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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2036 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 03:47:04
22 hours ago
#2
So, what are the odds of Soulkey tripping up here?

Probably worst case scenario for him would be losing to some of well executed all-in from Barracks and then running into Effort in the Losers.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
pseudosignal
Profile Joined May 2025
36 Posts
21 hours ago
#3
Let's go Rush!

Would love Effort or Barracks to get out but I can't imagine a world where SoulKey doesn't progress.
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China152 Posts
20 hours ago
#4
If Barracks fails to beat SK in the first round, then SK will not be eliminated in this group, even with Rush and Effort
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11051 Posts
20 hours ago
#5
Ooh tough group. Effort at his best is insane.

I think this is a phenomenal opportunity for Rush to show us great matches. Hoping he does well.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
19 hours ago
#6
Rooting for effort with all my heart , but i think SK and rush will advance...

maybe if effort played with flash many training games...

i agree with Sabu , he is amazing at his best , but i think he isn't close to his peak now..
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
19 hours ago
#7
Also , don't forget the LB!

LB is the most important !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
19 hours ago
#8
On September 08 2025 15:04 prosatan wrote:
Rooting for effort with all my heart , but i think SK and rush will advance...

maybe if effort played with flash many training games...

i agree with Sabu , he is amazing at his best , but i think he isn't close to his peak now..


I think by now EffOrt knows with who he needs to train in order to get ready
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2589 Posts
19 hours ago
#9
I went with SK and EffOrt. Basically donating my LB points away.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4824 Posts
18 hours ago
#10
I'm so hyped this season.
Taxes are for Terrans
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
18 hours ago
#11
Another cakewalk for SK.

SK > Rax
Rush > Effort
SK > Rush
Rax > effort
Rush > Rax.

SK is too good for everyone in this group. I don’t see how he trips up with the bo3 in the winners and losers.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
16 hours ago
#12
Rush/Soulkey or shoot me. IN. THE FACE.
Also BisuDagger should be banned for that other post putting Bisu over Best. It's like when people argued on behalf of Spiderman Enter the Spiderweb vs The Boy and the Heron that one year. Permanently banned.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
192 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 09:42:26
16 hours ago
#13
i have the no surprises bet here - SK/Rush to go trough, but i kind of hope for Effort surprise
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
16 hours ago
#14
Effort has better ZvZ than Soulkey, (but his form might not be), and what works vs Flash obviously works vs Barracks and probably works fine vs Rush as well.
Excited to see everyone's form today. Barracks needs to bring his S game and get lucky to advance.
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
16 hours ago
#15
lets gooo effort
Yuru Yuri best anime
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
16 hours ago
#16
Flash vs Larva live right now!

you can watch till ASL starts!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
16 hours ago
#17
is larva punching the pikachu plushie again
Yuru Yuri best anime
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5489 Posts
15 hours ago
#18
I wonder if Soulkey gets Bonjwa consideration if he wins a few more ASLs.

He also went out in a Ro4 a few seasons ago to JyJ who won the season, it's hard to argue he isnt the best right now, yet post KESPA getting Bonjwa status seems a bit harder, what would it take? 6 ASL wins?
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
15 hours ago
#19
On September 08 2025 19:03 thezanursic wrote:
I wonder if Soulkey gets Bonjwa consideration if he wins a few more ASLs.


soulkey needs to overcome his fear of zvz first lol
Yuru Yuri best anime
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
76 Posts
15 hours ago
#20
If Soulkey can win in this round, 99% he will win this season. But 99% he wins this one.
Starcraft Remastered VN
Postaljester_
Profile Joined April 2023
32 Posts
15 hours ago
#21
SK going to win another season. Good map pool for Z and the dude is insane.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
15 hours ago
#22
Perfect starting pose for SK.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
15 hours ago
#23
wtf delay
Yuru Yuri best anime
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
15 hours ago
#24
On September 08 2025 19:01 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote:
is larva punching the pikachu plushie again

he won haha
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
15 hours ago
#25
holy shit rax
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
15 hours ago
#26
Hot Damn Rax didn't come to play, he came to win.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
15 hours ago
#27
Skipping lurkers, way too ambitious.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21748 Posts
15 hours ago
#28
Oh this is going to be a good group
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
15 hours ago
#29
Poll: Recommend Soulkey vs BarrackS?

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75%

No (2)
 
13%

If you have time (2)
 
13%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Soulkey vs BarrackS?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
15 hours ago
#30
Lmao. Where the 5 repeat sayers at? Soulkey just got schooled by Barracks.
FBH #1!
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China152 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 10:35:24
15 hours ago
#31
LMAO/SK lost to the Terran he considered the weakest in RO16
Postaljester_
Profile Joined April 2023
32 Posts
15 hours ago
#32
Too lazy on the sunks. I guess the mutas didn’t see enough for sk to know what’s coming. Ez hold with some D.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2036 Posts
15 hours ago
#33
Well, well...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2036 Posts
15 hours ago
#34
I didn't really catch the details. Did SK get blindsided by the valks?
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
15 hours ago
#35
On September 08 2025 19:36 Simplistik wrote:
I didn't really catch the details. Did SK get blindsided by the valks?


I don't think he spotted armory so he didn't make scourges in time, just my guess.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
15 hours ago
#36
Get the fuck out Rush doing this dumbshit u loser
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
15 hours ago
#37
alright effort vs soulkey zvz lets go
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
15 hours ago
#38
Poll: Recommend Rush vs EffOrt?

No (4)
 
57%

If you have time (3)
 
43%

Yes (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Rush vs EffOrt?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
15 hours ago
#39
On September 08 2025 12:45 Simplistik wrote:
So, what are the odds of Soulkey tripping up here?

Probably worst case scenario for him would be losing to some of well executed all-in from Barracks and then running into Effort in the Losers.


the stage is set.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4824 Posts
15 hours ago
#40
Effort letting himself lose to face SK? Who knows...
Taxes are for Terrans
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
15 hours ago
#41
I'm cheering for rush now
Yuru Yuri best anime
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
15 hours ago
#42
lol they both banned roaring currents
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#43
Hoping for a fun, high-level TvT now
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
14 hours ago
#44
Le't's go for a double bbs.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#45
Oh Jolly! Soulkey gotta ZvZ vs Effort for his tournament life :D
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
14 hours ago
#46
a few mismicros on the vultures for rush there
Yuru Yuri best anime
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
14 hours ago
#47
My liquidbet...
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
14 hours ago
#48
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

Yes (2)
 
50%

No (1)
 
25%

If you have time (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#49
On September 08 2025 20:11 iFU.pauline wrote:
My liquidbet...

:D
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
14 hours ago
#50
Who won first game? Please a bit of LR...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 11:16:19
14 hours ago
#51
On September 08 2025 20:13 prosatan wrote:
Who won first game? Please a bit of LR...

Rax, From the replay I saw he made a ball of M&M hid 2 valkyries long enough and then just marched to SK's natural. Sunks were not in time and the 11-13 mutas couldn't do shit, no scourges ready either.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#52
Oh, oops, you mean Barracks vs Rush? No1 who cares to LR is really watching a TvT between these two, I imagine :/
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
14 hours ago
#53
On September 08 2025 20:18 Peeano wrote:
Oh, oops, you mean Barracks vs Rush? No1 who cares to LR is really watching a TvT between these two, I imagine :/

Yes Peeano, rax vs rush first game
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#54
If only Rax had 2 scvs there a bit earlier lol. Woulda been a sick contain.
FBH #1!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21748 Posts
14 hours ago
#55
On September 08 2025 20:19 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2025 20:18 Peeano wrote:
Oh, oops, you mean Barracks vs Rush? No1 who cares to LR is really watching a TvT between these two, I imagine :/

Yes Peeano, rax vs rush first game
vulture wars, Barracks got a better run into the natural, snowballed into more vultures, killed rush.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
14 hours ago
#56
On September 08 2025 20:23 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2025 20:19 prosatan wrote:
On September 08 2025 20:18 Peeano wrote:
Oh, oops, you mean Barracks vs Rush? No1 who cares to LR is really watching a TvT between these two, I imagine :/

Yes Peeano, rax vs rush first game
vulture wars, Barracks got a better run into the natural, snowballed into more vultures, killed rush.



LB is going down...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
14 hours ago
#57
Rush ass blasting Barracks in this one. Amen.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 11:31:15
14 hours ago
#58
Barracks seemed to fall behind after he didn't do enough with his attack on the natural early and it was 3 base vs 2 for a while. Just slowly getting ground down since then.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#59
Rush about to tie things up!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#60
Fantasy GG timing from Barracks here.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
14 hours ago
#61
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

Yes (4)
 
80%

If you have time (1)
 
20%

No (0)
 
0%

5 total votes

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(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#62
On September 08 2025 20:34 gravity wrote:
Fantasy GG timing from Barracks here.


Agreed. 100+ supply down for quite some time there.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#63
Rush under pressure at the nat again, going better for Rax this time.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#64
Not sure if I'm watching Barracks or ForGG here.
FBH #1!
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
14 hours ago
#65
man rush is getting overwhelmed
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#66
Wraiths might turn it around?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#67
Barracks is up 80 supply to 60 supply, with good map control.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#68
Rax hit Rush with the same siege timing before Rush had it.
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#69
Wraiths broke the contain but Barracks is still a bit ahead.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#70
On September 08 2025 20:46 gravity wrote:
Wraiths might turn it around?


That would be the only way imo, they've at least helped Rush gain a little ground now.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
14 hours ago
#71
bad timing to unsiege rush
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#72
Rush has been keeping up pretty well in macro despite less bases, a shortage of gas is starting to bite though.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#73
Nice job by Barracks, dropping tanks onto Rush's third. Increased his supply lead from 15 to about 45 as Rush's vultures and SCVs were put into the grinder to barely clean things up.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#74
Barracks' drops haven't been very effective but he's pretty far ahead at this point.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#75
Barracks's mass dropships have earned him so much more map control, mobility, and vision. Up 190 to 130 supply.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
14 hours ago
#76
should be over soon
Yuru Yuri best anime
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
14 hours ago
#77
More dropships by Barracks, taking over Rush's main base. This game is over.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
14 hours ago
#78
Barracks more like...COMMANDCENTER
ROFL
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#79
ASL champ Rushax
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
14 hours ago
#80
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 3?

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0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
14 hours ago
#81
This all happened cuz Soulkey sucks hard ass.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#82
What a great day of ASL and LB ^^
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
14 hours ago
#83
Rush's fangirls fleeing the stadium in shame (or something)
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
14 hours ago
#84
On September 08 2025 20:58 RogerChillingworth wrote:
This all happened cuz Soulkey sucks hard ass.

lmao
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8240 Posts
14 hours ago
#85
I love you guys
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
14 hours ago
#86
the babyfaced assassin pulls it out again.
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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
13 hours ago
#87
Srsly Soulkey should have shat on Rax's confidence but instead Rax just Big Mario'd his way through. I don't even dislike Rax i just can't see him consistently doing well in the tournament, but somehow he pulls out these wins. FUCK.
Imagine being Rush and thinking you have scan but being 2 energy off and losing 2 tanks HOLY that's a broken keyboard.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
13 hours ago
#88
ZvZ time
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
13 hours ago
#89
soulkey didnt see the 9 o clock hatch?
Yuru Yuri best anime
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
13 hours ago
#90
Lol what is happening here, in fact SK did not see the expand!
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
13 hours ago
#91
Just trading a bit to free up psi for mutas, right?
FBH #1!
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#92
SK had to invest a lot in static d, is well behind
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#93
Bit of a base trade
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 12:21:25
13 hours ago
#94
this game has the makings to go to hive if somehow soulkey holds on.

nah I wanted him to gg faster so I jinxed myself by saying it.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13042 Posts
13 hours ago
#95
Soulkey never saw the expo? How is that even possible.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
13 hours ago
#96
was scared for effort for a second there, those lings were about to shred his lair
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#97
On September 08 2025 21:21 SkelA wrote:
Soulkey never saw the expo? How is that even possible.


champions curse finally hitting him after 4 seasons
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#98
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 1?

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86%

If you have time (1)
 
14%

No (0)
 
0%

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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
13 hours ago
#99
Great mind game by Effort. I would not have thought it will work vs a 4 time champ with x-spawn BO advantage.
FBH #1!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 12:24:28
13 hours ago
#100
On September 08 2025 21:21 SkelA wrote:
Soulkey never saw the expo? How is that even possible.


Only creep was slightly showing on his screen. No red dot on minimap. He probably moved over using minimap.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China152 Posts
13 hours ago
#101
King is dead...
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2782 Posts
13 hours ago
#102
Isn't that a bigger mistake than Motive placing the proxy in the wrong base? At least Motive has Rush to blame for. Soulkey has none.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#103
Pretty even so far, what now?
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#104
No need to lose that muta, back to even again
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
13 hours ago
#105
So it ends, not with a bang but a whimper
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
13 hours ago
#106
effort 540 apm
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#107
I guess it's going to come down to one big muta-scourge micro battle
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
13 hours ago
#108
Effort needs to expand here to force the issue.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#109
and Effort comes out ahead, but not quite GG yet
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China152 Posts
13 hours ago
#110
Effort's APM reached 590 in an instant...
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
13 hours ago
#111
surely effort knows there are spore in sk's base right
Yuru Yuri best anime
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#112
and like that its over
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
13 hours ago
#113
the king has fallen
Yuru Yuri best anime
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#114
And there is is, 4 time champ SoulKey is OUT of the ASL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#115
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 2?

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56%

If you have time (4)
 
44%

No (0)
 
0%

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fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4014 Posts
13 hours ago
#116
key to success in zvz:
build a defensive spore in your main
force an unfavorable fight in the middle of the map taking 0 advantage of the spore
Drone is a way of living
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21748 Posts
13 hours ago
#117
End of an era
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
13 hours ago
#118
On September 08 2025 16:56 RowdierBob wrote:
Another cakewalk for SK.

SK > Rax
Rush > Effort
SK > Rush
Rax > effort
Rush > Rax.

SK is too good for everyone in this group. I don’t see how he trips up with the bo3 in the winners and losers.

Cakewalk.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13042 Posts
13 hours ago
#119
Skey played sloppy today. We have a new champion.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
13 hours ago
#120
Ok now let's dispose of Rush and everything is good.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#121
I noticed that for the final battle, SoulKey kept his scourge quite spread out, while Effort did not. Wonder what to make of that.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
13 hours ago
#122
SK 0-3 out in his own orchestrated group.
FBH #1!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21748 Posts
13 hours ago
#123
Both the game vs Barracks as g1 vs Effort lost to scouting.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
13 hours ago
#124
Flash can make his comeback now the SK peak has passed :D
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#125
On September 08 2025 21:38 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2025 16:56 RowdierBob wrote:
Another cakewalk for SK.

SK > Rax
Rush > Effort
SK > Rush
Rax > effort
Rush > Rax.

SK is too good for everyone in this group. I don’t see how he trips up with the bo3 in the winners and losers.

Cakewalk.


at least it wasn't actual cakewalk group you know? Soulkey didn't get PDPOP'd.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
13 hours ago
#126
Shit. SK reign in ASL just ended. But hey 4 ASL is unmatched anyway. And no shame in losing to Effort. Who better to end your reign i guess.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
13 hours ago
#127
On September 08 2025 21:39 RowdierBob wrote:
Flash can make his comeback now the SK peak has passed :D

Without Flash Effort can't get gold :/
FBH #1!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
13 hours ago
#128
Not to meme but I'm not sure Soulkey cared about winning another season. Similar vibe to Maru in SC2, winning all those GSLs. Maru was injured eventually but still, I think there's an attraction to cigar-popping your own hype balloon. Eventually you phone it in a little and maybe subconsciously kinda throw so you can go do something else.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
13 hours ago
#129
> we're getting a new asl champ
> possibly jaedong/snow/larva

[image loading]
Yuru Yuri best anime
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2954 Posts
13 hours ago
#130
Also not sure Soulkey has been playing that much recently. Not as if he threw the games, just not necessarily as hungry.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
13 hours ago
#131
On September 08 2025 21:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Shit. SK reign in ASL just ended. But hey 4 ASL is unmatched anyway. And no shame in losing to Effort. Who better to end your reign i guess.

You forgot about the loss to Rax to make this all happen already? Damn bro
FBH #1!
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
13 hours ago
#132
Frankly, I did not expect SK winning vs EffOrt, his real problem was losing to Barracks.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
13 hours ago
#133
On September 08 2025 21:44 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2025 21:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Shit. SK reign in ASL just ended. But hey 4 ASL is unmatched anyway. And no shame in losing to Effort. Who better to end your reign i guess.

You forgot about the loss to Rax to make this all happen already? Damn bro

BO 1 is W.E
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#134
I knew it was done deal the moment he ended up facing effort.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
13 hours ago
#135
On September 08 2025 21:43 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Also not sure Soulkey has been playing that much recently. Not as if he threw the games, just not necessarily as hungry.

Not a secret . And he was also unhappy with the mappool for this ASL.

That said i have seen SK doing this no try hard for the last ASLs and winning all of them.

But i always said that all you needed to make it harder to SK was to bring zergs lol. Funny enough zerg vs zerg is what denied SK and Larva reaching the ASL final for a long time.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
13 hours ago
#136
Effort words from the ASL group ceremony hit extra hard now.
If you want to get eliminated pick me LOL
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#137
EffOrt looking scarily on point.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
13 hours ago
#138
dude those lurks werent on hold. That would have ended the game lol
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
13 hours ago
#139
GUARDIANS?!
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
13 hours ago
#140
lol that high ground miss shots!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
13 hours ago
#141
Guardians!
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
13 hours ago
#142
gg go next. is not even close
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
13 hours ago
#143
Guardians guarding for once
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
13 hours ago
#144
Rush losing IQ point by the second.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
13 hours ago
#145
I appreciate how Xun gives up his time to commentate for us. But man does he talk some shit. And I’m not sure why he loves the word tempo so much -_-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 13:01:19
13 hours ago
#146
Not going in the bunker seems like a pretty big miss

edit: not much damage done though I guess
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 13:04:04
12 hours ago
#147
Rush is simultaneously a thoughtless player and absolute mechanical monster. His macro is insane.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1892 Posts
12 hours ago
#148
From 3v3 base to 5v2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
12 hours ago
#149
TIL Irradiate does damage dmatrix shield.
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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
12 hours ago
#150
effort on point rn
Yuru Yuri best anime
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
12 hours ago
#151
Cowabunga!
FBH #1!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
12 hours ago
#152
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

Yes (12)
 
92%

No (1)
 
8%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 13:05:25
12 hours ago
#153
Get ready Rush, the FLASHSLAYER IS COMIN FOR YA! Time for your to pull up some dumshit bunker rush!
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#154
ROFL Rush not even risking the sim city outside. He knows effort crazy enough to do a 4 pool
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#155
4 hatcheries ?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#156
Man Rush is so scared of Effort. He just wasted that second scan.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
12 hours ago
#157
That early close third seems risky, going to be tough to defend.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#158
Well gonna be hard to comeback from that ;;
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#159
Rush has to be asking himself wtf just happened.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1604 Posts
12 hours ago
#160
EffOrtless -_-
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
LEKEY_NOOB
Profile Joined January 2025
Bulgaria10 Posts
12 hours ago
#161
Peak shit
:smug:
Zergxhx
Profile Joined November 2020
China152 Posts
12 hours ago
#162
King is back
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13046 Posts
12 hours ago
#163
Super impressive from Effort.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#164
And effort is like. Lol i was playing last night 2v2 Fighting spirit UMS with Calm and Mini and just eliminated SK and Rush in ASL.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands939 Posts
12 hours ago
#165
On September 08 2025 22:17 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
And effort is like. Lol i was playing last night 2v2 Fighting spirit UMS with Calm and Mini and just eliminated SK and Rush in ASL.

Soulkey mega sandbagged his prep. didnt play for 2 weeks and then played a lil bit since friday. somewhat expected this result given that mega inactivity and him dropping out of top 12 on eloboard.
JDON MY SOUL!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
12 hours ago
#166
What if Effort faked his first game of the day just to take out SK?
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
12 hours ago
#167
On September 08 2025 22:16 Zergxhx wrote:
King is back

Lmao
FBH #1!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#168
The most impressive from that last game is that those lings didnt have any upgrade. How the fck he destroyed Rush like that lol.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
12 hours ago
#169
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

Yes (7)
 
78%

No (1)
 
11%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
12 hours ago
#170
fuck yeah effort
Yuru Yuri best anime
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6623 Posts
12 hours ago
#171
Lol apparently JD helped effort to practise and he didnt mention him in the interview, JD so mad right now LOL
SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
76 Posts
12 hours ago
#172
On September 08 2025 22:18 Peeano wrote:
What if Effort faked his first game of the day just to take out SK?

Sure, I said that only another Zerg can beat Soulkey. Barrack never wins SK in Bo2, Bo3, or any BOs.

This map pool favors Zerg so much, so organizer want to see a new champion!
Starcraft Remastered VN
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44481 Posts
12 hours ago
#173
Congrats to Barracks and Effort!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1454 Posts
12 hours ago
#174
My LB is ruined, but I am satisfied with the result. Can't wait for BCM to snipe Soulkey in the qualifier.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
192 Posts
11 hours ago
#175
huh that was one poor performance from SK, no?
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1622 Posts
11 hours ago
#176
what the fuck
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4824 Posts
11 hours ago
#177
On September 08 2025 23:09 Zografa wrote:
huh that was one poor performance from SK, no?

'Twas written in the stars.
Taxes are for Terrans
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines271 Posts
10 hours ago
#178
On September 08 2025 22:24 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Lol apparently JD helped effort to practise and he didnt mention him in the interview, JD so mad right now LOL


lmfao
Yuru Yuri best anime
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13977 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 15:35:36
10 hours ago
#179
I really shouldn't have bitched out on liquibets, I was sooooo close to calling it correctly, and given how narrow my lead is...it really could matter lmao.
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4201 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 15:54:13
10 hours ago
#180
Wow.. what a crazy result, indeed. Quite happy about it, ngl. Very cool to see!

GGs WP
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands939 Posts
9 hours ago
#181
I didnt call it, but I did have a hunch:

On August 29 2025 17:40 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2025 08:45 TMNT wrote:
I think Soulkey is not gonna win this season. No particular reason. Just feel like the odds of winning 5 in a row is too slim, especially when there are so many Zergs and he may not be the best motivated after 4 peat, plus he's not lookin amazing online recently (although he never did, online)

Soulkey did have periods where he looked amazing online, but these periods were never right before an ASL. Soulkey always gets into peak form whenever it is his time to play. Last four seasons he got progressively better online the deeper he got into the tournament, allegedly because his motivation increases along with his activity. What is different however is that after the first three wins he had a more dominant 2 months after in his online play. This time around the two months after he was not as dominant, and he was less active. We could take this as a sign of losing his competitive drive. I'd say it is too early to say, but it is not impossible.

Also his two only competitors over these past two years, Light, and SnOw, and for the last season a peaking Best who doesnt count for this specific comparison, are at their lowest points of activity in years. Whether this decreased activity will hurt their performance or whether it was just enough to stay in form is something we will find out in the ro16.

on paper this season is due to above reasons the perfect season for someone else to take the throne. SoMa, Bisu, Jaedong, Queen specifically come to mind with how the maps are rather zerg favored. Even Larva has a chance because his activity level is insanely high.

JDON MY SOUL!
Stopthevirtualaddict
Profile Joined November 2024
30 Posts
7 hours ago
#182
On September 08 2025 21:39 Peeano wrote:
SK 0-3 out in his own orchestrated group.

He just gave up or not no power left. Should have gone sleeping instead of preparing on a rush.
He actually was ahead in every game some even big leads. But he deserves the rest, he will come back.
laurasad
Profile Joined September 2025
1 Post
6 hours ago
#183
On September 09 2025 01:22 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
I didnt call it, but I did have a hunch:

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2025 17:40 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On August 29 2025 08:45 TMNT wrote:
I think Soulkey is not gonna win this season. No particular reason. Just feel like the odds of winning 5 in a row is too slim, especially when there are so many Zergs and he may not be the best motivated after 4 peat, plus he's not lookin amazing online recently (although he never did, online)

Soulkey did have periods where he looked amazing online, but these periods were never right before an ASL. Soulkey always gets into peak form whenever it is his time to play. Last four seasons he got progressively better online the deeper he got into the tournament, allegedly because his motivation increases along with his activity. What is different however is that after the first three wins he had a more dominant 2 months after in his online play. This time around the two months after he was not as dominant, and he was less active. We could take this as a sign of losing his competitive drive. I'd say it is too early to say, but it is not impossible.

Also his two only competitors over these past two years, Light, and SnOw, and for the last season a peaking Best who doesnt count for this specific comparison, are at their lowest points of activity in years. Whether this decreased activity will hurt their performance or whether it was just enough to stay in form is something we will find out in the ro16.

on paper this season is due to above reasons the perfect season for someone else to take the throne. SoMa, Bisu, Jaedong, Queen specifically come to mind with how the maps are rather zerg favored. Even Larva has a chance because his activity level is insanely high.



But that is not really true. Soulkey had a mediocre online performance before his first title, an okay online performance before his second title. He actually had insane performance right before the maps for SSL/ASL18 were released, but struggled to adapt to those maps, specially against Terran. In response, he abused crazy zerg in SSL (third title). Before his fourth title he had a good performance but not clearly above everyone else, although he had been less active the prior weeks, but it was expected he would get back in shape after increasing his activity.

The main difference between ASL20 and all those other titles, I think, are lack of motivation to practice and hubris.

Lack of motovation: he barely played any BW in the last 3 weeks. And let's be clear: he streamed for more than half of those days, but he played LOL and random crap instead of practicing. He also has very few games in cwal. All in all. He didn't give a crap about practicing. What Simplistik wrote in the preview for the ro16 is just plain wrong: SK's lack of online practice is not because he practiced offline, he just didn't practice at all.

Not only was he inactive for the last 3 weeks, but also he lost to Best 2/7 before going inactive, and lost to bisu 3/4 just a few days ago in the only games between his inactivity period and ASL.

And yet with all his more than mediocre recent performance and lack of practice, he took for granted that he would go to round of 4, and even had the luxury of not picking his best option (Sharp, see group selection on tastosis) out of pity instead of selecting the player that would maximize his chances of winning.


I'm a Soulkey fan, but I'm glad he didn't win. He simply didn't deserve it. He had to be humbled and reality checked.




CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1761 Posts
5 hours ago
#184
Soulkey overrated?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States948 Posts
4 hours ago
#185
Can we discuss how the Ro 16 format is bullshit?

Why would it be bo 1 in the first match? The first match decides just as much as any other match (since it decides whether you go to losers or winners match) but it's randomly bo1
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9760 Posts
4 hours ago
#186
Oh my god what on earth happened here lmfao

rest in pieces, liquibets
boomer hands
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5089 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-08 21:39:27
4 hours ago
#187
On September 09 2025 06:17 iopq wrote:
Can we discuss how the Ro 16 format is bullshit?

Why would it be bo 1 in the first match? The first match decides just as much as any other match (since it decides whether you go to losers or winners match) but it's randomly bo1

The champ gets to pretty much cherry pick his own group AND the first match up. That is indeed kinda bullshit, but some call it privilege. And karma is great entertainment.
FBH #1!
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21748 Posts
4 hours ago
#188
On September 09 2025 06:17 iopq wrote:
Can we discuss how the Ro 16 format is bullshit?

Why would it be bo 1 in the first match? The first match decides just as much as any other match (since it decides whether you go to losers or winners match) but it's randomly bo1
very simple.

5 best of 3s take to long.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States948 Posts
4 hours ago
#189
On September 09 2025 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 06:17 iopq wrote:
Can we discuss how the Ro 16 format is bullshit?

Why would it be bo 1 in the first match? The first match decides just as much as any other match (since it decides whether you go to losers or winners match) but it's randomly bo1
very simple.

5 best of 3s take to long.

Yes, but it privileges the first game as twice as important as the other games. Most other events do the opposite:

Winners bracket bo3 (including first games), losers bo1

that way the person who moves on from winners bracket had to win two bo3 series
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21748 Posts
4 hours ago
#190
the game with 'less' stakes is a bo1, no one is going home or advancing.
The games where someone advances or is eliminated is a bo3.

I'd much rather have the current system then to have the elimination matches be a bo1 coinflip.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States948 Posts
4 hours ago
#191
I had ChatGPT do some simulations, so take it with a grain of salt, seems both variants are not that different

Assumptions (what I simulated)

4-player GSL group (5 matches: M1, M2, M3 winners’, M4 losers’, M5 decider).

Player A is the “target” (the strongest). A has per-game win probability p vs any other player.

Matches between non-A players are 50/50 per game.

All matches are Bo1 except the one you choose to be Bo3. Two variants:

Variant 1 (M1 Bo3, M5 Bo1) — first match is Bo3, decider is Bo1.

Variant 2 (M1 Bo1, M5 Bo3) — first match is Bo1, decider is Bo3.

I simulated many groups (200k trials each) to estimate the probability A qualifies from the group.

Results (probability A qualifies)
per-game p (approx. Elo Δ) M1=Bo3, M5=Bo1 M1=Bo1, M5=Bo3 difference (B − A)
0.536 (Δ≈25) 56.26% 56.43% +0.17 pp
0.570 (Δ≈50) 62.18% 62.27% +0.09 pp
0.606 (Δ≈75) 68.05% 68.20% +0.15 pp
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey414 Posts
3 hours ago
#192
On September 09 2025 07:00 iopq wrote:
I had ChatGPT do some simulations, so take it with a grain of salt, seems both variants are not that different

Show nested quote +
Assumptions (what I simulated)

4-player GSL group (5 matches: M1, M2, M3 winners’, M4 losers’, M5 decider).

Player A is the “target” (the strongest). A has per-game win probability p vs any other player.

Matches between non-A players are 50/50 per game.

All matches are Bo1 except the one you choose to be Bo3. Two variants:

Variant 1 (M1 Bo3, M5 Bo1) — first match is Bo3, decider is Bo1.

Variant 2 (M1 Bo1, M5 Bo3) — first match is Bo1, decider is Bo3.

I simulated many groups (200k trials each) to estimate the probability A qualifies from the group.

Results (probability A qualifies)
per-game p (approx. Elo Δ) M1=Bo3, M5=Bo1 M1=Bo1, M5=Bo3 difference (B − A)
0.536 (Δ≈25) 56.26% 56.43% +0.17 pp
0.570 (Δ≈50) 62.18% 62.27% +0.09 pp
0.606 (Δ≈75) 68.05% 68.20% +0.15 pp

Still, it says Bo1;Bo3(in other words as it stands right now) is better for Soulkey, whatever his chances may be for qualifying into Ro8.
Turrican
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands939 Posts
3 hours ago
#193
On September 09 2025 04:15 laurasad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 01:22 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
I didnt call it, but I did have a hunch:

On August 29 2025 17:40 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
On August 29 2025 08:45 TMNT wrote:
I think Soulkey is not gonna win this season. No particular reason. Just feel like the odds of winning 5 in a row is too slim, especially when there are so many Zergs and he may not be the best motivated after 4 peat, plus he's not lookin amazing online recently (although he never did, online)

Soulkey did have periods where he looked amazing online, but these periods were never right before an ASL. Soulkey always gets into peak form whenever it is his time to play. Last four seasons he got progressively better online the deeper he got into the tournament, allegedly because his motivation increases along with his activity. What is different however is that after the first three wins he had a more dominant 2 months after in his online play. This time around the two months after he was not as dominant, and he was less active. We could take this as a sign of losing his competitive drive. I'd say it is too early to say, but it is not impossible.

Also his two only competitors over these past two years, Light, and SnOw, and for the last season a peaking Best who doesnt count for this specific comparison, are at their lowest points of activity in years. Whether this decreased activity will hurt their performance or whether it was just enough to stay in form is something we will find out in the ro16.

on paper this season is due to above reasons the perfect season for someone else to take the throne. SoMa, Bisu, Jaedong, Queen specifically come to mind with how the maps are rather zerg favored. Even Larva has a chance because his activity level is insanely high.



But that is not really true. Soulkey had a mediocre online performance before his first title, an okay online performance before his second title. He actually had insane performance right before the maps for SSL/ASL18 were released, but struggled to adapt to those maps, specially against Terran. In response, he abused crazy zerg in SSL (third title). Before his fourth title he had a good performance but not clearly above everyone else, although he had been less active the prior weeks, but it was expected he would get back in shape after increasing his activity.

The main difference between ASL20 and all those other titles, I think, are lack of motivation to practice and hubris.

Lack of motovation: he barely played any BW in the last 3 weeks. And let's be clear: he streamed for more than half of those days, but he played LOL and random crap instead of practicing. He also has very few games in cwal. All in all. He didn't give a crap about practicing. What Simplistik wrote in the preview for the ro16 is just plain wrong: SK's lack of online practice is not because he practiced offline, he just didn't practice at all.

Not only was he inactive for the last 3 weeks, but also he lost to Best 2/7 before going inactive, and lost to bisu 3/4 just a few days ago in the only games between his inactivity period and ASL.

And yet with all his more than mediocre recent performance and lack of practice, he took for granted that he would go to round of 4, and even had the luxury of not picking his best option (Sharp, see group selection on tastosis) out of pity instead of selecting the player that would maximize his chances of winning.


I'm a Soulkey fan, but I'm glad he didn't win. He simply didn't deserve it. He had to be humbled and reality checked.


And even his ladder play was all as terran. He played more as terran in his prep than he played as zerg.
JDON MY SOUL!
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey414 Posts
3 hours ago
#194
On August 29 2025 06:08 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2025 22:41 goody153 wrote:
Effort making it out first and quite easily is not what I expected ngl

Maybe Soulkey cant get the 5th title this time around with the amount of zergs in r16

Also I expected alot from Calm being so confident during the interview

Wait till you see him in the quarterfinals. This guy beat Flash at his peak. Soulkey will have a hard time running away from him in the brackets.

What do you say guys? I called it, or what!
Turrican
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
446 Posts
3 hours ago
#195
the way SK dropped out today could have happened just as well in any of the previous seasons imo
(*^^)(^*)
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey414 Posts
2 hours ago
#196
On September 09 2025 07:56 Kraekkling wrote:
the way SK dropped out today could have happened just as well in any of the previous seasons imo

You just don't understand the pressure of playing in a Roaring Currents map pool. How many finals have Soulkey won in Bo7? I say close to 100% if we discount Sharp, sorry Sharp UwU.
Turrican
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50270 Posts
1 hour ago
#197
On September 09 2025 06:47 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 06:17 iopq wrote:
Can we discuss how the Ro 16 format is bullshit?

Why would it be bo 1 in the first match? The first match decides just as much as any other match (since it decides whether you go to losers or winners match) but it's randomly bo1
very simple.

5 best of 3s take to long.


Pretty much this. They're just trying to make sure everyone can get to at least the last train home.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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SCRVN
Profile Joined June 2024
76 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-09-09 00:42:04
1 hour ago
#198
On September 09 2025 06:17 iopq wrote:
Can we discuss how the Ro 16 format is bullshit?

Why would it be bo 1 in the first match? The first match decides just as much as any other match (since it decides whether you go to losers or winners match) but it's randomly bo1

I agree with you, 5 Bo 3 is better than 2 Bo 1 + 3 Bo 3. Bo1 killed SK, it's not Barrack.

This is one of the best format:
(Wiki)2018 Korea StarCraft League Season 1

My opinion, I prefer Bo 2 to Bo 1 or Bo 3. In Bo 2, we will have win, lose, and draw.
Starcraft Remastered VN
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2036 Posts
1 hour ago
#199
On September 09 2025 04:15 laurasad wrote:
What Simplistik wrote in the preview for the ro16 is just plain wrong: SK's lack of online practice is not because he practiced offline, he just didn't practice at all.

I'm happy to take responsibility for my mistakes, but I didn't write any Ro16 preview...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Stopthevirtualaddict
Profile Joined November 2024
30 Posts
1 hour ago
#200
On September 09 2025 07:56 Kraekkling wrote:
the way SK dropped out today could have happened just as well in any of the previous seasons imo

How so? He literally was ahead in every game he played. With quite a margin.
First game straight build order win with overlord even scouting efforts hidden base. Somehow didnt see it, eventhough we see in the life casting his screen switching to that overlord, creep visibile and suddenly send exactly at that point, on the height of the hatch his overlord to the right side back home or whatever. Even than
2nd game vs effort again literally quite ahead. Sees everything with overlord has build advantage decides to do a mass ling flood on a map with a tiny choke. Than gifts mutas randomly.
Vs barracks barracks does nothing and goes for valk push, the thing that literally vs popular 6-5 seasons ago. I honestly thought barracks was a moron for playing literally the easiest game for SK, the anti terran late game god.
But SK didnt even show up…

Even efforts game was strange, strange sunken placements …
I dont know what is going this season, but i find more than strange, the games we are having, like this isnt normal anymore…
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2589 Posts
1 hour ago
#201
I will say that SK's online games for the past 3-4 weeks were really lackluster. Losing proleague / KCM. Here's to hoping SK finds his drive back again in time for ASL21. And for flash to appear next season.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey414 Posts
15 minutes ago
#202
On September 09 2025 09:53 Stopthevirtualaddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2025 07:56 Kraekkling wrote:
the way SK dropped out today could have happened just as well in any of the previous seasons imo

How so? He literally was ahead in every game he played. With quite a margin.
First game straight build order win with overlord even scouting efforts hidden base. Somehow didnt see it, eventhough we see in the life casting his screen switching to that overlord, creep visibile and suddenly send exactly at that point, on the height of the hatch his overlord to the right side back home or whatever. Even than
2nd game vs effort again literally quite ahead. Sees everything with overlord has build advantage decides to do a mass ling flood on a map with a tiny choke. Than gifts mutas randomly.
Vs barracks barracks does nothing and goes for valk push, the thing that literally vs popular 6-5 seasons ago. I honestly thought barracks was a moron for playing literally the easiest game for SK, the anti terran late game god.
But SK didnt even show up…

Even efforts game was strange, strange sunken placements …
I dont know what is going this season, but i find more than strange, the games we are having, like this isnt normal anymore…

You have to understand he took the graceful fall. Notice, the worst thing that could happen right now is a Bo7 final game decider on Roaring Currents like in ASL 15. I think he didn't want his reputation tarnished. High level Starcraft is mostly mental fortitude and looks like Soulkey is afraid of losing in finals more than losing in brackets. He didn't want a rollercoaster of emotions on stage.
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