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.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
December 07 2007 10:21 GMT
#221
yea, he had 2 groups but controlled 1 at a time.

up unfortunately only killed overlords and hardly any drones, jaedong had 2base mining for too long
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 07 2007 10:21 GMT
#222
/sigh. You're not going to win a Bo5 vs Jaedong making those decisions up :/
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boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
December 07 2007 10:21 GMT
#223
Yeah, UpMagic messed that up though but, most games are won by mistakes anyway, that's nothing new.
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 07 2007 10:22 GMT
#224
Upmagics harass was horrible. He didnt kill almost no drones, only overlords, that gave Jaedong lots of resources, and poof, once he gets enough supply he gets like streams of mutas. So poor by Upmagic not having vessel with irridate earlier. But great play by Jaedong. Doulbe muta harass was so awsome :o
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
December 07 2007 10:22 GMT
#225
On December 07 2007 19:20 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2007 19:18 DJEtterStyle wrote:
On December 07 2007 19:17 NovaTheFeared wrote:
A lot of people have talked jokingly about two groups of muta harassing perfectly in 2 different spots, and we just saw it!

No we didn't.

We saw Jaedong micro one group, divert Up's army, retreat, and send in his second group. It was still "single control" at all times.

Added: Nice enough, sure, but this wasn't some absurd micromanagement. Players do it every time they get their opponents' attention before an MM or reaver drop.


agreed.

but you have to admit that was pretty insane execution by Jaedong

Completely agreed. But saying it was "perfect dual mutalisk harass" is horribly inaccurate and deceptive.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
December 07 2007 10:22 GMT
#226
HAHAHAHHAA. I love OGN commercials.

Don't play Starcraft without manner. You might want to kick his ass in person, then find out he's your boss. Hilarious!
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7229 Posts
December 07 2007 10:23 GMT
#227
Even if Upmagic had managed to kill the spire, which would have been huge, it wouldn't have done nearly as much damage to Jaedong as killing the 10++ drones he could have managed in that time. I couldn't believe Up targeted the spire when Jaedong had a poorly placed spore at his nat and a very late spore at his main.
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11304 Posts
December 07 2007 10:25 GMT
#228
So, please don't let this be over in 3 games - so far there was some wacky play, but nothing really epic. Lets see proper terran balls and lurker ling masses.
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.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
December 07 2007 10:25 GMT
#229
That spore at natural covered his drones

but the main was disappointing, could've raped it clean or at least shut it down and made it into 1base mining
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defenestrate
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States579 Posts
December 07 2007 10:26 GMT
#230
The games are pure entertainment without the emotional investment of Bisu vs Savior and the like. I'm starting to like these two quite a bit.
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Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
December 07 2007 10:26 GMT
#231
On December 07 2007 19:20 sovietico wrote:
omg... if u hv 6 wraiths and jaedong has no spire no spores and no hidra den... ¿why kill ovies????? just kill the fuking drones, or the emergin spire. what tipe of units he can spawn that can kill u? zrlings?


At first, he only had 2 wraiths in Jaedong's base. Killing drones with 2 wraiths takes a long time, so it's better to target the overlords. It hurts to lose many overlords just before you want to get mutas, so Jaedong could only get a few scourges and mutas at first, had to build another spore in his main, and then slowly stock up in overlord and muta count.
I think Upmagic did the right thing with his wraiths (Jaedong was in trouble), but lost because of sloppy M&M control and probably because his transition from wraith to expansion and M&M wasn't smooth/good enough.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
December 07 2007 10:27 GMT
#232
Jaedong's Muta harass looked a lot better than it really was I think. UpMagic fucked that one up. I'll have to rewatch that game, it was an interesting one.
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
December 07 2007 10:27 GMT
#233
I'm hoping for good positioning on Fantasy II here o_o;;
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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
December 07 2007 10:27 GMT
#234
now I hope for a 3-0. I really need to study but I cant stop watching
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
December 07 2007 10:28 GMT
#235
Nobody will ever perfectly micro 2 groups of muts in different places. And clearly, Jaedong hasn't done this today, though he did execute 2 muta raids at once with very good control.

I've been playing some Team Melee with friends lately and it totally just occurred to me how amazing 2 people controlling 2 different groups of muts at the same time.. Just frightening..

Excellent execution by Jaedong, there's no denying he's a ZvT monster.
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intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 07 2007 10:28 GMT
#236
On December 07 2007 19:26 Brutalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2007 19:20 sovietico wrote:
omg... if u hv 6 wraiths and jaedong has no spire no spores and no hidra den... ¿why kill ovies????? just kill the fuking drones, or the emergin spire. what tipe of units he can spawn that can kill u? zrlings?


At first, he only had 2 wraiths in Jaedong's base. Killing drones with 2 wraiths takes a long time, so it's better to target the overlords. It hurts to lose many overlords just before you want to get mutas, so Jaedong could only get a few scourges and mutas at first, had to build another spore in his main, and then slowly stock up in overlord and muta count.
I think Upmagic did the right thing with his wraiths (Jaedong was in trouble), but lost because of sloppy M&M control and probably because his transition from wraith to expansion and M&M wasn't smooth/good enough.

after a while when there were no ovies, it was worth killing the drones

that is all we are saying
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
December 07 2007 10:29 GMT
#237
Jaedong looks a little like savior with that pissed off grin o_o;
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
Brutalisk
Profile Joined February 2007
794 Posts
December 07 2007 10:30 GMT
#238
Yeah, sure, when the overlords are dead you can target drones of course.
But overlords were a higher priority for Upmagic at first (to delay muta/scourge), so I can understand that he didn't go after the drones at first.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
December 07 2007 10:31 GMT
#239
On December 07 2007 19:29 .dragoon wrote:
Jaedong looks a little like savior with that pissed off grin o_o;


Jaedong strikes me as a cross between Anytime and Savior (in looks)
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 07 2007 10:32 GMT
#240
if up wins this then he can win katrina ez and then game 5 it shall be
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