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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50843 Posts
6 hours ago
#421
HOW MANY FREE TANKS ARE OYOU GOING TO OFFER UP AMPLE
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Crimson)S(hadow
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Philippines646 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-20 12:47:03
6 hours ago
#422
On April 20 2026 21:18 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2026 21:15 Crimson)S(hadow wrote:
On April 20 2026 21:09 ggsimida wrote:
On April 20 2026 21:08 TMNT wrote:
On April 20 2026 21:01 ggsimida wrote:
On April 20 2026 20:59 TMNT wrote:
On April 20 2026 20:55 ggsimida wrote:
On April 20 2026 20:53 TMNT wrote:
On April 20 2026 20:38 razorsuKe wrote:
On April 20 2026 20:34 TMNT wrote:
[quote]
You don't lol.

This map is designed to be P favored in a standard PvZ. But if Z goes for one of their cheese options, there's no way to cover everything. To completely be safe against all scenarios, you have to build 6 cannons, two at the entrance, two at the main, two at the nat lmao.


hide a second probe out on the map, when you see the main cluster of lings at your ramp, send that probe in to have a look

That's assuming Zerg leaves the ramp unguarded. If sending a hidden probe to Zerg main is all it takes, 3 Hatch Hydra would never be that powerful. Zerg would protect the ramp with their life when they pull out the cheese on this map.



who says u have to go in? u just have to see the hydras coming out at x timing

You just forgot that we're trying to identify the cheese. If I know that Hydras are coming out, do I need to see it?

Pretty sure if you see the Mutas coming out, you won't be able to build cannon in time.


yes? seeing hydras at that timing i all u need to start the cannons? if theres no hydra then u dont and u have corsair? what other special defenses do u need?

You can't `defend 1H or 2H Muta without preemptively building cannons. 1 or 2 corsairs is not enough.


1h muta is easily defensible with 1 cannon at main. 2h is way later and ur corsair scouted by then


not soma's build. fastest possible muta is 11pool 10gas or 11pool 11 gas, your mutas finish around the time the corsair arrives or a bit before iirc. floating an overlord above the marine/medic so that the protoss can't even click to attack them to scout you is so messed up for protoss, they have to guess 5+ different lethal threats all of which have to be defended in very different ways. i say this as a zerg player


if u dont see the hydra coming down the ramp at x timing, i assume 1h muta . yes first corsair is late but u can hold the first 3-4 muta with cannon and dragoon. 1h muta is slow to build up u can defend if u get wind of it and dont lose 1st corsair


it's not 3-4 mutas, its 6-8 mutas if you time your larva right. the 2nd hatch will be up fast enough to bank 3 larva before the spire finishes, and if you scout with your sair and make cannons it will be too late because mutas flight time across the map is faster than the cannon's warp-in time

edit: it's worse than i remembered, muta are already 1/3 to your base by the time your corsair sees them
1:10:00 on the VOD
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22260 Posts
6 hours ago
#423
On April 20 2026 21:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
HOW MANY FREE TANKS ARE OYOU GOING TO OFFER UP AMPLE
ALL OF THEM!!
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50843 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-20 12:37:58
6 hours ago
#424
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5440 Posts
6 hours ago
#425
Flash looks mad lol
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines556 Posts
6 hours ago
#426
that was really bad by ample

that vulture fight at the first few minutes pretty much pushed him back so hard he couldn't really recover
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45612 Posts
6 hours ago
#427
Looks like Flash's cloaked wraiths will be the final nail in the coffin.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
b0mBerMan
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan285 Posts
6 hours ago
#428
that dropship fake won this game.
it attracted the army inside the main while flash moved to the 0 base
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50843 Posts
6 hours ago
#429
On April 20 2026 21:37 Peeano wrote:
Flash looks mad lol


he needs to start twitching again
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45612 Posts
6 hours ago
#430
Bisu vs. Flash now!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5157 Posts
6 hours ago
#431
On April 20 2026 20:59 Peeano wrote:
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On April 20 2026 20:57 a-game wrote:
Bisu vs Flash in like 3 hours after this TvT bo3

About an hour more like it.

Good call
Bisu vs Flash time!!
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b0mBerMan
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan285 Posts
6 hours ago
#432
Poll: Who will win?

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Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Bisu 2 - 0 Flash
(Vote): Bisu 2 - 1 Flash
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(Vote): Flash 2 - 1 Bisu

DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45612 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-04-20 12:46:56
6 hours ago
#433
Go Bisu!!!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
272 Posts
6 hours ago
#434
Bisu in my heart, byt man... Flash tvp much better than Bisu pvt
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5440 Posts
6 hours ago
#435
Bisu with the anti 14CC gateway.
FBH #1!
b0mBerMan
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan285 Posts
6 hours ago
#436
I still hate it that JD smashed flash and made him look like an absolute noob. but at least we have this final epic series!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45612 Posts
6 hours ago
#437
Hero dragoon timing.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22260 Posts
6 hours ago
#438
get stomped Bisu
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines556 Posts
5 hours ago
#439
reaver reaver reaver reaver
Yuru Yuri best anime
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13406 Posts
5 hours ago
#440
Had to wait for the reaver before attacking there. Why Bisu?
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