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FakeFin
Profile Joined December 2018
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 03:36:30
March 13 2021 02:38 GMT
#1
Notable Players:
Group 1 EffOrt pCs Iris Artosis Ruin Dewalt Scan YSC 815 yerim2 BarrackS
Group 2 hero Prime ZeLoT Ample July PianO Sea Fresh yabsab
Group 3 free kOp Sacsri DDasik Olympus JyJ Hm PitBull ice Gaeko
Group 4 Leta Modesty Sexy Khala Pianist Motive beast Spire Mong
Group 5 Hyuk MoolSo Killer Yangachi Mini Hint Jy
Group 6 Stork ToSsGirL hani Cola MIsO Ridesky BishOp ByuL Fleta Mighty

These names are all only based on their korean names, some of them might be just some amateurs who happen to have the same name.
Notable players not showing up in this list does not necessarily mean they aren't playing, in some cases i might have just overlooked them in the brackets

Total number of participants: 226
Bsl8u
Profile Joined March 2020
3 Posts
March 13 2021 03:42 GMT
#2
How can i watch Dewalt games ?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10184 Posts
March 13 2021 05:54 GMT
#3
oh my god group 1 is so funny. Scan vs Artosis would be so funny

Group 2 is also really stacked
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InmateNextdoor
Profile Joined November 2017
43 Posts
March 13 2021 06:31 GMT
#4
Why is Afreeca not having English casting?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
March 13 2021 06:33 GMT
#5
WoW that game look all hero 100% until that doom drop.
Artosis loves Starcraft
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
March 13 2021 06:34 GMT
#6
On March 13 2021 14:54 FlaShFTW wrote:
oh my god group 1 is so funny. Scan vs Artosis would be so funny

Group 2 is also really stacked


Looks like Scan eliminated Dewalt 2-0.
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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2781 Posts
March 13 2021 06:49 GMT
#7
Looks like Stork gets knocked out by a lesser known amateur player called Icarus. Hope he qualifies tomorrow.

Soulkey still nowhere to be seen. Weird that he did play the wildcard qualifier.
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 06:52 GMT
#8
Stork seems quite out of shape compared to the past. Also based on other games I've seen of him. Very possible he won't qualify. In the other qualifiers thread people were saying that soulkey was doing some type of government mandated service (possibly a non military civil service).
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 07:38:51
March 13 2021 06:54 GMT
#9
Who did just play TvZ? Terran was so strong.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
March 13 2021 06:55 GMT
#10
fuck yeah piano!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 07:02:31
March 13 2021 06:57 GMT
#11
Both games hero just eaten alive by dropships. GG PianO
Shame for hero. He was looking good before those drops killed him both games.

Edit: EffOrt vs BarrackS on stream now.
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superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
March 13 2021 07:29 GMT
#12
Any game with Artosis yet?
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 07:33:06
March 13 2021 07:31 GMT
#13
Artosis already got knocked out. I think it was a Zerg player named YoungJoo.

Edit: Mini vs Hyuk is on stream now.
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
March 13 2021 07:48 GMT
#14
its kinda amazing and sad the likes of hyuk and miso always reaches the qualifier finals/qualify for asl despite their joke status among expros. i woould rather see a new promising amateur face than them
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 08:01 GMT
#15
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 08:08:50
March 13 2021 08:07 GMT
#16
Players advanced so far
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Group 1: EffOrt 2-0 BarrakS
Group 2: PianO 2-0 hero
Group 5: Mini 2-0 Hyuk
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 08:11:51
March 13 2021 08:11 GMT
#17
On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
March 13 2021 08:13 GMT
#18
Group 3 final: free vs JyJ on stream now. Looks like it's drawn 1-1 so far.
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Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 08:34:54
March 13 2021 08:30 GMT
#19
On March 13 2021 17:11 ggsimida wrote:
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On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.

I understand your point but I don't agree with the reasoning. I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur. The reason it doesnt happen imo is because of the simple economics of the current state of brood war. Without some previous recognition a promising amateur won't be able to support themselves with streaming alone because people won't be aware of you enough to watch your stream. Therefore that player must work a job; taking a lot of time from practice etc. I don't think its some expro worship, but rather it's very hard for newer blood to logistically break into the top pro level. Not even factoring natural "talent". It's just not the type of game (extremely high level skill requiring huge amounts of daily practice) that will allow a newer player to reach the highest levels without patronage. Patronage like lots of balloon gifts etc is very hard to come by for up and coming players. Wish it wasnt the case myself, but that seems to be hard cold reality of broodwar these days.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 08:36:45
March 13 2021 08:35 GMT
#20
On March 13 2021 17:30 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 17:11 ggsimida wrote:
On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.

I understand your point but I don't agree with the reasoning. I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur. The reason it doesnt happen imo is because of the simple economics of the current state of brood war. Without some recognition you wont be able to support yourself with streaming alone and therefore must work a job. Taking a lot of time from practice etc. I don't think its some expro worship but rather its very hard for newer blood to logistically break into the pro level. Not even factoring natural "talent". It's just not the type of game (extremely high level skill requiring huge amounts of daily practice) that will allow a newer player to reach the highest levels without patronage. Patronage like lots of balloon gifts etc is very hard to come by for up and coming players. Wish it wasnt the case myself, but that seems to be hard cold reality of broodwar these days.


what you just said is basically part of "little to no incentive and support systems" that i just mention.

"I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur."
are they? yes of course it would be nice to see that, but that takes far more effort and incentive than say continuing to spon flash v bisu for the 1000th time or seeing artosis stream bw. and by their vievership the latter stuff is still ultimately what draws people into continuing to watch bw till this day. people are just expecting hot amateurs to magically rise out of thin air.
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
March 13 2021 08:36 GMT
#21
Very impressive showing by JyJ. Hope that free qualifies tomorrow
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 08:36 GMT
#22
No surprise at all there. Jyj has been looking great and Free not so much. Happy Jyj made it
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 08:42:26
March 13 2021 08:40 GMT
#23
On March 13 2021 17:35 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 17:30 Sirris wrote:
On March 13 2021 17:11 ggsimida wrote:
On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.

I understand your point but I don't agree with the reasoning. I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur. The reason it doesnt happen imo is because of the simple economics of the current state of brood war. Without some recognition you wont be able to support yourself with streaming alone and therefore must work a job. Taking a lot of time from practice etc. I don't think its some expro worship but rather its very hard for newer blood to logistically break into the pro level. Not even factoring natural "talent". It's just not the type of game (extremely high level skill requiring huge amounts of daily practice) that will allow a newer player to reach the highest levels without patronage. Patronage like lots of balloon gifts etc is very hard to come by for up and coming players. Wish it wasnt the case myself, but that seems to be hard cold reality of broodwar these days.


what you just said is basically part of "little to no incentive and support systems" that i just mention.

"I think the community would be very excited by a new champion amateur."
are they? yes of course it would be nice to see that, but that takes far more effort and incentive than say continuing to spon flash v bisu for the 1000th time or seeing artosis stream bw. and by their vievership the latter stuff is still ultimately what draws people into continuing to watch bw till this day. people are just expecting hot amateurs to magically rise out of thin air.
I hear you man, but economically, what kind of support systems do you think would possible? I don't see it happening. So we basically agree. The only difference is I think that most fans would love to see someone come out of no where especially in these times.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
March 13 2021 08:41 GMT
#24
Remaning games.

Group 4 finals: Sexy vs Mong
Group 6 finals: `iops].. s2 (I think) vs MIsO
Artosis loves Starcraft
Bonyth
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland569 Posts
March 13 2021 08:42 GMT
#25
Where can i register for qualifiers
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 08:44 GMT
#26
Mong and Miso will win
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
March 13 2021 08:54 GMT
#27
On March 13 2021 17:42 Bonyth wrote:
Where can i register for qualifiers


Sign up period ended on 03/09

Ziggy posted the relevant infos in this thread:

https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/570094-asl11-set-to-start-28-03
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
March 13 2021 09:15 GMT
#28
On March 13 2021 17:11 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 17:01 Sirris wrote:
I see what you're saying but It's very rare to see a new promising amateur. Brood war is hard as hell. Its not their fault they are good enough to qualify but not win.


its more like the current scene is effectively just a expro worship circlejerk that everyone (including koreans and foreigners and even myself) unfortunately wants to see it continue and nothing else. so theres little to no incentive and support systems whatsoever to help amateurs improve. soma is a rare exception only because he was buddies with larva. hyukking and miso/ggaemo choking is long old and stale.

i want new blood in the scene
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:25:25
March 13 2021 09:24 GMT
#29
I think this is MisO vs `iops].. s2

Not sure what other IDs `iops].. s2 uses.
Artosis loves Starcraft
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
March 13 2021 09:26 GMT
#30
Korea has more 51 million people, but It's just about 200 people who join qualifier ASL 11?
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 09:31 GMT
#31
On March 13 2021 18:26 bovienchien wrote:
Korea has more 51 million people, but It's just about 200 people who join qualifier ASL 11?

People arent insane lol...they know they can't win.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:33:54
March 13 2021 09:33 GMT
#32
On March 13 2021 18:31 Sirris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2021 18:26 bovienchien wrote:
Korea has more 51 million people, but It's just about 200 people who join qualifier ASL 11?

People arent insane lol...they know they can't win.

Yes, this game is just for fun. Almost we can't win ASL!
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
elpolloloco31
Profile Joined April 2018
145 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:36:32
March 13 2021 09:36 GMT
#33
amateur beat miso. lol

more than a regular beat. Destroyed
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
March 13 2021 09:37 GMT
#34
always good to see new guys make it through

End / soso1 / `iops].. s2
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WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
March 13 2021 09:37 GMT
#35
miso super mad
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
angryground
Profile Joined March 2021
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 09:41:19
March 13 2021 09:38 GMT
#36
here's your new blood, i guess?
Sirris
Profile Joined November 2019
681 Posts
March 13 2021 09:44 GMT
#37
Well that was unexpected Good luck to him!
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3117 Posts
March 13 2021 09:48 GMT
#38
Qualifed players for day 2
PianO
EffOrt
Mini
JyJ
Mong
7411_soso1
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
March 13 2021 09:49 GMT
#39
On March 13 2021 18:38 angryground wrote:
here's your new blood, i guess?


old name, think he qualified for asl before

anyway yeah its good
bracala
Profile Joined August 2019
95 Posts
March 13 2021 10:02 GMT
#40
6 more players! Who we miss from regular pros?
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1062 Posts
March 13 2021 10:10 GMT
#41
MIsO Soulkey free Mind Ample Barracks Stork YSC Horang2 Baxter Calm sacsri
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1458 Posts
March 13 2021 10:16 GMT
#42
The Qualifier is not on AfreecaTV's YouTube.
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland300 Posts
March 13 2021 10:29 GMT
#43
One more qualifier, right? Rooting for Khala!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4200 Posts
March 13 2021 10:50 GMT
#44
oh wow.. really interesting results, again! 7411_soso1 who this is? any aka?

Last qualifiers will be an epic battle.. many big names still not qualified.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1062 Posts
March 13 2021 11:45 GMT
#45
Super thrilled to see Mong in the RO24. Hoping he'll manage to handle the pressure and play to his true level;
I still see him as the 6th best T , probably ahead of the likes of ssak and piano, just slightly behind jyj and sorry, even if he doesnt practice as much as those guys.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2781 Posts
March 13 2021 11:54 GMT
#46
On March 13 2021 19:10 TornadoSteve wrote:
MIsO Soulkey free Mind Ample Barracks Stork YSC Horang2 Baxter Calm sacsri

And Hero

Personally I'd like to see Sea qualify rather than the likes of Barrack, Leta and Ample. Looks like he lost to Piano in the semi of group 2, so he came quite close despite barely playing the game anymore. I'm all for new blood but wouldn't it be cool if we can see big names like Sea, Last and Rain making a comeback.

AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
March 13 2021 12:03 GMT
#47
ahhh damn I was hoping to see Rain participate
Faker is the GOAT!
R3ubarks
Profile Joined April 2020
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-03-13 13:57:47
March 13 2021 13:56 GMT
#48
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Scan beat Dewalt
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
March 13 2021 14:16 GMT
#49
Dam the quals are really brutal, you can be good but need luck on your side as well. Especially when you draw a top pro in your group.

Hope Scan can qualify tomorrow!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4200 Posts
March 14 2021 08:52 GMT
#50
On March 13 2021 23:16 Dante08 wrote:
Dam the quals are really brutal, you can be good but need luck on your side as well. Especially when you draw a top pro in your group.

Hope Scan can qualify tomorrow!

yeah it's also weird that qualifiers are all bo3 while the ro24 is full bo1 so you can just bonk out of the tournament after 2 cheeses or rushes.. it's kinda silly but whatever.
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