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Caihead
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Deleted User 513418
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I predict Light 4-2. | ||
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Navane
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loppy2345
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On April 25 2020 16:52 nojok wrote: Light vs Zero sounds like a silly debate about coke. OMG THIS | ||
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Ej_
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On April 25 2020 16:52 nojok wrote: Light vs Zero sounds like a silly debate about coke. ProllTarodies please make this into a cheerful | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On April 25 2020 16:52 nojok wrote: Light vs Zero sounds like a silly debate about coke. It's actually a debate about choke | ||
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scooterTech
Australia44 Posts
On April 25 2020 17:10 GorillaPimp wrote: The rare perfect Final. Couldn't be happier no matter who wins, as long as the games are good! Both are amazing long-time silver medalist favorites. Couldn't agree more. I think I'll be hoping for a Zero victory, particularly as he had to defeat Flash to get here, but this is already a win-win scenario. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4195 Posts
Just want to see some epic Brood War being played. HYPE! | ||
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ssj114
Afghanistan461 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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RowdierBob
Australia13006 Posts
Hopefully we get a closer series above all else. It’d be disappointing if one the guys just chokes and we get only 4 or 5 pretty average games. | ||
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Ideas
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
Odd that Hitchhiker is the last map, though I guess if it gets that far we should just be prepared for a weird game! | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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ZakRoM
Costa Rica54 Posts
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Deleted User 513418
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His two-startport builds have been lethal all year. It's been used enough to be exposed by the Finals, though. I'll be wondering if Light busts it out, and if he does, if Zero is completely prepared or not. Instead, will he bring out a new surprise-in-its-decisiveness-but-completely-logical build? Not new new, as he's not that kind of player, but new as in recycling an old version of something, maybe putting in a tweak. ZerO, to be sure, is absolutely devastating vT (and vP). Is it my imagination or has he, too, become more decisive in attempting to stretch small advantages into larger ones? A lack of this killer instinct is, imo, what always held these two back. Being decisive also has the benefit of putting more stress on mechanical ability than psychological stress, which is a benefit to two previous habitual chokers. (However, the bias Light fan in me would argue Light does not choke so much as simply get outclassed. ZerO, chubby cheeks be damned, chokes.) That's my Light-focused preview. Anyone wanna counter with s ZerO-focused preview? 🤣 | ||
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
That being said I love both Zero and Light and won't be surprised if we get one of the most entertaining finals of all time out of this. | ||
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KenNage
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Wonk
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Justanotherguy88
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Master of DalK
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On April 26 2020 15:58 Master of DalK wrote: The twitter said 2AM EDT, some places said 3, says 4 on here and YT says 6 (usual). Which one is it orz 5 PM KST ![[image loading]](http://stimg.afreecatv.com/NORMAL_BBS/7/15524207/94035e95e5950e56c.PNG) | ||
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Ej_
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On April 26 2020 15:51 Justanotherguy88 wrote: Hey guys does anyone know of alternative streams maybe youtube or twitch links? Afreeca doesn't work well on my chromebook Youtube stream will be available, but the link is different every broadcast. Search youtube for ASL starcraft stream once the event begins. | ||
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Master of DalK
Canada1797 Posts
So 4AM EDT, cool ty! I wonder why their tweets and youtube advertising are all wrong though... | ||
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figq
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 26 2020 16:26 Master of DalK wrote: So 4AM EDT, cool ty! I wonder why their tweets and youtube advertising are all wrong though... this was posted a few days after Ro4, its possible the time has changed, when in doubt trust the casters. | ||
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polgas
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JieXian
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outscar
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P.S.: Writing from phone no electricity FML this is so great! Guess gonna watch VOD later. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
it was a major offline tournament, even if it was shit. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
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figq
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On April 26 2020 15:51 Justanotherguy88 wrote: Hey guys does anyone know of alternative streams maybe youtube or twitch links? Afreeca doesn't work well on my chromebook It's LIVE now! | ||
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Sawamura
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GTR
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:01 GTR wrote: no audience yet still have a band perform a pre-show? =/ the excitement in the venue is almost palpable | ||
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Burned Toast
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:03 Burned Toast wrote: Is it just just me or the guitar player was airplaying the whole time ? air guitar is more fun than actual guitar. | ||
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Motivate
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 he was always one of the meh terrans besides tvz | ||
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linestein
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diskovision
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Motivate
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Cres
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
Good morning ! Here in Romania is 11.24 in the morning! Let's go !!!! | ||
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polgas
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konadora
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fLyiNgDroNe
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EDIT: ofc i excluded 3rd place match on purpose! | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
Match strategy - I come from the potentially biased standpoint that Zerg is weaker than Terran in the current meta/maps. That said, I think the burden of innovation falls on Zero. Light is so solid, I can't imagine him changing his TvZ in a major way. My dream - I would love to somehow have one 3 hat before pool greed zerg and one 3 hat muta/ling, neither are really part of the current meta (unless I am wrong?) Very exciting! | ||
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:24 Cres wrote: Logging into TL after 8 years to cheer for Zero in a finals again Then you u must remember this thread ? https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/227133-how-to-draw-zero EDIT : JUST GOT MY QUEEN ICON, ITS a SIGN ! | ||
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konadora
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prosatan
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On April 26 2020 17:27 Burned Toast wrote: Then you u must remember this thread ? https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/227133-how-to-draw-zero EDIT : JUST GOT MY QUEEN ICON, ITS a SIGN ! IT IS A DIVINE SIGN !!! | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
should I actually believe him, how many times has he retired at this point | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
Muta harass incoming !! | ||
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Motivate
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TaardadAiel
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konadora
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staatbauhaus
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On April 26 2020 17:32 Elyvilon wrote: lol Flash saying he'll play random next time should I actually believe him, how many times has he retired at this point go say that to his face while you see how fucked up the scarring on his hands and arms are. Something that's hard to see on his webcam. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
Just like JD !! | ||
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Sawamura
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Motivate
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Ziggy
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On April 26 2020 17:35 TaardadAiel wrote: Those spawns :/ its ok, the maps wont have to be anti terran from now on, flash is switching to random | ||
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prosatan
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Ej_
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On April 26 2020 17:41 staatbauhaus wrote: go say that to his face while you see how fucked up the scarring on his hands and arms are. Something that's hard to see on his webcam. ye u wouldnt say to flashs face. he is jacked and he parties with the coolest people | ||
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Dante08
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:42 Dante08 wrote: Wow nice fake out from Zero building the queen's nest and hydra den, Light thought he was transitioning out but he went full muta. That's what I thought too. Light could have gone valks, but I'm not sure if he saw the tech buildings for Zerg before or after he made a science facility. | ||
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Motivate
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On April 26 2020 17:42 Ziggy wrote: its ok, the maps wont have to be anti terran from now on, flash is switching to random the map situation is pretty funny.. flash is so dominant that people see maps like fighting spirit or circuit breaker as being T favoured On April 26 2020 17:43 TaardadAiel wrote: That's what I thought too. Light could have gone valks, but I'm not sure if he saw the tech buildings for Zerg before or after he made a science facility. light was way too ambitious... dumb build to do with those spawns regardless of tech fake out or not | ||
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Katkishka
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:45 Katkishka wrote: Zero's micro was insanely good with the 2 groups, but that was a rather dull start to the series. Would Light have had a better chance if he went 3 rax instead of 2 rax, or do you really just need to go for valks in those spawns? you gotta turtle up, no point pushing and having lost that bunch of marines in the first place | ||
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RKC
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Psychonian
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:46 RKC wrote: What was Light's build? Why the quick SVs? the typical fast tech SK terran, but he botched the build by losing the marines when he tried to push out | ||
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GTR
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hyunkyung everyone else | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:46 RKC wrote: What was Light's build? Why the quick SVs? It's not that quick. It was 50% of the way at like 8:20 so normal timing. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:46 RKC wrote: What was Light's build? Why the quick SVs? That's a standard timing for 2 rax SV, he was trying to quickly tech to SVs to counter the mutas and move out but I believed he underestimated the number of mutas made by Zero and made too few turrets. | ||
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Geographer
United States185 Posts
Would two port wraith be viable strategy in that situation? | ||
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arbiter_md
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RKC
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:51 arbiter_md wrote: Zero did a nice job faking the transition, but that worked so well thanks to the spawn positions. Hopefully maps like these will go away forever. I was so caught up in the action I didn't see the rallied backup flock. He pump faked me too. | ||
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Ziggy
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Vindicare605
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On April 26 2020 17:55 Ziggy wrote: this was meant to be the easiest championship light could ever hope for wth Considering Zero just beat Flash in the same match up, I have a hard time understanding why anyone thought this was going to be "easy." I expected a Zero win, but not like this. | ||
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polgas
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Motivate
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can i just have a macro game | ||
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Doughboy
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
Is Zero just playing normal and Light is playing bad? or is Zero playing really good? I am leaning towards the former. | ||
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Psychonian
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ggsimida
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L W O G H | ||
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reincremate
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staatbauhaus
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If light is to take game 3 he has a good chance at a championship win. | ||
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Ziggy
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Geographer
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:59 Ziggy wrote: this is turning out to be anything but the cherry on top of the ro8 + ro4 bonanza we had this season This is the pineapple on the pizza, the cheese on top of the apple pie. It just doesn't belong and it is not wanted. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
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On April 26 2020 17:59 bovienchien wrote: T E S A G I lol | ||
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staatbauhaus
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On April 26 2020 17:58 AttackZerg wrote: I am confused - seeking opinions. Is Zero just playing normal and Light is playing bad? or is Zero playing really good? I am leaning towards the former. Queen is playing a style he rarely plays. This build recommendation was made by Flash during practice. | ||
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bovienchien
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On April 26 2020 17:58 staatbauhaus wrote: Before the games started Flash, Larva, and Soma predicted Queen will take the first 3 games due to maps and Light should take the latter games if he can make it. If light is to take game 3 he has a good chance at a championship win. What wrong with 3 first games? | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
On April 26 2020 17:58 staatbauhaus wrote: Before the games started Flash, Larva, and Soma predicted Queen will take the first 3 games due to maps and Light should take the latter games if he can make it. If light is to take game 3 he has a good chance at a championship win. Really? I would think Sylphid is ok for Terran | ||
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prosatan
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staatbauhaus
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I am not too sure, they just said first 3 map is good for Queen. I don't have information why they are good though. | ||
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RKC
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On April 26 2020 17:58 staatbauhaus wrote: Before the games started Flash, Larva, and Soma predicted Queen will take the first 3 games due to maps and Light should take the latter games if he can make it. If light is to take game 3 he has a good chance at a championship win. What's special about Escalade that would make it Zerg-favoured? | ||
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att
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On April 26 2020 18:00 staatbauhaus wrote: Queen is playing a style he rarely plays. This build recommendation was made by Flash during practice. Wait, Zero had FLASH as his practice partner for the finals? Mind isBLOWN. I tought flash would prefer the money flow he gets from streaming instead of helping Zero without streaming | ||
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Motivate
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On April 26 2020 18:02 TaardadAiel wrote: Terran is 0-5, this game included, on Sylphid vs Zerg this season. cant really see a reason why the map is zerg favoured though | ||
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Psychonian
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Doughboy
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staatbauhaus
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On April 26 2020 18:02 att wrote: Wait, Zero had FLASH as his practice partner for the finals? Mind isBLOWN. I tought flash would prefer the money flow he gets from streaming instead of helping Zero without streaming yea he helped him prep for finals and even gave him the all in ling build! | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:05 staatbauhaus wrote: yea he helped him prep for finals and even gave him the all in ling build! that wasn't a ling all in lol he had mutas aggression and punishing greedy af expoes != all in | ||
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Ej_
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It was very much all-in... 11 drones mutalisks is not a macro build | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:07 Ej_ wrote: It was very much all-in... 11 drones mutalisks is not a macro build it sure isn't but it's clearly not all in as well if you're getting mutas. | ||
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staatbauhaus
99 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:06 Garrl wrote: that wasn't a ling all in lol he had mutas aggression and punishing greedy af expoes != all in my bad i didnt mean all in i meant he could nonstop push with all in ling speeds if the first set of lings enter terran base. | ||
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prosatan
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AttackZerg
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Dangermousecatdog
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Edit: I guess so what with that overlord over the 2 lurker stack. Light just goes back and sit in middle of map. | ||
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Incomplete..ReV
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Zero's Game 1 was hella smart, though. Hoping to get a good series now :D | ||
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BerserkSword
United States2123 Posts
thank Flash BW is still delivering while sc2 is falling off a cliff imo | ||
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staatbauhaus
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Light must have been a beast during practice on this map | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:07 Ej_ wrote: It was very much all-in... 11 drones mutalisks is not a macro build Not really, if Light defended properly Zero would have stopped making Lings, he only massed Lings due to the first group sneaking in. If Light had defended the initial wave Zero would only be a few drones behind which is not really a big deal as the muta harass can make up for it. Zergs have optimized their builds so well now that they can follow up with proper builds after mass lings. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 26 2020 18:25 staatbauhaus wrote: han doo yul (dont know his id) : Light gonna win Match Point guaranteed. Light must have been a beast during practice on this map han doo yul is  MIsO | ||
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konadora
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ok but light also stopped and reissued construction order to force it to move quickly smart play by light | ||
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konadora
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SO BRILLIANT | ||
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Miragee
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On April 26 2020 18:37 Miragee wrote: Not feeling good for Zero. That front looks unbustable. Errr ok, or Light just moves out and loses everything. | ||
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Empyrean
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On April 26 2020 18:35 GTR wrote: holy shit that scv rng Pretty sure Light canceled real fast and then set it to build again once it was on top of the factory. | ||
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Justanotherguy88
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On April 26 2020 18:37 Miragee wrote: Not feeling good for Zero. That front looks unbustable. lol | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:40 Geographer wrote: I'm rooting for Zero to win but I want a good series. So far we've had one good game out of four. That last game was actually very good, ZerO just outsmarted him. It was good because of how well ZerO read him - he saw the gas, he thought "hey why do you have 1 rax and gas" and went looking for a factory; then he switched his build around really well and I suppose he knew the timing of Light's push, too. | ||
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polgas
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/o0udZQ3.png) | ||
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:44 polgas wrote: big oof | ||
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Katkishka
United States649 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:43 TaardadAiel wrote: That last game was actually very good, ZerO just outsmarted him. It was good because of how well ZerO read him - he saw the gas, he thought "hey why do you have 1 rax and gas" and went looking for a factory; then he switched his build around really well and I suppose he knew the timing of Light's push, too. Seems like the best way to beat Zero's mindgames is to not participate and play standard. Although I guess that didn't really work in game 2... | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:46 Puosu wrote: Did he forget stim or is it just late with this build? With the valk build your stim is late, Light wanted to push out just before stim finished and obviously did not expect lurkers. | ||
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RKC
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Ej_
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On April 26 2020 18:50 RKC wrote: Zero plays ZvT like ZvP... Is his ZvP also tricky and mindfking? No, he just masses hydralisks there. | ||
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konadora
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staatbauhaus
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On April 26 2020 18:52 konadora wrote: wtf 3 star yea Flash was saying T is funneled into playing 14cc 3 star or center 14cc build on this map | ||
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Ej_
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On April 26 2020 18:52 konadora wrote: wtf 3 star Standard followup to 14cc if you want to go wraith on land maps so it should be natural on islands too. | ||
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Ej_
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On April 26 2020 18:55 CruelZeratul wrote: Why is the CC on Lights natural so off center? It seems it should be closer to the geysir. Why isn't it (Inner Coven map)? every expansion is blocked with a cloaked plate initially, Zero destroyed his before exping because of OL detection | ||
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Norway633 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
WP and Grats to Zero. | ||
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Russian Federation3209 Posts
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Miragee
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On April 26 2020 18:56 konadora wrote: that muta spread holy shit That was pretty sick! Yay Zero, finally! | ||
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Brazil3409 Posts
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Geographer
United States185 Posts
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South Africa1848 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
Looking forward to next season! | ||
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Geographer
United States185 Posts
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razorsuKe
Canada2000 Posts
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Phrogs!
Japan521 Posts
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Cres
United States227 Posts
This tournament really made beautiful moments for him as a professional player. He got his redemption against Flash for the MSL finals and finally lifts the trophy after over 10 years of SC. | ||
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Garrl
Scotland1972 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:57 Geographer wrote: This was one of the most disappointing ASL championships ever. flash vs snow still takes the cake. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7454 Posts
I didn't really enjoy the finals, but Queen beat the two best TvZ's in the world back to back. Really wish I got to see one 30 minute lategame war. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:59 Geographer wrote: ASL's producers need to pick macro-oriented maps in the future. To be honest, it was fairly balanced in that regard. Most of the maps are macro-oriented maps and it's also good to have a map like Hitchhiker in there although in this case Hitchhiker is just not a good map imho. | ||
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Cush
United States646 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
At least there was a storyline to that season, Flash owning protosses in the knockout and cementing himself as the undisputed greatest of all time. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:02 Miragee wrote: To be honest, it was fairly balanced in that regard. Most of the maps are macro-oriented maps and it's also good to have a map like Hitchhiker in there although in this case Hitchhiker is just not a good map imho. Honestly, Hitchhiker produced the best or one of the best games for the last few series | ||
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GTR
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
- check subscriptions, see an extreme number of viewers for the pre show - oh wait, afreeca has put it on earlier than the usual start time and i've had the first four sets spoiled, thanks a fucking bunch | ||
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Geographer
United States185 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4195 Posts
this final was a huge dud.. but I'm kinda happy for ZerO, that he finally won something big  well deserved, GGs | ||
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att
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:05 sixfour wrote: - casually watch some youtube videos - check subscriptions, see an extreme number of viewers for the pre show - oh wait, afreeca has put it on earlier than the usual start time and i've had the first four sets spoiled, thanks a fucking bunch SAME =( | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4195 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:59 ne4aJIb wrote: semifinals were epic. the rest is so so quarters and semis were amazing 3rd place and grand final were both duds | ||
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polgas
Canada1752 Posts
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:04 M2 wrote: Honestly, Hitchhiker produced the best or one of the best games for the last few series Yes? Which one... Anyways, there will always be outlier games. From what I have seen of the map so far it would turn out to be massively imbalanced in the long run though once it gets figured out. | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4116 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: I don't mind a new era of zerg dominance, since its not protoss. why would anyone mind a protoss era or at least partial success? The historically worst successful race, with significantly fewer titles and achievements than both Terran and Zerg. People really enjoying the mostly bipolar (two races) BW model? | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:09 M2 wrote: why would anyone mind a protoss era or at least partial success? The historically worst successful race, with significantly fewer titles and achievements than both Terran and Zerg. People really enjoying the mostly bipolar (two races) BW model? yeah protoss has historically struggled, but also, fuck protoss. Edit:I was just messing around, don't know why you decided to take that statement seriously. | ||
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att
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Geographer
United States185 Posts
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att
128 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:09 M2 wrote: why would anyone mind a protoss era or at least partial success? The historically worst successful race, with significantly fewer titles and achievements than both Terran and Zerg. People really enjoying the mostly bipolar (two races) BW model? Yeah next season protoss season would be kinda cool, but they need island maps, tight gateway+forge walled nats, and 15 mineral patches in the main to be viable. So yeah fat chance of mapmakers actually balancing out the maps to favour protoss. I guess we can hope but mostly tough luck for protoss since we already know next seasons maps and theyre not protoss favoured from the looks of things. | ||
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Delial1986
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:05 sixfour wrote: - casually watch some youtube videos - check subscriptions, see an extreme number of viewers for the pre show - oh wait, afreeca has put it on earlier than the usual start time and i've had the first four sets spoiled, thanks a fucking bunch The finals are always a little bit earlier, if anything they're 2 hours later this time than they normally are. | ||
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Czech Republic528 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1023 Posts
On April 26 2020 18:58 att wrote: MY BOY WE DID IT. WE FINALLY DID IT ZERO WE DID IT MY BOY OMG WE ARE A CHAMP NOW. WE AREALLY DID IT, WE ARE ATHE PRO ZERG NOW!!!! Family member? Irl friend? | ||
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imBLIND
United States2626 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense. | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2585 Posts
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:50 EsportsJohn wrote: Welp, that was quick. My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense. what a diplomatic way to say mutas are op | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:27 Qikz wrote: The finals are always a little bit earlier, if anything they're 2 hours later this time than they normally are. If it was significantly earlier like that, I'd at least have noticed as such on the upcoming events tab, rather than thinking "yep, that's normal enough", and the broadcast would be finished when I tried to look at it and I wouldn't be completely spoiled | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:55 chongu wrote: The whole series felt like it was Light not playing up to par, as opposed to Zero playing brilliantly. Game 1 due to the map. Game 2 due to the poor SCV pull to stop the ling runby. Game 4 is due to the M&M being caught by the ling lurkers. The M&M didn't even manage to get a stim off. Ahhh, well. Better finals next time : P Kinda hard to get stim off when you haven't actually completed the research yet  Just good mind games by Queen here, he really countered Light's style well, unfortunately didn't lead to any good games though, although the one Light won was somewhat exciting. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On April 26 2020 19:50 EsportsJohn wrote: Welp, that was quick. My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense. IKR? Especially how Light's valk micro is even better than God's (or so I was made to believe)... | ||
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Akio
Finland1838 Posts
I must say that the close-by-air spawns on Horizon is absolutely ridiculous, the Zerg can just keep making mutas and T is pinned to their base. At least that's what it looks like from a commoner's perspective. | ||
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RKC
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VioleTAK
4315 Posts
Well deserved Zero! | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3095 Posts
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mcgormack
51 Posts
Congrats to Queen/Zero, that's a player who seemed to really come out of nowhere when it comes to ASL, his level of game sense is very impressive. | ||
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937 Posts
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On April 26 2020 22:02 Starecat wrote: Damn, not a single close game. Light's win was somewhat close. I mean, yea in the end it wasn't close, but there were several points in that game where it could have gone another way. After the first 2 failed irridiates I thought Light might be in trouble, but he was not really. That counter from Queen that did absolutely 0 dmg, it seemed like that could have done more (I mean I'm sure it could've). It was not a long game, but it was a game that at least felt like it was really a game and not just a game that could've only gone one way. | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Game 2: Edit: Not sure how Zero made it work and why Light was so greedy. Perhaps Light might want to play more greedily because Zero has a strong macro game? Game 4: Somehow Zero knew Light would proxy a factory (someone please tell me, is it common to proxy a factory like that on Match Point?) and punished the Valk play by making it look like a double expand. I admit he got lucky with the close spawn in Game 1 but it's Lights fault for going standard. Game 3 was well played by Light. On April 26 2020 19:50 EsportsJohn wrote: Welp, that was quick. My brain is still mindfucked by how Light can open 3-port and still just die outright to a muta attack. I need to rewatch that and analyze it because it makes no goddamn sense. I don't know about Game 5, perhaps Light made a mistake by suiciding the first 2 wraiths and only making 2 turrents at his nat? I'm so happy for Zero/Queen for changing his style proving his critics wrong! ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/EXgbY13.png) Also check out this amazing vulture rush defense by Zero, using only drones: | ||
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KobraKay
Portugal4231 Posts
Edit: Still, one of the best if not the best ASL I can remember, it only started to go somewhat wrong late in the Ro8 but still, most games were fun. | ||
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prosatan
Romania8025 Posts
The donations are insaneeeee OMG !!!! All the donations received today may equal the prize for winning ASL | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 26 2020 23:42 KobraKay wrote: So there is no need to have zerg favoured maps next season again right? Even Zero gets a tournament win xD time to switch to regular maps. (yeah yeah it was not only due to the maps today, but it certainly helped the course of the tournament). Edit: Still, one of the best if not the best ASL I can remember, it only started to go somewhat wrong late in the Ro8 but still, most games were fun. Zerg favored maps like Match Point, Sylphid or Hitchhiker? | ||
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Freakling
Germany1529 Posts
On April 26 2020 23:37 JieXian wrote:Game 4: Somehow Zero knew Light would proxy a factory (someone please tell me, is it common to proxy a factory like that on Match Point?) and punished the Valk play by making it look like a double expand. Not spotting any tech in the main certainly gave away that something ought to be up, so he sent Lings to scout around. | ||
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VioleTAK
4315 Posts
So does Light... And many others. For people of their mastery levels to have only one major tournament is very sad in itself. I am happy that Flash moved aside for a bit, some of these pros are starving for a title for cryin' out loud. | ||
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
On April 26 2020 23:37 JieXian wrote: Hahahaha my man Zero with the mind games in Game 2 and Game 4 and domination of Light, after Light openly called Zero predictable! Game 2: No one expected the weird hatch->gas->pool but not getting speed first, resulting in an early ling speed but delayed compared to speed first after a hatch->gas->pool. That's why there was no reason (from Light's perspective) to expect ling speed to kick in at such a weird early timing at Sylphid and hence there was not a need bring the SCVs because there was no need to worry about serious ling aggression kicking in until a bit later. Somehow Zero managed to hide and disguise it beautifully. Perhaps he knows Light might want to play more greedily because Zero has a strong macro game? Game 4: Somehow Zero knew Light would proxy a factory (someone please tell me, is it common to proxy a factory like that on Match Point?) and punished the Valk play by making it look like a double expand. I admit he got lucky with the close spawn in Game 1 but it's Lights fault for going standard. Game 3 was well played by Light. I don't know about Game 5, perhaps Light made a mistake by suiciding the first 2 wraiths and only making 2 turrents at his nat? I'm so happy for Zero/Queen for changing his style proving his critics wrong! Also check out this amazing vulture rush defense by Zero, using only drones: https://youtu.be/zxXazHFXs6M?t=3967 I am pretty sure that Light knew exactly at what time ling speed kicks in, since he scouted him early on. He simply did not anticipate a runby and that killed him. In game 4 Zero knew something was up when his overlord scouted the early gas and an otherwise empty base. It was a good reaction to what he scouted. | ||
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appcer
3 Posts
On April 26 2020 23:37 JieXian wrote: Hahahaha my man Zero with the mind games in Game 2 and Game 4 and domination of Light, after Light openly called Zero predictable! Game 4: Somehow Zero knew Light would proxy a factory (someone please tell me, is it common to proxy a factory like that on Match Point?) and punished the Valk play by making it look like a double expand. He moved his overlord to see Light have all 3 SCV mining gas and see no fac on the top half of the main base (place Terran usually place fac cause vulture can rally faster). Still not sure how he knew about the Val | ||
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VGhost
United States3613 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 27 2020 01:16 VioleTAK wrote: He really does deeply deserve this title, and has for a long time. So does Light... And many others. For people of their mastery levels to have only one major tournament is very sad in itself. I am happy that Flash moved aside for a bit, some of these pros are starving for a title for cryin' out loud. Light has just won KSL? | ||
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On April 27 2020 00:56 Freakling wrote: Not spotting any tech in the main certainly gave away that something ought to be up, so he sent Lings to scout around. Zero spotted the gas and no factory up top in the base. In that case chances are at least there that there is a hidden factory being build somewhere on the map and you should scout around with your lings, which is exactly what zero did immediately after seeing the gas. | ||
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hasuprotoss
United States4612 Posts
Congrats to Zero, though. It was obvious that he was better prepared than Light and he made sure to put his foot on Light's throat whenever the opportunity presented itself. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10673 Posts
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Sonic_md
Moldova275 Posts
ZerO deserved this titul in this final, Light was so standard boy. Action gogo next ASL is your)) | ||
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Brazil7469 Posts
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Starecat
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AppleTank
United States5 Posts
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 27 2020 05:51 AppleTank wrote: Is Terran's best option on Coven against mass Zerg air is mass Valkyrie? Or could Terran have done something else? Someone earlier in the thread said that FlaSh actually had gone 14cc 3port wraith very very often vs Zero on this map when they practiced for the finals and ZerO struggled to deal with it. Seems like Light simply played overall worse. | ||
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United States342 Posts
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srj
Canada134 Posts
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reincremate
China2213 Posts
On April 27 2020 07:41 Plume wrote: Wow that looked so different than Light's game vs Soma. Great play by ZerO (and path, beating FlaSh!!). Though the final games might have not have been close, ASL9 will hold a place in my heart for the unreal Ro8 and Ro4 games they produced. My thoughts as well. As anticlimactic as this finals was, we should be grateful to have had the tight games of the Ro8 and Ro4 (or at least the Light vs Soma match). Even as a Flash fan still a bit sad about his loss to Zero, I have to say this was the best ASL overall we've had so far. | ||
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AuRevoir
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On April 27 2020 00:56 Freakling wrote: Not spotting any tech in the main certainly gave away that something ought to be up, so he sent Lings to scout around. and @Cryoc, @appcer @Miragee: Ah got it, thanks for the replies guys! Now it seems less magical and more straightforward haha Also I was pleasantly surprised when Tastetosis pointed out that Inner Coven was actually made by you, that's amazing! On April 27 2020 07:12 Ej_ wrote: Someone earlier in the thread said that FlaSh actually had gone 14cc 3port wraith very very often vs Zero on this map when they practiced for the finals and ZerO struggled to deal with it. Seems like Light simply played overall worse. Can't blame Light for not being Flash :D After the semis, Artosis took down many notes and tried to make the valk build work too. But he eventually gave up after failing terribly, saying "I'll let the pros figure this one out." Not that I'm equating Light to Artosis haha On April 27 2020 01:19 Cryoc wrote: I am pretty sure that Light knew exactly at what time ling speed kicks in, since he scouted him early on. He simply did not anticipate a runby and that killed him. Oh you're right that Light scouted the hatch->gas->pool, thanks for pointing that out. | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
ZerO you monster, killing best terrans left and right. Ppl been hyping Soulkey too much lately but for me I always felt ZerO was better than others and this season he showed that he can be the best. Light showed poor performance. I don't even know what to say, maybe he was too overconfident? All games he lost were early ones, his early game was questionable. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
Hitchhiker game was fun and probably the highlight of the night for me due to the late game we got. Game 4 was a mind game from ZerO. Can't fully blame light although he should've scouted around for this because we've been seeing more lurker busts in TvZ. It's not that hard to move a couple of marines out to clear zerglings away for an SCV to scout at least close to his exp. Had he noticed even second earlier, he could've retreated back and tried to defend (likely lost, but not in this manner!). Don't even get me started on Inner Coven. While I enjoyed some of the games on it (Light vs ForGG and ZerO vs Rush for ins) and think the concept is interesting (props to freakling), I can't help but feel disdain that this was the decider map. I was hoping we get into polypoid and get a nice macro game >< On April 27 2020 22:33 JieXian wrote: and @Cryoc, @appcer @Miragee: Ah got it, thanks for the replies guys! Now it seems less magical and more straightforward haha Also I was pleasantly surprised when Tastetosis pointed out that Inner Coven was actually made by you, that's amazing! That's like, common knowledge around here. Do you even TL? On April 27 2020 22:33 JieXian wrote: Can't blame Light for not being Flash :D After the semis, Artosis took down many notes and tried to make the valk build work too. But he eventually gave up after failing terribly, saying "I'll let the pros figure this one out." Not that I'm equating Light to Artosis haha I may have misread, but I believe the comment posted was that ZerO got a lot of practice against the build in practice. I think Light kinda threw in the towel in the last game. He didn't really put up much of a fight against the mutas, complete stomp but I personally like the valk build. I think it's always nice to see an old build resurface in this era. On April 27 2020 22:33 JieXian wrote: Oh you're right that Light scouted the hatch->gas->pool, thanks for pointing that out. I've been saying this for a long time, but zergs need to be more aggressive and try for these runbys because a lot of the time, terrans won't even expect it. It works wonders. That game 2 made me mad though. Light may not have anticipated the runby, however, the possibility was always there and his bunker was sitting with no chokes on either side. I've seen this situation play out way too much and maybe it's because the zerg deemed it risky, but ZerO knew that light expanded without getting a marine first and he had a low count which might have also prompted the runby too. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On April 28 2020 03:12 BigFan wrote: I may have misread, but I believe the comment posted was that ZerO got a lot of practice against the build in practice. I think Light kinda threw in the towel in the last game. He didn't really put up much of a fight against the mutas, complete stomp but I personally like the valk build. I think it's always nice to see an old build resurface in this era. I think you've misunderstood because I was joking that Zero struggled to win Flash in practise against 3port but he dominated Light, because Light is no Flash. On April 28 2020 03:12 BigFan wrote: I've been saying this for a long time, but zergs need to be more aggressive and try for these runbys because a lot of the time, terrans won't even expect it. It works wonders. That game 2 made me mad though. Light may not have anticipated the runby, however, the possibility was always there and his bunker was sitting with no chokes on either side. I've seen this situation play out way too much and maybe it's because the zerg deemed it risky, but ZerO knew that light expanded without getting a marine first and he had a low count which might have also prompted the runby too. The problem about playing aggressively as Zerg is that it's very risky and you stand to lose like an idiot if T is prepared for it and repairs the bunker while your army melts, like all the games I've seen of people trying to allin Flash when he goes 1-1-1 :/ | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2933 Posts
Props to Zero nonetheless. It was nice to see very decisive play from him. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
On April 28 2020 04:57 oshibori_probe wrote: Watching that hitchhiker game made me really nostalgic for guys like Casy. Unit control as a whole seems a lot better now but it seems like marine vs lurker micro in small numbers has really regressed. Props to Zero nonetheless. It was nice to see very decisive play from him. Ya it has regressed but in favor of better macro and/or multi-pronged attacks. I actually think early stimmed marine vs zergling micro could be much better as well, but maybe pros don't believe it is worth it. Plus we barely see those engagements anyway. | ||
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GummyZerg
United States277 Posts
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RKC
2848 Posts
Maybe that's why top players rely more on mind-games and build order trickery instead of mechanics in long macro games? | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 28 2020 11:05 RKC wrote: With the disbandment of team houses and smaller pool, top players are practising more against each other than during the KeSPA era. So the environment is like one giant team house. And team kill matches always get weird. Maybe that's why top players rely more on mind-games and build order trickery instead of mechanics in long macro games? Not necessarily that, but the players nowadays have very comparable macro compared to the old days. Flash mentioned it in one of his interviews. I'll edit when I find it. | ||
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Mazer
Canada1086 Posts
Great tourney overall though. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On April 28 2020 11:17 BigFan wrote: Not necessarily that, but the players nowadays have very comparable macro compared to the old days. Flash mentioned it in one of his interviews. I'll edit when I find it. If I remember rightly from one of his videos he said mechanics wise they're not as crisp as they used to be and when asked if he and old flash fought who would win he said that he would, but if you gave old Flash a little bit of preperation time he'd probably win due to being mechanically better. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 28 2020 17:02 Qikz wrote: If I remember rightly from one of his videos he said mechanics wise they're not as crisp as they used to be and when asked if he and old flash fought who would win he said that he would, but if you gave old Flash a little bit of preperation time he'd probably win due to being mechanically better. Nothing that you said is in direct conflict with what I wrote lol. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 28 2020 18:23 BigFan wrote: Nothing that you said is in direct conflict with what I wrote lol. You said players nowadays have "very comparable macro" to 10 years ago. Unless macroing does not involve mechanics, FlaSh's words do contradict yours. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 28 2020 19:21 Ej_ wrote: You said players nowadays have "very comparable macro" to 10 years ago. Unless macroing does not involve mechanics, FlaSh's words do contradict yours. comparable to each other is what was meant by my statement, not to 10 years ago. The poster I replied to was asking about the pros and their reliance on mind games nowadays so players having a similar level of macro to each other means mind games will play a bigger role than years ago when mechanics were being refined and differed greatly from one player to the next. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On April 28 2020 17:02 Qikz wrote: If I remember rightly from one of his videos he said mechanics wise they're not as crisp as they used to be and when asked if he and old flash fought who would win he said that he would, but if you gave old Flash a little bit of preperation time he'd probably win due to being mechanically better. Forget about random. Flash 2010 v Flash 2020 - that's the real deal! Now, if only Skynet can get their time machine to work... His comment seem a bit ambiguous though. Is he saying that new Flash is trickier and his mind games now can prevail over the superior mechanics of old Flash? And that preparation time (coupled with raw mechanics) can overcome any surprise builds and special tactics? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On April 28 2020 19:43 RKC wrote: Forget about random. Flash 2010 v Flash 2020 - that's the real deal! Now, if only Skynet can get their time machine to work... His comment seem a bit ambiguous though. Is he saying that new Flash is trickier and his mind games now can prevail over the superior mechanics of old Flash? And that preparation time (coupled with raw mechanics) can overcome any surprise builds and special tactics? IIRC what FlaSh originally said in the interview when asked about self vs KeSPA FlaSh was that the modern FlaSh would win the initial games up until the FlaSh of the past caught up with the metagame advancements and started winning comfortably through better mechanics. | ||
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Miragee
8509 Posts
On April 28 2020 19:43 RKC wrote: Forget about random. Flash 2010 v Flash 2020 - that's the real deal! Now, if only Skynet can get their time machine to work... His comment seem a bit ambiguous though. Is he saying that new Flash is trickier and his mind games now can prevail over the superior mechanics of old Flash? And that preparation time (coupled with raw mechanics) can overcome any surprise builds and special tactics? No, game knowledge has progressed and people nowadays know more details about the game than they knew back then. Hence, strategies, build orders, maneuvering of fights etc. is more advanced so old Flash would need some time to catch up knowledge-wise. If he did, he would be better because old-Flash's mechanics were better than his mechanics now (which is true for pretty much every korean pro). | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden305 Posts
I do miss the more narrow build order options and almost flawless execution of the later KESPA-days. And it feels a bit, hmm, not sure if I can find the right word, but maybe unsatisfactory that the majority of the games to watch is streams. I wish there was more organized competitive play than sponmatches on streams etc. Now that KSL is no more it feels a bit empty with only the ASL, the seasons don't feel long enough to really see the game develop. There are to few games to see the meta evolve on maps like Hitchhiker etc. Still, I am so damn happy that we still have Broodwar 22 years after it was released, I was 15 when I started playing it and it is still around, truly the most timeless game ever made. | ||
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ILoveStats
6 Posts
I hope I can post a link here? Soon I will also add winnings in the ASL play off phase and Z / T / P wins. | ||
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2037 Posts
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
On May 24 2020 16:05 ILoveStats wrote: Hey guys. I know you like stats, so do i. I made a video about ASL. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJV7ShPXp7I I hope I can post a link here? Soon I will also add winnings in the ASL play off phase and Z / T / P wins. we do like stats! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://liquipedia.net/commons/images/e/ef/Stats.jpg) | ||
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On May 24 2020 18:14 Cryoc wrote: Nice idea, but the video recording is pretty laggy, so it is not very enjoyable to watch. Thank you for feedback. Unfortunately, as long as I can only upload videos in this quality. After some time I will try to do reupload without lags. | ||
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On May 24 2020 21:08 kogeT wrote: An interesting idea but it goes too slow, not clear on at which data point we are and video is stuttering so much. Thank you for feedback. You mean you don't know which season we're after? | ||
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Unfortunately, Stats did not participate in the ASL. Stats of Stats would be statsception. ;-) | ||
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Still low APM guys, sorry. ;-) Is this the reason Flash will choose "random"? | ||
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On June 01 2020 06:23 GorillaPimp wrote: Why are you spamming dude? I find the info mildy interesting. | ||
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