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[RCG 2021] - Ro16 Group Stage - This Weekend!

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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1515 Posts
June 23 2021 13:25 GMT
#1
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Boys and Girls, RCG 2021 starts this weekend, players who will advance from RO16 groups, will secure their spots in RCG 2021 Grand Finals!


Main Event:Russian Cyber Games 2021
until the final event.


Prize pool: US$ 10,000 prize pool guaranteed, and your contributions are very much welcomed;
(If we will double RCG2021 prizepool, we will have RCG2022)


RCG2021 - RO16 GROUPS

Group A ()
pe TerrOr
cl UltrA
ru g0rynich
us BoA

Group B ()
ru Dewalt
cl babo
hu Sziky
ru Grimeboss

Group C ()
pl Bonyth
no MadiNho
se OyA
ru spx

Group D ()
pe Dandy
pl Julia
pl / kogeT
pe Gosudark

  • TOP2 Advances from each group
  • All matches are bo3
  • First map is random, next map is losers pick
  • Group A & B will be casted on Saturday, Group C & D will be casted on Sunday - START 16:30 CET!



BROADCAST

PRODUCTION & GAME OBSERVER
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ZZZero

us ENGLISH BROADCAST us
[image loading] https://www.twitch.tv/zzzeropl

CASTERS
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Ziggy &
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SeriOsity

bo SPANISH BROADCAST es
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https://www.facebook.com/BobxMalcom

ru RUSSIAN BROADCAST ru
https://www.twitch.tv/silver_gg/
https://www.twitch.tv/ash_dreamer_

kr KOREAN BROADCAST kr
http://play.afreecatv.com/jsc9905




Guys, I heard that there have been some kind of `continent battles` between some of you. I didn't have enough time to follow it and I will not get into that now, but let's take a step back and be grateful for a second that we have such a big event in 2021, with a possibility to extend it for 2022 (!!). Looking from the TOP players perspective it's very important that there are enough tournaments with a big enough prize pool, that they can consider dedicating more time into improving their skills in StarCraft. That's what a tournament like RCG does the best and that's the main reason it's so important. Noone is perfect, but let's put our hard feelings aside and all appreciate this great event!


Prize pool: US$ 10,000 prize pool guaranteed, and your contributions are very much welcomed;
(If we will double RCG2021 prizepool, we will have RCG2022)



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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
June 23 2021 13:43 GMT
#2
Hype!!!
Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 14:38:55
June 23 2021 14:38 GMT
#3
I think the donations should be capped to correlate with the applicable spots for each continent. So essentially only 1/8th of the $10,000 can be contributed from the North and South Americas. And then the rest will have to pull their weight.

In fact, why can't that be the new format going forward? Each continent/country buys how many spots they get to compete for in the next tournament.
aka: Yaj
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 15:34:13
June 23 2021 15:33 GMT
#4
Please let's not continue this nonsense discussion over here guys, I am aware of the disagreement on this topic. I get the arguments from both sides and I understand some of them.

I will not get into this topic, but I will say something to you from my perspective on how preparing tournament work:
I plan every season of BSL monthss ahead, everything needs to be prepared before the announcement of the season. When I do "announcement event" and after the games I present to you when next season starts and how it's going to look like, I have everything ready:
- TL.net guys are waiting to post the article with all the info: format, intro, rules, qualifications methods, groups format, maps, how to sign up etc. The work starts way earlier than you think, that's the time when I decide how I want the graphics to look like, how many scenes I need to prepare, what exact format should be implemented in the bracket assets, how every single graphics should look like in the smallest detail etc. I will not mention re-scheduling players (that's the moment where I get most of the feedback).
When this stage happens, no changes are possible in the whole tournament. (Some ideas of the players are really good, and I will take them into consideration for future, it's just TOO LATE to implement them this season).

That's why, not jumping into who is right, let's assume that we are all dumb-nolargerview-asses.

I will open a new topic, when my health will get better and I will have time to plan BSL13 in details, then we will talk about my thoughts and arguments in this area. But from now on, please, can we all be in one "SC:R is the best game" team, not "there are 50 of us, let's divide this small chunk of people even more" team ?
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Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
June 23 2021 16:04 GMT
#5
I apologize, I wasn't trying to incite a debate of any sort. When I first read all of the whining my first instinct was to just point out that it's Rus Brain's tournament and money and he can do whatever he pleases but then remembering that half of the prize pool is provided by the community would prove that point unfair and disrespectful. My thought was instead of whining, people can put their money where their mouth is and institute some control via finances. By allowing countries to 'buy' their potential slots it would also provide accountability and commitment.
aka: Yaj
Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
June 23 2021 16:08 GMT
#6
Its still amusing to me that salty NA people are trying to control a thing that they have 0 business controlling.

Host your own tourneys for NA people only and make a bigger prizepool if you are a salty about RCG.

Rus_brain can do whatever he wants with his tourney, just be grateful that he is hosting a tourney at all.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 16:55:00
June 23 2021 16:52 GMT
#7
What is better ?

Swarm or Storm ?
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masoka82
Profile Joined June 2020
Spain594 Posts
June 23 2021 16:56 GMT
#8
On June 24 2021 01:52 ZZZero.O wrote:
What is better ?

Swarm or Storm ?
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Dad or Mom, Zzzero or Rush brain, Rcg or BSL .... Everything is so hard to choose
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
June 23 2021 19:44 GMT
#9
Swarm, no question.
WriterReV hwaiting!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 19:59:41
June 23 2021 19:59 GMT
#10
On June 24 2021 01:08 Ikirouta wrote:
Its still amusing to me that salty NA people are trying to control a thing that they have 0 business controlling.

Host your own tourneys for NA people only and make a bigger prizepool if you are a salty about RCG.

Rus_brain can do whatever he wants with his tourney, just be grateful that he is hosting a tourney at all.

They do host tours only for NA.. Only way they can actually win..

Anyways - go go Poland!

Hope for some great games.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
June 23 2021 21:31 GMT
#11
Gogo Sziky!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 22:08:39
June 23 2021 21:50 GMT
#12
Im very much looking forward to Rcg! Bonyth hype!
Broodwar for life!
ox.tQ
Profile Joined November 2010
794 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-23 22:56:54
June 23 2021 22:48 GMT
#13
yay, $10,000 minimum prize pool & BSL Team broadcast...
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Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
June 26 2021 08:10 GMT
#14
Starting time question: in the post the text says 16:30 CET. Currently we use CEST (the remaining time in the post is set to 1630CEST), so what would be the starting time exactly? On liquipedia page and in tl.net calendar it says 15 CEST btw.
Thanks for the answer in advance!
ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1515 Posts
June 26 2021 13:27 GMT
#15
Russian Cyber Games 2021 : RO16 Day 1:

GROUP A
- TerrOr
- UltrA
- g0rynich
- BoA
GROUP B
- Dewalt
- Babo
- Sziky
- Casper

LIVE IN 30 min: https://www.twitch.tv/zzzeropl

(We might start a bit earlier than planned, cuz games might end faster)
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
June 28 2021 09:15 GMT
#16
GGs
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria484 Posts
June 28 2021 20:00 GMT
#17
On June 23 2021 23:38 Q~Bert wrote:
I think the donations should be capped to correlate with the applicable spots for each continent. So essentially only 1/8th of the $10,000 can be contributed from the North and South Americas. And then the rest will have to pull their weight.

In fact, why can't that be the new format going forward? Each continent/country buys how many spots they get to compete for in the next tournament.



This argument would have made sense if the actual potential qualifying spots for the Americas wasn't 10 in reality. You got 2 spots from the Americas qualifier, 6 potential spots from the top 3 of the past two BSL's which are open to everyone outside Korea, 1 spot from the World qualifier and 1 spot for the previous champion. This is more than the 1/8 you've stated above and it's also evident by the fact that a total of 6 players from the Americas qualified to the ro16 this year. All of this is well documented on liquipedia, from where I stand this is more than enough for any player to showcase their skill in case they can successfully compete with the best.
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Q~Bert
Profile Joined June 2006
United States663 Posts
June 29 2021 14:31 GMT
#18
On June 29 2021 05:00 BulgarianToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2021 23:38 Q~Bert wrote:
I think the donations should be capped to correlate with the applicable spots for each continent. So essentially only 1/8th of the $10,000 can be contributed from the North and South Americas. And then the rest will have to pull their weight.

In fact, why can't that be the new format going forward? Each continent/country buys how many spots they get to compete for in the next tournament.



This argument would have made sense if the actual potential qualifying spots for the Americas wasn't 10 in reality. You got 2 spots from the Americas qualifier, 6 potential spots from the top 3 of the past two BSL's which are open to everyone outside Korea, 1 spot from the World qualifier and 1 spot for the previous champion. This is more than the 1/8 you've stated above and it's also evident by the fact that a total of 6 players from the Americas qualified to the ro16 this year. All of this is well documented on liquipedia, from where I stand this is more than enough for any player to showcase their skill in case they can successfully compete with the best.



All of those routes (BSL, former champion, etc.) are available to every other country as well so it's irrelevant. In the end the Americas still receive only two additional potential spots. Thus, 1/8th.

Regardless, that part of my message was actually more of a joke but it spawned an actual idea that I feel is potentially justifiable being we buy our potential slots for the next tournament.
aka: Yaj
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-29 20:06:13
June 29 2021 19:10 GMT
#19
On June 29 2021 23:31 Q~Bert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2021 05:00 BulgarianToss wrote:
On June 23 2021 23:38 Q~Bert wrote:
I think the donations should be capped to correlate with the applicable spots for each continent. So essentially only 1/8th of the $10,000 can be contributed from the North and South Americas. And then the rest will have to pull their weight.

In fact, why can't that be the new format going forward? Each continent/country buys how many spots they get to compete for in the next tournament.



This argument would have made sense if the actual potential qualifying spots for the Americas wasn't 10 in reality. You got 2 spots from the Americas qualifier, 6 potential spots from the top 3 of the past two BSL's which are open to everyone outside Korea, 1 spot from the World qualifier and 1 spot for the previous champion. This is more than the 1/8 you've stated above and it's also evident by the fact that a total of 6 players from the Americas qualified to the ro16 this year. All of this is well documented on liquipedia, from where I stand this is more than enough for any player to showcase their skill in case they can successfully compete with the best.



All of those routes (BSL, former champion, etc.) are available to every other country as well so it's irrelevant. In the end the Americas still receive only two additional potential spots. Thus, 1/8th.

Regardless, that part of my message was actually more of a joke but it spawned an actual idea that I feel is potentially justifiable being we buy our potential slots for the next tournament.


You'd be suprised how expensive 1 slot might be. We're not talking just % points of the prize pool, there are costs for housing, air travel, the venue etc etc. It's also poor sportmanship kind of?
Imagine europeans outbid you massively and it's 1/8 th again, how would that feel. I can't help myself, that does not seem a healthy route for the tournament to develop into. If brain would share that idea, it's 5/8th FSU only by his money alone.

My point is: as spiritual sucessor of WCG RCG aims to bring the best [non korean] players, not those with the best paying fanbase.

Edit: your math is wrong. The quote for the americas is actually 2/8th of all regional bound spots. The others are open to everybody and shouldn't be counted for or against the quota of any region.
Broodwar for life!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
June 29 2021 19:13 GMT
#20
*sigh*
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