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angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
60 Posts
March 13 2021 08:36 GMT
#21
Very impressive showing by JyJ. Hope that free qualifies tomorrow
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 08:36 GMT
#22
No surprise at all there. Jyj has been looking great and Free not so much. Happy Jyj made it
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 08:42:26
March 13 2021 08:40 GMT
#23
On March 13 2021 17:35 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 17:30 Sirris wrote:
On March 13 2021 17:11 ggsimida wrote:
On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.

I understand your point but I don't agree with the reasoning. I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur. The reason it doesnt happen imo is because of the simple economics of the current state of brood war. Without some recognition you wont be able to support yourself with streaming alone and therefore must work a job. Taking a lot of time from practice etc. I don't think its some expro worship but rather its very hard for newer blood to logistically break into the pro level. Not even factoring natural "talent". It's just not the type of game (extremely high level skill requiring huge amounts of daily practice) that will allow a newer player to reach the highest levels without patronage. Patronage like lots of balloon gifts etc is very hard to come by for up and coming players. Wish it wasnt the case myself, but that seems to be hard cold reality of broodwar these days.


what you just said is basically part of "little to no incentive and support systems" that i just mention.

"I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur."
are they? yes of course it would be nice to see that, but that takes far more effort and incentive than say continuing to spon flash v bisu for the 1000th time or seeing artosis stream bw. and by their vievership the latter stuff is still ultimately what draws people into continuing to watch bw till this day. people are just expecting hot amateurs to magically rise out of thin air.
I hear you man, but economically, what kind of support systems do you think would possible? I don't see it happening. So we basically agree. The only difference is I think that most fans would love to see someone come out of no where especially in these times.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
March 13 2021 08:41 GMT
#24
Remaning games.

Group 4 finals: Sexy vs Mong
Group 6 finals: `iops].. s2 (I think) vs MIsO
Artosis loves Starcraft
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland593 Posts
March 13 2021 08:42 GMT
#25
Where can i register for qualifiers
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 08:44 GMT
#26
Mong and Miso will win
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
March 13 2021 08:54 GMT
#27
On March 13 2021 17:42 Bonyth wrote:
Where can i register for qualifiers


Sign up period ended on 03/09

Ziggy posted the relevant infos in this thread:

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/570094-asl11-set-to-start-28-03
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
March 13 2021 09:15 GMT
#28
On March 13 2021 17:11 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.

i want new blood in the scene
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:25:25
March 13 2021 09:24 GMT
#29
I think this is MisO vs `iops].. s2

Not sure what other IDs `iops].. s2 uses.
Artosis loves Starcraft
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 13 2021 09:26 GMT
#30
Korea has more 51 million people, but It's just about 200 people who join qualifier ASL 11?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 09:31 GMT
#31
On March 13 2021 18:26 bovienchien wrote:
Korea has more 51 million people, but It's just about 200 people who join qualifier ASL 11?

People arent insane lol...they know they can't win.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:33:54
March 13 2021 09:33 GMT
#32
On March 13 2021 18:31 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 18:26 bovienchien wrote:
Korea has more 51 million people, but It's just about 200 people who join qualifier ASL 11?

People arent insane lol...they know they can't win.

Yes, this game is just for fun. Almost we can't win ASL!
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
elpolloloco31
Profile Joined April 2018
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:36:32
March 13 2021 09:36 GMT
#33
amateur beat miso. lol

more than a regular beat. Destroyed
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
March 13 2021 09:37 GMT
#34
always good to see new guys make it through

End / soso1 / `iops].. s2
fighting
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
March 13 2021 09:37 GMT
#35
miso super mad
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
60 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:41:19
March 13 2021 09:38 GMT
#36
here's your new blood, i guess?
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 09:44 GMT
#37
Well that was unexpected Good luck to him!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
March 13 2021 09:48 GMT
#38
Qualifed players for day 2
PianO
EffOrt
Mini
JyJ
Mong
7411_soso1
Artosis loves Starcraft
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
March 13 2021 09:49 GMT
#39
On March 13 2021 18:38 angryground wrote:
here's your new blood, i guess?


old name, think he qualified for asl before

anyway yeah its good
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
March 13 2021 10:02 GMT
#40
6 more players! Who we miss from regular pros?
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