching the Korean or English cast? I'm watching Best's highlights/summary of the matches on youtube. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:51 karbonara234 wrote: I'm watching Best's highlights/summary of the matches on youtube. Can you understand his commentary? If I understood Korean I’d definitely watch his stream… | ||
|
Zariel
Australia1312 Posts
If you think about it, if Light had the extra tank that was lost to the mines right outside the factory, would it have been enough? | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Flash with 12 rax in base | ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
karbonara234
52 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:52 Vasoline73 wrote: Can you understand his commentary? If I understood Korean I’d definitely watch his stream… no. but I've watched enough matches to understand what's going on. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:54 karbonara234 wrote: no. but I've watched enough matches to understand what's going on. Nice. I am just watching the regular KR stream… | ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22447 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:51 a-game wrote: Flash hasn't given him a chance to stall out sofarLight should be dragging it out as much as possible to fatigue Flash but maybe he's too much of a gentleman | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:56 gravity wrote: What was the reason for the neutral marine/medic on this map? I think it's to partially block the ramps, to make it temporarily more difficult to run up into your opponent's base super early in the game? | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
light is already fucked | ||
|
mutantmagnet
United States3805 Posts
Yikes. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Toshinou-Kyouko
Philippines634 Posts
| ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:56 gravity wrote: What was the reason for the neutral marine/medic on this map? It took about 30 years to people admit Terran can't win with steal gas in TvP. | ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Flash has a valk out… Still holding the highground lol | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:02 Kraekkling wrote: 3-0 inc light actually manages to take the highground at his 4th, this might become a long game | ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:04 Kraekkling wrote: light actually manages to take the highground at his 4th, this might become a long game NVM 3-0 | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
| ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:04 Kraekkling wrote: light actually manages to take the highground at his 4th, this might become a long game I think Light was aware of Flash's decent supply lead. | ||
|
karbonara234
52 Posts
| ||
|
mutantmagnet
United States3805 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1266 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I know you're reading this, Qikz | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:01 SCRVN wrote: It took about 30 years to people admit Terran can't win with steal gas in TvP. Makes sense if it's to prevent that, given it's a 2p map. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
SkelA
Macedonia13081 Posts
| ||
|
QRCode
United States62 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:07 SkelA wrote: Man light shoulda just lost to JD. Not even close to take a game of Flash. Agreed… it’s a shame | ||
|
a-game
Canada5214 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:07 SkelA wrote: Man light shoulda just lost to JD. Not even close to take a game of Flash. Ya that's annoying Anyways at least these matches are more entertaining and brief than TvT usually is | ||
|
fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4105 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
"omg how can he be so good" | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:07 SkelA wrote: Man light shoulda just lost to JD. Not even close to take a game of Flash. Totally agree. | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:09 Vasoline73 wrote: Skyhigh shoutout with this music. What happened to Skyhigh? GOM TV SL2 terran hope… very good call Vasoline! i was thinking at him this morning  he was very strong at tvt... he could gave Flash a run for his money | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4105 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:11 prosatan wrote: very good call Vasoline! i was thinking at him this morning he was very strong at tvt... he could gave Flash a run for his money Lol the song that was playing kept saying “I’m feeling skyhigh”… he was an entertaining player and had his moments in the Kespa era! He was the last terran hope in the GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2 . 6 Dragons era… 2008/09 GOMTV Avaratec-Intel Classic Season 2 | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + game3: + Show Spoiler + on flash youtube this time | ||
|
angry_maia
331 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
GAME 4 STARTING!!! | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Light at bottom left | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
hasuprotoss
United States4664 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:19 Vasoline73 wrote: Light really should center BBS tho I CALLED THAT SHIT!!!! Wtfff Flash 13CC. SO OBVIOUS! I should win the asl | ||
|
Zergxhx
China210 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:17 Vasoline73 wrote: Come on Light! BBS and make it a series! Called this damnit lol | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
come on Light, 1 game ! | ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
Flash turns everything into an edge. And this game, he has a bloodless edge. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:17 prosatan wrote: game 2: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ZrfOJT5q8 game3: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=halGVI6hY4A on flash youtube this time Thanks for these! | ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:25 Vasoline73 wrote: ahead in supply not for long! | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
hasuprotoss
United States4664 Posts
| ||
|
angry_maia
331 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
| ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Gorsameth
Netherlands22447 Posts
The only The undisputed GOAT. | ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
hasuprotoss
United States4664 Posts
| ||
|
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
| ||
|
karbonara234
52 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Light should have BBSd that 4th game. I called that. Last time I’ll say it but come on Light… do something! Flash complete domination. Soma VS Flash is going to be SICKKKKK | ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
| ||
|
QRCode
United States62 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Terrorbladder
2750 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:17 prosatan wrote: How does God have time to upload the games immediately after he just played? game 2: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ZrfOJT5q8 game3: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=halGVI6hY4A on flash youtube this time | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
alypse
2784 Posts
| ||
Poopi
France12977 Posts
How did Light win an ASL | ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
i think is 60-40 or 55-45 for him... but not more.... | ||
|
Zografa
291 Posts
| ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:32 Terrorbladder wrote: Wow, God is overwhelming Light with multitasking here. I noticed Light was struggling with multitasking against Jaedong, but he really paid for that here. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:35 Poopi wrote: Do ASL without Flash even count? That was brutal How did Light win an ASL Beating Rain in similar fashion as he just got beaten. | ||
|
mutantmagnet
United States3805 Posts
 | ||
|
Sorusaba
310 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:36 prosatan wrote: is flash favored 100% in the match vs soma ?? i think is 60-40 or 55-45 for him... but not more.... Jaedong was able to beat Flash in their single game, and Soma's ZvT is probably better than Jaedong's right now, so Flash definitely can't be 100% favored, though maybe Flash is still slightly/mostly favored anyway. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
Poll: Recommend Light vs Flash Game 5? Yes (8) If you have time (7) No (1) 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Flash Game 5? Poll: Recommend Light vs Flash Game 6? Yes (12) If you have time (3) No (1) 16 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Flash Game 6? Poll: Recommend Light vs Flash Game 7? Yes (13) If you have time (4) No (2) 19 total votes Your vote: Recommend Light vs Flash Game 7? | ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
I am not only convinced that this is infact near peak Flash level now, I'm wondering, if this is actual peak. Just a wonderful thing to have gotten to watch this dude play. Most dominant match of this ASL by far. | ||
|
okum
France5779 Posts
| ||
|
DarkPlasmaBall
United States46178 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Jaedong was able to beat Flash in their single game, and Soma's ZvT is probably better than Jaedong's right now, so Flash definitely can't be 100% favored, though maybe Flash is still slightly/mostly favored anyway. agree DPB ! soma has better zvt than my baby for sure... maybe it will be 4-2 for flash idk my LB will be on him tho and we need a 7 points bet !! | ||
|
PachiBW
17 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:38 okum wrote: Did Flash just play a PvT but with goliaths instead of dragoons in game 1? Yes, but he got the minesweeper upgrade most P cut corners on. | ||
|
QRCode
United States62 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:20 Zergxhx wrote: So it turns out that yesterday wasn't the match with the biggest gap in the semifinals You took an old pro to school; I took one of the top 5 ASL era players to school. | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
Kraekkling
724 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 12 2026 19:29 Peeano wrote: Official Korean all the way. I've both played and watched enough BW for a lifetime already, so I don't need a English caster telling me what's going on... That said I wouldn't mind to watch Nyoken solo cast live instead. Cheers!!!!!! I'm so glad I switched after game 2. For the entire Kespa era I watched KR... so it's great to listen to... I prefer it as well unless it's extremely entertaining like Tastosis or very informative like Nyoken or Scan... cheers... Wow Flash crushed it | ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
Jaedongs micro and aggression. Soulkey and Efforts wonderfully thought out transitions to mid/lategame. And he is an innovator strategically as well. He has the best game sense of any zerg right now, with the strongest mutas, only jaedongs lings seem to be microed better. He is the most perfect Zerg we have had up until now, and is a fine and fitting representative of the swarm against Flash. Will Soma prove himself legendary beyond doubt or will Flash get his fifth star? I think every result possible is possible with these two. What an amazing way to end ASL. Fk ya! | ||
|
Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines733 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/Manifesto7/ShinHan3OSLQuarters/nadaibelievelc4.gif) | ||
|
gravity
Australia2198 Posts
| ||
|
felleN
Australia95 Posts
| ||
|
PachiBW
17 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:44 Vasoline73 wrote: Cheers!!!!!! I'm so glad I switched after game 2. For the entire Kespa era I watched KR... so it's great to listen to... I prefer it as well unless it's extremely entertaining like Tastosis or very informative like Nyoken or Scan... cheers... Wow Flash crushed it I watch the Korean stream and cover up the supply indicator. Too many English commentators reference the supply and 95% of games' outcomes can be predicted by it. I prefer the suspense of not knowing who is leading because it makes things more exciting and feels like I'm watching broodwar from decades past. I watch Tastosis and whatever jinjin graciously provides translations for after the fact for analysis. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Interviewer: Let’s meet the player Flash, who has made it to the finals with a brilliant performance on stage. Congratulations! Flash: Thank you. Interviewer: You showed a flawless 4-0 performance and advanced to the finals. It feels like calling you the best Terran of this season is not enough; you showed the strongest Terran form. How do you feel right now? Flash: I thought it wouldn’t be easy, but I won more easily than expected, so I’m really happy. I feel like I’m regaining my old form step by step. Compared to my past form, I think I’m over 90% back. In the finals, I’ll be at 100% and beat Soma Interviewer: When it was decided you’d face Light, you said he’s like a machine, so you’d have to push with tempo. And just as you said, in all four sets, you dominated with speed. Did things go exactly as you prepared? Flash: Yes, everything fell into place. I focused on optimization, and I believed I was better at optimizing. I thought if I pushed early, I’d create a gap. I prepared to be aggressive early, and if it didn’t work, I’d defend. But today, my hands were in great shape, so I didn’t feel like I’d lose. Interviewer: From the first set, your aggressive mindset was clear. Even when his siege tanks were in place, you went in. Did you decide you could break through, or was it a let’s try it mentality? Flash: The situation was good, so even if blocked, I could handle it. I went in confident I could break through, and it worked out. Interviewer: Now I wonder how Soma feels facing you at 100% in the finals. How do you feel facing him in the finals? Flash: In this season, I faced tough opponents: Bisu, Jaedong, Snow, Light. If I beat Soma, it’s a perfect story - coming back after 6 years. I’m happy about how it turned out. It’s not easy, I still question whether I’m really back or not.. After 6 years, I’m here to prove myself and win. Interviewer: For fans, the excitement of a 5th championship is high. Since you said you’re nearly at peak form, we’re all excited. Any words for fans and colleagues? Flash: Thanks to my friends who came to support me. Bo-sung (Sea?) always supports my games, so thanks to him. Thanks to Yeong-jin (Rush?), Gyu-hyung (Barracks?), and Mong for practice. Thanks to Cheol-gu (Terror) at home. I’ll win the finals and shout out again. To fans: it wasn’t easy, but I made it to the finals. I wanted to prove myself. Thanks to your support, I’ll try my best. The reigning champion Soma—I’ll reclaim the crown that was mine. | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Also makes me sad Effort didn't participate. If this really is Flash's last ASL, we'll always have to wonder "what if" Flash did SO well. And last time I'll mention it but I called that Light should have BBS'd game 4... stuff like that really makes me smh, gotta have a tough mindset if you are going to contend Light! . GGs | ||
|
Gippy
40 Posts
| ||
|
Soulforged
Latvia974 Posts
What Flash does that is a bit different lately is completely cutting gas mining, not leaving one on gas, and other small switches. For game 1, I guess you could assume that the optimization end goal was hitting 5 vultures reaching close-location natural by 5:15 (while obviously not delaying CC and maximizing SCV count within the goal scope) I'm not a TvT expert so I can't tell if Flash cut any corners that would get him killed by a dedicated rush, though. That said, Flash is OCD enough to have a different optimization plan for each individual spawn location on each map, due to mining speed differences. | ||
|
Jimes1
1 Post
| ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19368 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:38 okum wrote: Did Flash just play a PvT but with goliaths instead of dragoons in game 1? I said this exact same thing in my head. He wanted to prove P > T while still using his main. | ||
|
Qikz
United Kingdom12042 Posts
Literally every single engagement and moment FlaSh was ahead, god damn. I almost hate how good FlaSh is, but it makes me appreciate the old days when FanTaSy finally started to get the upper hand against FlaSh in TvT even more since it just goes to show how good both players were back then. I want to believe Soma has a chance, but honestly FlaSh seems to be on god mode again and I think if he plays as insanely well in the finals as he did today against Light then I don't think there's any chance. I want there to be though! I just hope it's a good finals series. I almost feel like Leta would've done better against the FlaSh we saw today which is crazy to think, but Light tried playing it very standard and got wrecked lol On May 12 2026 20:07 Peeano wrote: Fantasy needs to come out of retirement and show Light the power of D-Matrix. + Show Spoiler + I know you're reading this, Qikz I found this looking back through the thread lol | ||
|
maybe
260 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:54 prosatan wrote: game 4: + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JldX5H97Rk0 The autodub sounds so weird :D | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:46 Crimson)S(hadow wrote: Idk about flash doing that badge gesture, last time nada did that he lost to a zerg in the finals ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/ANS3QSV.gif) | ||
|
tankgirl
Canada475 Posts
just flash being flash welcome back, god young ho. | ||
|
VioleTAK
4408 Posts
| ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
| ||
nimdil
Poland3767 Posts
Quote source: + Show Spoiler + | ||
|
FlaShFTW
United States10500 Posts
| ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13427 Posts
His macro vs Snow last week and Light this week was almost not human. He was constantly like 20-50 supply up even when taking suboptimal engagements. | ||
|
RowdierBob
Australia13427 Posts
| ||
|
TonDan04
51 Posts
| ||
|
Lazyer
United States388 Posts
| ||
|
QRCode
United States62 Posts
On May 13 2026 05:52 RowdierBob wrote: It’s a shame this ASL will be the end of Flash. When he’s around he kinda forces everyone to be better if they want to match his level. When he’s not playing the other pros get sucked into a malaise of good but not great. I am convinced that Flash is behind the recent surge in meta play. He seems to have boiled the game down to a science and has imparted his ways of thinking to other players, especially the Protoss, and now you see them playing a slow and deliberate style like Terran. One of the basic principles seems to be playing around your range for map control. So Protoss have adopted this against Zerg by massing Dragoons and sitting back with storms. | ||
|
Simplistik
2143 Posts
| ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
Also the belt thing after every game is ridiculous lol... | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
| ||
|
Urth
United States1256 Posts
| ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
On May 13 2026 15:56 Vasoline73 wrote: I thought people were exaggerating about Flash's wrist posture but watching the VOD, holy crap his left wrist is bent the entire time. IMO (complete speculation) it is like he is playing without worrying about posture anymore since he knows this may be his last ASL... Also the belt thing after every game is ridiculous lol... Maybe instead of a golen ruler, ASL can give Flash a golden button or golden belt buckle. | ||
|
Kaal
Djibouti2570 Posts
On May 13 2026 17:23 Peeano wrote: Maybe instead of a golen ruler, ASL can give Flash a golden button or golden belt buckle. need to give his ass a golden arm so he can continue to play. | ||
|
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1266 Posts
On May 13 2026 07:29 TonDan04 wrote: Light's TvT is usually really predictable, he does a lot of transition into double port wraiths mid game and is by the book in his style. I can see why Flash was able to exploit this. Also, if you've seen Light's games you know he's actually one of the slower Terrans, at least against Terrans and Protoss opponents. Alot of the replays I've seen of his he hovers around 250 alot. Light is by no means slow though. he has moments where he goes lower, but averages 290-330 with almost no excess inputs. He generally has the crispest timings vs P and Z. TvT is his worst but usually not this lopsided even vs FlaSh. He got outbuild ordered by FlaSh quite hard every game because light went pure standard. | ||
|
Soulforged
Latvia974 Posts
Best kind of started mixing up his play significantly more after getting demolished by Mini in a PvP series due to being so predictable. That felt like a turning point (not that he really saw more success overall since, just you can see he plays longer series with more variety now). Wonder where Light will take his play from here. | ||
|
prosatan
Romania8931 Posts
On May 13 2026 15:56 Vasoline73 wrote: I thought people were exaggerating about Flash's wrist posture but watching the VOD, holy crap his left wrist is bent the entire time. IMO (complete speculation) it is like he is playing without worrying about posture anymore since he knows this may be his last ASL... Also the belt thing after every game is ridiculous lol...  Flash | ||
|
TonDan04
51 Posts
On May 13 2026 17:50 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: Light is by no means slow though. he has moments where he goes lower, but averages 290-330 with almost no excess inputs. He generally has the crispest timings vs P and Z. TvT is his worst but usually not this lopsided even vs FlaSh. He got outbuild ordered by FlaSh quite hard every game because light went pure standard. Watch any of his tvp or tvt, he's hovering around 250 alot of the times but rises to 300 occasionally. Then watch many of the other terrans like Flash, Barracks, they're never below 300. Im not saying it's. Huge difference, who knows, but he is noticeably slower and you can see how that translates to Flash being able to multitask better in this series. | ||
|
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Netherlands1266 Posts
On May 13 2026 20:04 TonDan04 wrote: Watch any of his tvp or tvt, he's hovering around 250 alot of the times but rises to 300 occasionally. Then watch many of the other terrans like Flash, Barracks, they're never below 300. Im not saying it's. Huge difference, who knows, but he is noticeably slower and you can see how that translates to Flash being able to multitask better in this series. It is most noticable with Speed. Speed has become the best performing online Terran behind Flash and Light purely because he is by far the fastest terran who can actually put that APM to effective use with Multitasking. Speed generally wins TVP vs Mini, Best, Bisu, and does well enough vs SnOw. His TvZ also generally wins vs everyone but SoMa. Most of his games are Chinese spons or Chinese/starcast spons so they dont always appear on Eloboard. | ||
|
Postalpj
15 Posts
On May 13 2026 01:25 BisuDagger wrote: I said this exact same thing in my head. He wanted to prove P > T while still using his main. If only dragoons were as good as goliaths vs mines. Protoss really got shafted by having the slowest moving ranged attacks. Mines are really good, but z and t can a move through a minefield and have a decent chance of blasting them as they pop up. | ||
|
Kau
Canada3502 Posts
| ||
Last Romantic
United States20665 Posts
| ||
|
KobraKay
Portugal4353 Posts
| ||
|
M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
| ||
|
M3t4PhYzX
Poland4267 Posts
Still gonna watch the final but.. yeah. big meh | ||
|
Malinor
Germany4754 Posts
Light was basically behind in every second of every game. Reminds me of the Light I know from the past. Always good, never good enough to win anything and choking games away. Well, he got an ASL at last. Flash is probably too good for Soma, but Soma's play has also looked really dominant, so he should have a shot. I think it is 70:30. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
Absolute night and day. Edit: I meant MVP. Flash lost a Bo3 to him, did he not? Maybe that was already in the transition period where they forced them to play SC2 in Proleague? Anyway, that was an ugly loss but I remember SC2 fans saying it was just MVP being so good lmao | ||
|
Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
| ||
|
Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:44 AttackZerg wrote: Soma has all the best features from all of our best zergs. Jaedongs micro and aggression. Soulkey and Efforts wonderfully thought out transitions to mid/lategame. And he is an innovator strategically as well. He has the best game sense of any zerg right now, with the strongest mutas, only jaedongs lings seem to be microed better. He is the most perfect Zerg we have had up until now, and is a fine and fitting representative of the swarm against Flash. Will Soma prove himself legendary beyond doubt or will Flash get his fifth star? I think every result possible is possible with these two. What an amazing way to end ASL. Fk ya! I still think Soulkey’s overall play is stronger as Soma has times where he is too aggressive and cheesy without any backup plan. But that is also Soma’s strength due to the unpredictability of his play. Really excited to see the finals. | ||
|
Highways
Australia6119 Posts
| ||
|
Miragee
8678 Posts
On May 14 2026 06:20 Peeano wrote: Real talk though: This Flash beating Light and the Flash losing to what's his name, that became a successful SC2 player. Absolute night and day. Edit: I meant MVP. Flash lost a Bo3 to him, did he not? Maybe that was already in the transition period where they forced them to play SC2 in Proleague? Anyway, that was an ugly loss but I remember SC2 fans saying it was just MVP being so good lmao Flash had a period of weakness in TvT in the final years of Kespa. I don't remember what year it was exactly but it was at the time when he got knocked out by Classic and Ssak. This match against Light was indeed absolute night and day, just impressive. | ||
|
byj
526 Posts
| ||
|
Nirli
Bulgaria387 Posts
| ||
|
Artas1984
149 Posts
Anyway, i had to say it somewhere: it an ATROCITY that they promote a Razer product with Faker, and not Flash. It's an insult to all who watch ASL. Seriously, Razer retards could not have thought of using Flash himself to promote Razer stuff, they had to use Faker from another game, which most of us SC fans give a dogshit about? Waaau... New lows for me. Another thing: the intro music is horrible and generally that stuff has been for a long time in ASL now... I remember when back at ASL1 they used to play the blues man... Don't they realize that most people who watch ASL are over 30 by far? Why are they using these annoying girl teen music vibes... At least i've heard some Vivaldi mix, so that's something. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
KobraKay
Portugal4353 Posts
On May 14 2026 23:39 Artas1984 wrote: Don't know what's about to happen, have not watched the chat, just about to watch this series, but the fact of the video is only 1:45 long means it is one sided... And here i was expecting a 4 hour long battle-fest TvT. Anyway, i had to say it somewhere: it an ATROCITY that they promote a Razer product with Faker, and not Flash. It's an insult to all who watch ASL. Seriously, Razer retards could not have thought of using Flash himself to promote Razer stuff, they had to use Faker from another game, which most of us SC fans give a dogshit about? Waaau... New lows for me. Another thing: the intro music is horrible and generally that stuff has been for a long time in ASL now... I remember when back at ASL1 they used to play the blues man... Don't they realize that most people who watch ASL are over 30 by far? Why are they using these annoying girl teen music vibes... At least i've heard some Vivaldi mix, so that's something. As you might imagine, that promo vídeo is probably also used elsewhere. The fact that you know its faker and most people know him is the reason why you can have him promote your product even in different games. | ||
|
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium7003 Posts
On May 14 2026 23:39 Artas1984 wrote: Don't know what's about to happen, have not watched the chat, just about to watch this series, but the fact of the video is only 1:45 long means it is one sided... And here i was expecting a 4 hour long battle-fest TvT. Anyway, i had to say it somewhere: it an ATROCITY that they promote a Razer product with Faker, and not Flash. It's an insult to all who watch ASL. Seriously, Razer retards could not have thought of using Flash himself to promote Razer stuff, they had to use Faker from another game, which most of us SC fans give a dogshit about? Waaau... New lows for me. Another thing: the intro music is horrible and generally that stuff has been for a long time in ASL now... I remember when back at ASL1 they used to play the blues man... Don't they realize that most people who watch ASL are over 30 by far? Why are they using these annoying girl teen music vibes... At least i've heard some Vivaldi mix, so that's something. Broski what world you living in tbh. First of all razer using faker make the most sense from any marketing standpoint. Brand standpoint. Faker is actually the most famous esports player in the world by far. And the most crazy part of it is that he uses mouse and keyboard from the razer brand. Now lets go with Flash. Keyboard: Qsend DT-35 Mouse : WL Beast. At some point in Flash SC2 career KT Rolster was sponsored by razer so from a nostalgic moment i guess FlaSh could make a point for being in the AD. Now the biggest and absolute shit razer can do from a brand standpoint is using FlaSh when no long ago he was involved in the crypto scandal and almost ruined his career and his perfect reputation took the biggest hit ever to the point they call him these days Coinwa. And Koreans actually take image really serious when it comes to sponsorships and stuff like that. In fact is almost a miracle FlaSh wasnt ban from ASL. And the most important. just fck off and be grateful ASL is getting some sponsors.. Me personally i freaking hate razer and their shitty mouses. I got an abyssus for 50 euros that lasted 3 months and since then i black listed their products when it comes to keyboard/mouses. That said their mousepad goliathus speed is actually godlike. | ||
|
Peeano
Netherlands5634 Posts
| ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France8123 Posts
On May 14 2026 01:30 Last Romantic wrote: Looked like a GM playing Stockfish over there. Looking forward to the finals. Had the same thought. It didn’t look Light did anything wrong at all, just that he was playing an inhumanly strong opponent. Absolute massacre. | ||
|
Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On May 14 2026 23:39 Artas1984 wrote: Don't know what's about to happen, have not watched the chat, just about to watch this series, but the fact of the video is only 1:45 long means it is one sided... And here i was expecting a 4 hour long battle-fest TvT. Anyway, i had to say it somewhere: it an ATROCITY that they promote a Razer product with Faker, and not Flash. It's an insult to all who watch ASL. Seriously, Razer retards could not have thought of using Flash himself to promote Razer stuff, they had to use Faker from another game, which most of us SC fans give a dogshit about? Waaau... New lows for me. Another thing: the intro music is horrible and generally that stuff has been for a long time in ASL now... I remember when back at ASL1 they used to play the blues man... Don't they realize that most people who watch ASL are over 30 by far? Why are they using these annoying girl teen music vibes... At least i've heard some Vivaldi mix, so that's something. I haven't checked, but if it's an English song it's almost assuredly AI at this point, which means they don't have to pay to use it. | ||
|
AttackZerg
United States7579 Posts
On May 14 2026 13:09 Dante08 wrote: I still think Soulkey’s overall play is stronger as Soma has times where he is too aggressive and cheesy without any backup plan. But that is also Soma’s strength due to the unpredictability of his play. Really excited to see the finals. I think aspect of Soulkeys complete game make him a one of a kind player. He can make nearly any situation look like a smooth streamlined response and I am a big fan. But, Soma is much better at fighting mid-game armies and his judgement in those situations is legendary and decisive. I would love to be proven wrong by Soulkey getting top4 next season, but right now Soma is the last Zerg standing for a reason, second season in a row. I cannot wait for the finals, the meta may shift, Flash has a ton of inertia after this match. | ||
|
polgas
Canada1784 Posts
| ||
|
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9174 Posts
| ||
|
NoS-Craig
Australia3146 Posts
| ||
|
Zapperkhan
United States437 Posts
| ||
|
VioleTAK
4408 Posts
On May 15 2026 21:43 Zapperkhan wrote: This series brought this account out of retirement. Holy shit. As well it should have! Welcome back | ||
|
VioleTAK
4408 Posts
Light played incredibly well imo. It really shows how much mystery and depth still exist in the BW scene. It reminds me a lot of chess, where the same 20 elite players keep getting invited to every major tournament, and watching them face off never gets old. The GMs are amazing, but even they cannot compete with the super GMs by any messure. And then there is Magnus at the very top, where even the number 2 and number 3 players in the world cannot really touch him. No matter who officially holds the world championship, everyone knows Magnus is still on another level. BW feels exactly like that... The top pros already seem untouchable, and yet Flash still looks significantly ahead of everyone else. BW is one of the few esports that has produced true masters of the craft. And in BW the skill ceiling still feels unexplored after decades. In many sports dominant strategies eventually compress the gap between players. But in BW, mechanics, multitasking, decision timing, mind games, map understanding, psychological endurance and more, all stack together in a way that keeps producing these almost mythic skill differences. BW is so beautiful! | ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France8123 Posts
| ||
|
TornadoSteve
1116 Posts
| ||
|
ThunderJunk
United States739 Posts
I feel like Flash didn't just prove himself. He educated me on the nature of life and existence. What a sublime showing. That said, I could feel my own wrists getting carpal tunnel just watching the way Flash positions his left hand on the keyboard. I can see why he's complained of wrist issues - he wasn't faking that to dodge anyone, that's for sure. | ||
|
polgas
Canada1784 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Wi6iCxx.gif) | ||
|
Barneyk
Sweden317 Posts
Just complete and utter control from start to finish. Even when Light had a decent build order it didn't matter, Flash was in control. | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1717 Posts
| ||
|
Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
On May 15 2026 09:26 AttackZerg wrote: I think aspect of Soulkeys complete game make him a one of a kind player. He can make nearly any situation look like a smooth streamlined response and I am a big fan. But, Soma is much better at fighting mid-game armies and his judgement in those situations is legendary and decisive. I would love to be proven wrong by Soulkey getting top4 next season, but right now Soma is the last Zerg standing for a reason, second season in a row. I cannot wait for the finals, the meta may shift, Flash has a ton of inertia after this match. Not sure if you forgotten that Soulkey won 4 ASLs in a row. Overall he’s still the stronger Zerg just that Soma may be more on form now. Also not to take away from Soma’s skill but he did have a much easier path to the finals this time around. | ||
|
johanes
Czech Republic2246 Posts
On May 16 2026 06:12 ThunderJunk wrote: Yeah, I have to admit that despite 8 years of following the Korean scene I was still among the doubters that thought the skill level must have increased over the last 5 years and that Flash was going to struggle to return to dominance - but this series showed me that while game understanding might have increased across the board, tightening what mapmakers are allowed to do, class is timeless - and truly great players will always find a way to rise to the top. I feel like Flash didn't just prove himself. He educated me on the nature of life and existence. What a sublime showing. That said, I could feel my own wrists getting carpal tunnel just watching the way Flash positions his left hand on the keyboard. I can see why he's complained of wrist issues - he wasn't faking that to dodge anyone, that's for sure. I don't believe the current level of StarCraft play comes close to the KESPA era. The environment was fundamentally different back then: players lived together in team houses, ate and slept beside each other, and treated SC as the central focus of their lives. The training regimes were brutal. That intensity produced an extraordinarily high level of play that was lost afterward and has never been matched since. Today's scene is more relaxed and streaming-focused. The games are entertaining and fresh strategies keep emerging. But the overall level, especially at the very top, falls short of the peak the game once reached. Flash has the unique ability to keep the focus and use his training time super-effectively even without the Kespa environment. Were it not for his health issues, he would dominate the last years harder than ever before. | ||
|
Uldridge
Belgium5185 Posts
| ||
|
Artas1984
149 Posts
On May 15 2026 05:09 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Now lets go with Flash. Keyboard: Qsend DT-35 Mouse : WL Beast. Now the biggest and absolute shit razer can do from a brand standpoint is using FlaSh when no long ago he was involved in the crypto scandal and almost ruined his career and his perfect reputation took the biggest hit ever to the point they call him these days Coinwa. Aaa! Thank's for this explanation. The politics of marketing are deeper than we think. Totally forgot about crypto scandal (not that i care - Flash payed dearly for that with his own wallet). Also Flash would have had to use Razer stuff while gaming on TV, and since that did not happen, no ad for him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back to Flash vs. Soma. Coming into this ASL21, the story line was Flash's return after 6 years absence and claiming the throne once more - there was a theoretical probability that might not happen. It already happens. But how diminished all that would be if the player waiting for Flash in the finals would be someone else, but not the key contender defending the current ASL championship? There was also a probability of that not occurring, but it is happening also. If you calculate the possibility sum of these two independent stream of events, this is like a written Cinderalla story! A quote from AI (you should take it as a funny side not, and not seriously): Statistically, if you were to aggregate expert opinions from platforms like TL.net and r/broodwar before the matches began, Soma and Flash were the top two predicted finalists. If one assigned a conservative 40% chance for the reigning champion Soma to make the finals and a 30% chance for a returning, elite Flash to navigate a heavily Terran-favored map pool, the mathematical cross-probability of them meeting in the grand finals would sit roughly around 12% to 15% before a single game was played. | ||
|
jello_biafra
United Kingdom6642 Posts
| ||
|
SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
On May 12 2026 20:46 gravity wrote: I hope Flash goes mech again in the finals. I feel like I haven't seen that working often in ASL so would be cool if he can pull it off (I've heard it's done well in other matches). I actually hope not, unless its a very specific timing attack like a goliath/m&m push. I think mech is gimmicky and is not flexible enough for finals play. Its certainly a possibility though since its less demanding on the hands; though if Flash is serious about this being his last ASL, you’d think he’d lay it all out there instead of preserving his hands. | ||
|
Biff The Understudy
France8123 Posts
On May 17 2026 03:50 johanes wrote: I don't believe the current level of StarCraft play comes close to the KESPA era. The environment was fundamentally different back then: players lived together in team houses, ate and slept beside each other, and treated SC as the central focus of their lives. The training regimes were brutal. That intensity produced an extraordinarily high level of play that was lost afterward and has never been matched since. Today's scene is more relaxed and streaming-focused. The games are entertaining and fresh strategies keep emerging. But the overall level, especially at the very top, falls short of the peak the game once reached. Flash has the unique ability to keep the focus and use his training time super-effectively even without the Kespa environment. Were it not for his health issues, he would dominate the last years harder than ever before. On modern maps, current players would slam the kespa pros. They have two more decades of experience, understanding and strategic development under their belt. The intense practice you have done is not lost when you grow older and practice a bit less. It might be their mechanics have declined a little as they have grown older, but not by much and certainly not enough to compensate for two decades of development of strategic thinking. | ||
|
Miragee
8678 Posts
| ||
|
Freezard
Sweden1025 Posts
soma is also looking very sharp and will be a good matchup for him... at least I hope it will be a great match. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
I think Soma... as neo-JD... has a chance of winning. He may even be the favorite. Soma is an impressive student of the game + he has the killer instinct needed to throw Flash off. I still think Flash is the favorite... but yeah. On paper it is an amazing final. | ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
On May 18 2026 04:55 Freezard wrote: FlaSh's TvT must be the most dominant matchup in history. Doesn't matter who is his opponent, he makes it look so easy. His multitasking in those games was insane, reminds me of the old TvT days with all the dropship plays which I love to see. Modern day TvT is mostly focused on the siege lines and macro, although wraiths have started playing a bigger role again but unfortunately the valkyrie exists now. soma is also looking very sharp and will be a good matchup for him... at least I hope it will be a great match. Why can't he beat Last in Bo5? | ||
|
Zergxhx
China210 Posts
As far as I know, ASL3 Flash 3:0 Last was the fastest TvT Bo5 in history. | ||
|
SCRVN
227 Posts
Last vs Flash Summary Series count: 1W - 1L (50%) Game count: 3W - 3L (50%) | ||
|
TonDan04
51 Posts
| ||
|
byj
526 Posts
On May 19 2026 03:13 TonDan04 wrote: Flash is 100% going mech vs Soma. He was focusing on mech against JD when it mattered even more, there's no way he suddenly switches to SKT vs Soma. At the beginning of this video Flash is saying how he went 0-8 against Soma in practice with mech, so I doubt it | ||
|
TonDan04
51 Posts
On May 19 2026 04:10 byj wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpOhAdoAHfI At the beginning of this video Flash is saying how he went 0-8 against Soma in practice with mech, so I doubt it That's Flash gaslighting Soma. He was playing the long con. In fact, there's nothing even wrong with his wrist. He's been faking it these years. Also, his real name is Lim Yoh Hwan | ||
|
Miragee
8678 Posts
On May 19 2026 05:18 TonDan04 wrote: That's Flash gaslighting Soma. He was playing the long con. In fact, there's nothing even wrong with his wrist. He's been faking it these years. Also, his real name is Lim Yoh Hwan lmao, that cracked me up. | ||
|
Vasoline73
United States8071 Posts
On May 19 2026 04:10 byj wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpOhAdoAHfI At the beginning of this video Flash is saying how he went 0-8 against Soma in practice with mech, so I doubt it Can’t rewatch the video rn but doesn’t he say he went 0-8 with that specific double armory 14cc build against him? Not quite the same thing as mech in general. My apologies in advance if I am misremembering. I’ll watch soon and edit if needed. Cheers EDIT: Re-watched the video and you are right, he does say he loses every practice game he went mech. I still think the context suggests he's describing the CC first double armory build but I am obviously guessing. Thank you | ||
|
salito
1649 Posts
| ||
| ||
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/109.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/424.jpg)
