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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 26 2020 10:50 GMT
#281
Welp, that was quick.

My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense.
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2609 Posts
April 26 2020 10:55 GMT
#282
The whole series felt like it was Light not playing up to par, as opposed to Zero playing brilliantly. Game 1 due to the map. Game 2 due to the poor SCV pull to stop the ling runby. Game 4 is due to the M&M being caught by the ling lurkers. The M&M didn't even manage to get a stim off. Ahhh, well. Better finals next time : P
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2107 Posts
April 26 2020 10:59 GMT
#283
On April 26 2020 19:50 EsportsJohn wrote:
Welp, that was quick.

My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense.


what a diplomatic way to say mutas are op
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 26 2020 11:08 GMT
#284
On April 26 2020 19:27 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2020 19:05 sixfour wrote:
- casually watch some youtube videos
- check subscriptions, see an extreme number of viewers for the pre show
- oh wait, afreeca has put it on earlier than the usual start time and i've had the first four sets spoiled, thanks a fucking bunch


The finals are always a little bit earlier, if anything they're 2 hours later this time than they normally are.


If it was significantly earlier like that, I'd at least have noticed as such on the upcoming events tab, rather than thinking "yep, that's normal enough", and the broadcast would be finished when I tried to look at it and I wouldn't be completely spoiled
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
April 26 2020 11:17 GMT
#285
On April 26 2020 19:55 chongu wrote:
The whole series felt like it was Light not playing up to par, as opposed to Zero playing brilliantly. Game 1 due to the map. Game 2 due to the poor SCV pull to stop the ling runby. Game 4 is due to the M&M being caught by the ling lurkers. The M&M didn't even manage to get a stim off. Ahhh, well. Better finals next time : P


Kinda hard to get stim off when you haven't actually completed the research yet
Just good mind games by Queen here, he really countered Light's style well, unfortunately didn't lead to any good games though, although the one Light won was somewhat exciting.
its me
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 26 2020 11:33 GMT
#286
On April 26 2020 19:50 EsportsJohn wrote:
Welp, that was quick.

My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense.


IKR? Especially how Light's valk micro is even better than God's (or so I was made to believe)...
gg no re thx
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 26 2020 11:36 GMT
#287
Congrats to ZerO! Deserving champ

I must say that the close-by-air spawns on Horizon is absolutely ridiculous, the Zerg can just keep making mutas and T is pinned to their base. At least that's what it looks like from a commoner's perspective.
Mine gas, build tanks.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 26 2020 11:54 GMT
#288
Was Zero's lurker bust strat on G4 similar to Action vs Flash (held barely due to star sense)?
gg no re thx
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
April 26 2020 12:07 GMT
#289
Wow I completely missed it somehow... -_-
Well deserved Zero!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3173 Posts
April 26 2020 12:17 GMT
#290
I was hoping for a more close series. Thought Light would put up more of a fight. Congrats to Queen on finally getting a premier tourney win.
Artosis loves Starcraft
mcgormack
Profile Joined March 2020
51 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-26 12:47:30
April 26 2020 12:46 GMT
#291
Flash vs anyone always feels like the ''real finals'' whenever he loses.

Congrats to Queen/Zero, that's a player who seemed to really come out of nowhere when it comes to ASL, his level of game sense is very impressive.
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
943 Posts
April 26 2020 13:02 GMT
#292
Damn, not a single close game.
:3
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-26 13:30:43
April 26 2020 13:30 GMT
#293
On April 26 2020 22:02 Starecat wrote:
Damn, not a single close game.


Light's win was somewhat close. I mean, yea in the end it wasn't close, but there were several points in that game where it could have gone another way. After the first 2 failed irridiates I thought Light might be in trouble, but he was not really. That counter from Queen that did absolutely 0 dmg, it seemed like that could have done more (I mean I'm sure it could've).

It was not a long game, but it was a game that at least felt like it was really a game and not just a game that could've only gone one way.
its me
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
April 26 2020 14:09 GMT
#294
muta is broken unit
including in zvz
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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-27 13:40:40
April 26 2020 14:37 GMT
#295
Hahahaha my man Zero with the mind games in Game 2 and Game 4 and domination of Light, after Light openly called Zero predictable!

Game 2: Edit: Not sure how Zero made it work and why Light was so greedy. Perhaps Light might want to play more greedily because Zero has a strong macro game?

Game 4: Somehow Zero knew Light would proxy a factory (someone please tell me, is it common to proxy a factory like that on Match Point?) and punished the Valk play by making it look like a double expand.

I admit he got lucky with the close spawn in Game 1 but it's Lights fault for going standard. Game 3 was well played by Light.

On April 26 2020 19:50 EsportsJohn wrote:
Welp, that was quick.

My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense.

I don't know about Game 5, perhaps Light made a mistake by suiciding the first 2 wraiths and only making 2 turrents at his nat?

I'm so happy for Zero/Queen for changing his style proving his critics wrong!

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Also check out this amazing vulture rush defense by Zero, using only drones:
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-04-26 14:43:44
April 26 2020 14:42 GMT
#296
So there is no need to have zerg favoured maps next season again right? Even Zero gets a tournament win xD time to switch to regular maps. (yeah yeah it was not only due to the maps today, but it certainly helped the course of the tournament).

Edit: Still, one of the best if not the best ASL I can remember, it only started to go somewhat wrong late in the Ro8 but still, most games were fun.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9436 Posts
April 26 2020 15:42 GMT
#297
Now I am watching Zero stream!
The donations are insaneeeee OMG !!!!
All the donations received today may equal the prize for winning ASL
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 26 2020 15:55 GMT
#298
On April 26 2020 23:42 KobraKay wrote:
So there is no need to have zerg favoured maps next season again right? Even Zero gets a tournament win xD time to switch to regular maps. (yeah yeah it was not only due to the maps today, but it certainly helped the course of the tournament).

Edit: Still, one of the best if not the best ASL I can remember, it only started to go somewhat wrong late in the Ro8 but still, most games were fun.

Zerg favored maps like Match Point, Sylphid or Hitchhiker?
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Freakling
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1534 Posts
April 26 2020 15:56 GMT
#299
On April 26 2020 23:37 JieXian wrote:Game 4: Somehow Zero knew Light would proxy a factory (someone please tell me, is it common to proxy a factory like that on Match Point?) and punished the Valk play by making it look like a double expand.

Not spotting any tech in the main certainly gave away that something ought to be up, so he sent Lings to scout around.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4411 Posts
April 26 2020 16:16 GMT
#300
He really does deeply deserve this title, and has for a long time.

So does Light... And many others. For people of their mastery levels to have only one major tournament is very sad in itself. I am happy that Flash moved aside for a bit, some of these pros are starving for a title for cryin' out loud.
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