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AyOnY
Profile Joined July 2006
Pitcairn1026 Posts
October 24 2007 08:28 GMT
#21
On October 24 2007 17:23 IaniAniaN wrote:
I doubt Savior will play free 100% straight up like he did against bisu, Reminiscent of Savior vs Hwasin, I doubt we'll see savior play his trip hatch every game, he'll change it up and make free work for it (but probably lose anyways). Can someone tell me though, what's free so good at in PvZ that Stork and Bisu can't do? Just game sense?


What the hell are you talking about? Bisu is best PvZ on earth...
GoRush fan~
KimHyung
Profile Joined June 2007
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 08:53:07
October 24 2007 08:51 GMT
#22
On (Z)October 24 2007 17:28 AyOnY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)October 24 2007 17:23 IaniAniaN wrote:
I doubt (Z)sAviOr will play (P)free 100% straight up like he did against (P)Bisu, Reminiscent of (Z)sAviOr vs (T)Hwasin, I doubt we'll see (Z)sAviOr play his trip hatch every game, he'll change it up and make (P)free work for it (but probably lose anyways). Can someone tell me though, what's (P)free so good at in PvZ that (P)Stork and (P)Bisu can't do? Just game sense?


What the hell are you talking about? (P)Bisu is (P)BeSt PvZ on earth...


But not forever.

Do not underestimate (Z)sAviOr, i know he`ll use his god powers and smash that Protoss little wh**e

Zergs ! Fight for Freedom @@; !!

Time to end this P dominance.
The biggest loser is the person which don`t even try since is afraid of defeat.
bellsprout
Profile Joined June 2006
Australia219 Posts
October 24 2007 08:53 GMT
#23
question: when was the last time savior beat a top competitor who's not stork?
KimHyung
Profile Joined June 2007
60 Posts
October 24 2007 08:53 GMT
#24
Long time ago in Galaxy....
The biggest loser is the person which don`t even try since is afraid of defeat.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 24 2007 10:37 GMT
#25
On October 24 2007 17:53 bellsprout wrote:
question: when was the last time savior beat a top competitor who's not stork?


ironically it was a 2-0 of free
sAviOr...
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 24 2007 10:40 GMT
#26
I want to see sAviOr vs Bisu. And I want a comeback of sAviOr.

Bisu vs sAviOr finals~

5 games.. all games 1 hour+ °°
Bisu win 3-2°!!!^^
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
October 24 2007 12:20 GMT
#27
sAviOr will win, but it will be a hard fight, free is a monster at PvZ, it should be some entertaining game. OCT 25!
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 12:33:38
October 24 2007 12:33 GMT
#28
I would love to see Savior lose this one. He just keeps winning at ZvP against everyone who isn't Bisu and that needs to change. I don't know if Free can pull it off however. Probably 3:1 or 3:2 to Savior, but this could go either way so easily.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
October 24 2007 13:18 GMT
#29
savior > free @ python
free > savior @ blue storm
free > savior @ loki ii
savior > free @ zodiac
savior > free @ python

savior > free 3:2
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
October 24 2007 13:26 GMT
#30
Predictions

Game 1 -- Savior has yet to lose a ZvP on Python (even though his ZvT sucks there). Free has lost exactly 2 PvZ matches on Python... both to Savior.
Savior > Free

Game 2 -- I honestly have no idea. Records indicate that P has the advantage, but only 9 ZvP matches total have been played. The map is unusual and I have yet to play it. However, I will go Savior, since I don't think the balance is enough to push this game into Free's favor, though I might be wrong.
Savior > Free

Game 3 -- Only 1 PvZ total has been played here and as I would expect, P won that match. With the base behind the main like that, this map is really good for PvZ. Free will be able to get upto 3 bases easily and go into macro mode from there with Savior unable to curb it, only go into macro mode himself. I think Free's precision PvZ senses will clinch it.
Savior < Free

Game 4 -- This map seems pretty well balanced in PvZ to me. That essentially means Savior has the advantage.
Savior > Free

Savior 3 - Free 1
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
October 24 2007 15:18 GMT
#31
Man, Free will be owned really bad.

They'll play python 2 times, (provided Free manages to steal two games), and I really don't see Free winning on Python against sAviOr.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
sohee_pink
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Philippines447 Posts
October 24 2007 15:20 GMT
#32
sAviOr gogo :D
Hiatus
kigga
Profile Joined March 2007
United States200 Posts
October 24 2007 15:23 GMT
#33
On October 24 2007 22:26 Mortality wrote:
Predictions

Game 1 -- Savior has yet to lose a ZvP on Python (even though his ZvT sucks there). Free has lost exactly 2 PvZ matches on Python... both to Savior.
Savior > Free

Game 2 -- I honestly have no idea. Records indicate that P has the advantage, but only 9 ZvP matches total have been played. The map is unusual and I have yet to play it. However, I will go Savior, since I don't think the balance is enough to push this game into Free's favor, though I might be wrong.
Savior > Free

Game 3 -- Only 1 PvZ total has been played here and as I would expect, P won that match. With the base behind the main like that, this map is really good for PvZ. Free will be able to get upto 3 bases easily and go into macro mode from there with Savior unable to curb it, only go into macro mode himself. I think Free's precision PvZ senses will clinch it.
Savior < Free

Game 4 -- This map seems pretty well balanced in PvZ to me. That essentially means Savior has the advantage.
Savior > Free

Savior 3 - Free 1






100% Agree with this. If Free pulls away 2 wins, game 5 is on Python and I don't see Savior losing on it


gogo Savior!
rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
October 24 2007 15:30 GMT
#34
Free 3-2 Savior.
IntoTheRainBOw fan~
DJEtterStyle
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2766 Posts
October 24 2007 15:50 GMT
#35
On October 25 2007 00:30 rushz0rz wrote:
Free 3-2 Savior.

Precisely! As I said in a different thread...

9 of the 283 reasons why Free is going to beat Savior:

1) Remember that episode of Family Guy where Lois' Tae-Jitsu instructor tells her to "free the beast"? See any similarities to the name Free[gm]? Free is going to free his beast all over Savior's forehead.
2) Incidentally, "Free the Beast" is also the name of Slauter Xstroyes' second album--yet another reference to Free slaughtering Savior.
3) The original savior, Jesus Christ, got nailed to a fucking cross. Who was responsible? Not the Jews. No, it was Free.
4) Savior's original handle was IPXZerg. The Korean prefix IPX roughly translates to "that guy who loses to Free on October 25, 2007."
5) The weakest Protoss unit is the zealot. The weakest Zerg unit is the zergling. One versus one, who wins? That's right, the zealot. And lest you say that it's "not a fair comparison," just remember that this series is one versus one.
6) Nietzsche declared that God is dead, which means that there's no one to give Savior his usual divine inspiration.
7) It's a little known fact that Savior's team, CJ, stands for "Complete Jokes."
8) I've referred to Free as "The Perfect Storm" once or twice. One of the maps is Blue Storm. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.
9) One of the maps is Zodiac. Free is a Sagittarius. Savior is a Cancer. Based upon these indisputable facts, we can safely say that Free is going to prove to be a figurative tumor in Savior's brain.

(Feel free to add the rest if you know them! I'm just tired of typing.)
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 24 2007 15:56 GMT
#36
in how many hours is this
Sadness
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Brazil552 Posts
October 24 2007 16:03 GMT
#37
On October 25 2007 00:50 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Precisely! As I said in a different thread...

5) The weakest Protoss unit is the zealot. The weakest Zerg unit is the zergling. One versus one, who wins? That's right, the zealot. And lest you say that it's "not a fair comparison," just remember that this series is one versus one.

7) It's a little known fact that Savior's team, CJ, stands for "Complete Jokes."

8) I've referred to Free as "The Perfect Storm" once or twice. One of the maps is Blue Storm. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.



haha
I loved these ones
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 24 2007 16:06 GMT
#38
On October 25 2007 00:50 DJEtterStyle wrote:


(Feel free to add the rest if you know them! I'm just tired of typing.)


I C Wut you did thar!
Trucy Wright is hot
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 24 2007 16:18 GMT
#39
Good maps for PvZ. But it won't be enough for Free to win.
Moderator
P_King
Profile Joined February 2006
Russian Federation363 Posts
October 24 2007 16:43 GMT
#40
Voted Savior, hoping free =)
[Oops]Reach-gogogo :)
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