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GomTV3 MSL Ro8 - Savior vs. Free - Page 4

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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 20:31:23
October 24 2007 20:29 GMT
#61
viceroy, don't be condescending. your opinions are really misinformed and ignorant, and you write them as if they are fact. there are just so many inaccuracies and bad assumptions in your posts, i don't even know where to start.

i'd advise not posting broad, sweeping statements on subjects you have no clue about.
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viceroy
Profile Joined January 2003
Romania227 Posts
October 24 2007 20:48 GMT
#62
On October 25 2007 05:29 Hot_Bid wrote:
viceroy, don't be condescending. your opinions are really misinformed and ignorant, and you write them as if they are fact. there are just so many inaccuracies and bad assumptions in your posts, i don't even know where to start.

i'd advise not posting broad, sweeping statements on subjects you have no clue about.


aye aye captain ! I see the wisdom of your words !
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
October 24 2007 20:53 GMT
#63
@ what time this games start?
and can i watch it on gomtv? or do i have to use yaoyuan? or maybe even pplive? :o
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Darkmole
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States900 Posts
October 24 2007 21:23 GMT
#64
if savior is on a slump he could lose but screw that im going for MaeJaeYoon all the way! my predictions on the finals is going to be MaeJaeYoon vs KimTaekYong (Savior vs Bisu)
MarklarMarklar
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Fiji1823 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 21:33:16
October 24 2007 21:32 GMT
#65
Free got a much better PvZ than stork i believe, i think he got a shot to take 1-2 games from savior
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OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
October 24 2007 21:42 GMT
#66
On October 25 2007 05:01 viceroy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2007 04:07 lovetramy wrote:
impossible to win a good toss ?
lolz

you understand the meaning of nearly ? yes ? that is many tanks ? yes ?
Many good players changed races (Testie, Goody comes to mind) to be protoss players, right ? I think they could provide you with good arguments. But then again, I'm not sure you'd understand and would be just a waste of time.
misquoting me and then adding at the end a meaningful lolz, makes for a good post, and gives insides into your brain development.

Cause neither of them have the required hand speed to play Zerg or Terran.
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Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 24 2007 22:02 GMT
#67
On October 25 2007 03:44 viceroy wrote:
It seems nearly impossible to win against good protoss these days. Strong units that require less micro, a very strategical play where the player doesn't have to rely on intuition or skill... gg
So I think Free has the advantage.
I'd say 3-1 for Free. But I would really like the Maestro to win...


OK, so is the strong unit that require less micro, no intuition, no skill description of PvZ only true today? Why has it not been true for the 6 years prior to this? Did it take a genius like Bisu to figure out that protoss has strong units and that PvZ takes no skill? Did all P players for the past 6 years lose PvZ because they didn't know how to use strong units that require no micro and require no intuition and skill? Oh, maybe they tried to use skill and that's why they lost lawl

Maybe it is hard to win ZvP nowadays, but please, give us real reasons instead of that bullshit explanation of yours
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Breavman
Profile Joined September 2004
Sweden598 Posts
October 24 2007 22:07 GMT
#68
Bisu was the first, but soon every korean protoss will dicover the secret teachings of Goody and Testie. And that will be the end of Zerg.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
October 24 2007 22:10 GMT
#69
viceroy is hilarious lol
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
October 24 2007 22:28 GMT
#70
yay sAviOr is going to tear this protoss. I see 3-1 with Free taking a game on either python or loki.
sAviOr's ZvP is still the strongest matchup in all of progaming. His ZvT may be less effective, but I don't see him losing zvp against a non-bisu toss.
IaniAniaN
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada555 Posts
October 24 2007 22:32 GMT
#71
On October 24 2007 17:28 AyOnY wrote:
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On October 24 2007 17:23 IaniAniaN wrote:
I doubt Savior will play free 100% straight up like he did against bisu, Reminiscent of Savior vs Hwasin, I doubt we'll see savior play his trip hatch every game, he'll change it up and make free work for it (but probably lose anyways). Can someone tell me though, what's free so good at in PvZ that Stork and Bisu can't do? Just game sense?


What the hell are you talking about? Bisu is best PvZ on earth...


I meant that Savior is obviously going to win, I was just wondering what free does in ZvP that's so exceptional that people think he could pull this off?
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
October 24 2007 22:36 GMT
#72
On October 25 2007 04:55 viceroy wrote:
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On October 25 2007 04:13 Sadness wrote:
On October 25 2007 03:44 viceroy wrote:
It seems nearly impossible to win against good protoss these days. Strong units that require less micro, a very strategical play where the player doesn't have to rely on intuition or skill... gg

ROFL
Dumbest post of the week


Care to comment ? or you're just making stupid statements to reach your quota for today ?
I'm pretty sure Z's still beat toss the majority of the time... This is no worse than the Dark Ages were for toss, when no matter what toss went against another player it seemed like the other player would always win, and toss winning ANY game was a cause for a happy week.
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hhkx
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada757 Posts
October 24 2007 22:41 GMT
#73
viceroy is my hero
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5085 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 22:47:54
October 24 2007 22:41 GMT
#74
i like this quote by hot bid
10-11. My Name is Danger
The big names do not want to face Free. On a bad day he beats himself, on a good day he beats anyone.

free has strong pvz, his biggest problem is whether he shows up to play or not

if he shows up, it could be an electric series
you wouldnt feel that way if it was your magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon • I am merely guest #13,678!
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
October 24 2007 23:28 GMT
#75
i guess free has this special fear of the maestro since its 0-4 and always he screws it up somehow when playing with him, lets hope he really put on his best performance, altho being a zerg fanboy, SAVIOR FTW @!!
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-24 23:30:23
October 24 2007 23:28 GMT
#76
Honestly, I'm convinced Free is good enough to win a Starleague sooner or later, but I'm thinking it'll be later and not sooner. :p
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
October 24 2007 23:31 GMT
#77
On October 25 2007 05:48 viceroy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2007 05:29 Hot_Bid wrote:
viceroy, don't be condescending. your opinions are really misinformed and ignorant, and you write them as if they are fact. there are just so many inaccuracies and bad assumptions in your posts, i don't even know where to start.

i'd advise not posting broad, sweeping statements on subjects you have no clue about.


aye aye captain ! I see the wisdom of your words !


Douchebaggery ahoy !

Seriously, protoss is only easier at really really low levels of play.
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
October 24 2007 23:39 GMT
#78
I will be really surprised if Free wins this. I just don't see him as a championship level player here...
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Juglinjugglo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)187 Posts
October 25 2007 01:09 GMT
#79
i think free will win 3-1...
Juglinjugglo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)187 Posts
October 25 2007 01:09 GMT
#80
savior doesn't seem to care much about the matches these days... after wcg he seems out of tune.. or is that just my imagination?
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