[STPL] S2 Showmatch + Announcement - iRk vs vT Bo7

On August 26 2019 20:27 BisuDagger wrote:

Until you are elite enough, you are just a number in Korea.

On August 26 2019 22:01 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
so "vT" is actually "Wico" clan..?

Idk if I like that.. Actually I KNOW that I don't like that at all.. What's the point of calling yourself "vT" when your whole lineup consists of mercs from a korean clan?

wrong direction

On August 27 2019 04:21 sfca wrote:


Actually most of the players are form Wico, but there are some of others teams too.. so they all became vT.. but it’s ok if you don’t like it, we will just try to make a good competition,
Gl :D

On August 27 2019 07:30 dM-White wrote:


So its vt a team then? seems like a lot of random players from random koreans teams just joining vt name tag one time a week for play one league, this makes me sick when random players who doesnt wanna to be full in a team only joins it to play a TEAM league and win some money they doesnt care about the team or their members, i dont know if this is the case, if they are good or not and honestly i dont care, but in my point of view this kills the spirit of a TEAM league.

On August 27 2019 08:38 ash.Game wrote:
how does this kill the spirit of a TEAM league. White look at SouL) / [WHITE] / for example. they're all Korean lineups so stop complaining. We just wanted more competition to the top teams of the league. with our addition of wico- we now have a chance

On August 27 2019 07:30 dM-White wrote:


So its vt a team then? seems like a lot of random players from random koreans teams just joining vt name tag one time a week for play one league, this makes me sick when random players who doesnt wanna to be full in a team only joins it to play a TEAM league and win some money they doesnt care about the team or their members, i dont know if this is the case, if they are good or not and honestly i dont care, but in my point of view this kills the spirit of a TEAM league.

On August 27 2019 22:52 FakeFin wrote:
If they're only mercenaries who play in stpl for the money, why would they participate in a showmatch?
They're just players who love the game just as much as we do, so why should they be not allowed to play? Being korean doesn't make you better, they all just worked really hard to become so good

On August 28 2019 01:25 XenOsky wrote:
time for dM- to merge with Ever) mb we can get JyJ and Modesty to play as dM-... That would be interesting given the fact that our line up roflstomps wico everytime we play in a league.

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WHITE is a korean clan, since 1999, they entered this league as a Korean clan...
SouL is a team, not a clan, Fuji runs it like a bussiness, he pays these koreans to play for him wearing the SouL tag even in ASL.
vT is a Mexican clan, that registered as mexican, and now is using his contact with Wico to maybe win a league under their name, cuz their main foreigner roster can not win shit. if any Wico members qualified for ASL or KSL i dont think they will be wearing the vT- tag on the stage.

that my friend is the difference between vT, SouL and WHITE.

On August 28 2019 01:41 XenOsky wrote:


just like you are worth no points when i beat you in ladder everytime we play...

im not saying that, you can run your clan anyway you want, im just stating the fact that these players have zero interest in being a part of vT, (except maybe cRosSy) they are doing this just because there is some money involved, which is fine as long as qikz allows it.



^ MY POINT, and the main reason why i never even thought of telling any Ever member to be a part of dM for STPL, if Ever want to participate in STPL they should be playing as Ever)( , just like WHITE is doing...

On August 28 2019 03:47 Qikz wrote:
Just to clarify STPL is and always will be a global teamleague. Last season WHITE joined with their full korean roster + Telecom and while everyone thought they would win every series they didn't. SouL also had a relatively strong korean lineup as well, but also lost series also.

Koreans are not unbeatable and teams such as iRk and NW proved last season that it's more than possible to do it. STPL will always be a tournament about preperation, organisation from the teams and strategic thinking to take down players. ReV didn't perform the best last season in terms of overall victories, but Madinho stepped up and not only took a TvT off of ByuL he also took a TvZ vs Spire. Other players also had similar successes and their success stories formed a fabric of what lead to be the entire storyline of STPL Season 1.

vT joined up with WiCo to compete as one clan in this season and while I hear why didn't WiCo sign up as themselves, yes they could've done but then it might be harder to have an interface between them and myself. WHITECLAN's leader GyRo has relatively good English and if he can't deal with something someone else in WHITE (NyamNam) is practically fluent so he deals with everything else. By joining together with vT they find that interface with Crossy and the other vT leadership and it allows them all to focus on playing together and improving together.

One of my strongest goals with STPL was to bridge the gap between the Korean and non Korean StarCraft scenes and with how well all the foreign teams did last year against WHITE and SouL and how much the players in WHITE enjoyed themselves and wanted to get more involved I am happy to say I plan to continue that goal into season 2. I want the scenes to coexist together, I want to give people from all areas a chance to play in the STPL and I want to show more koreans that there's a lot of fantastic foreign players who shouldn't be ignored.

I understand that some may think this is sudden, but this is something I've known about a little while and deliberately chosen to wait to announce it with this showmatch hoping it would be a pleasent surprise, but apparantly I should've said something sooner! I personally can't wait to see this showmatch and see how some of their new members play against one of our strongest veteran teams in the league. I hope you'll all join us next Monday to see as well just how far iRk have come from the very beginning and what the new vT members bring to the table!

EDIT: One thing I'd love to point out in a jokey way is everyone is almost on the same level going into STPL as nobody has played the maps.

On August 28 2019 01:41 XenOsky wrote:


just like you are worth no points when i beat you in ladder everytime we play...

im not saying that, you can run your clan anyway you want, im just stating the fact that these players have zero interest in being a part of vT, (except maybe cRosSy) they are doing this just because there is some money involved, which is fine as long as qikz allows it.



^ MY POINT, and the main reason why i never even thought of telling any Ever member to be a part of dM for STPL, if Ever want to participate in STPL they should be playing as Ever)( , just like WHITE is doing...

On August 27 2019 08:38 ash.Game wrote:
how does this kill the spirit of a TEAM league. White look at SouL) / [WHITE] / for example. they're all Korean lineups so stop complaining. We just wanted more competition to the top teams of the league. with our addition of wico- we now have a chance

On August 28 2019 10:17 art_of_turtle wrote:

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I don't necessarily see any issues with koreans participating in Qik'z STPL but there is some validity of teams recruiting koreans only for the specific reason of winning their teamleagues and bringing their reputation of being a winning team up.

still quite surprised when guys like vT-sfca, vT-Galaxy, vT-MrPlow, and vT-CroSsy aren't participating in in the show match. I'm sure any one of those guys can easily take on whoever IRK has due to their position in BWL.

On August 28 2019 20:43 Qikz wrote:


There really isn't enough money in the BW scene currently to make this anywhere near worth it although hopefully if we all keep pushing to grow the scene it might be possible. Are you claiming Fujikura is paying a salary to the 8 or so Koreans who joined SouL as well as Bonyth now? I appreciate the optimism and I'd love it if teams could play their players salaries, but I don't see how this could be fiscally feasible.

I think a lot of the Korean players want to join these foreign teams to get more exposure. For Amateur players in Korea the situation completely sucks. If you're not a top pro level player there isn't really all that much going on for you. You can go to qualifiers and you might get in or you might not, but there's very few lower than highest level pro tournaments in korea. Very few people would ever pay them to play sponmatches so it's not like they get to grow their streams either.

On August 29 2019 04:21 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Im sure the korean amateurs like having their play streamed, but its not really a secret that Soul) aka Fujikura pays their players, thats why they get so many koreans/top foreigners easily and can dominate the leagues. I believe its like 10 or 15$ per win or something like that..if you live in Poland thats a decent amount of money.

On August 29 2019 08:19 M3t4PhYzX wrote:

it's not THAT much, but it is certainly better than nothing. especially if you live in some smaller town/city.

btw, if this dude is so rich why wouldn't he sponsor a solo 1v1 league or something? If he really loves the game so much..

On August 29 2019 10:47 Fujikura wrote:

Im not rich lol

On August 29 2019 10:47 Fujikura wrote:

Im not rich lol

On August 29 2019 20:55 iRk-AGge wrote:
Aight, I kept my mouth shut long enough, but here's my thoughts on this matter.

Positives: Wico has some really great players wich will make STPL even more interesting this season. iRk played a showgame CW in korean style cw vs Wico earlier this year wich me and crossy set up, it was really great and ended 5-4 in favour of Wico. The whole cw was gm and no problems with the communcations since crossy and also another wico member was really great in english.

Negatives: It's sad that we might not play as much vs the good foreign players in vT. But I hope sfca and cRoSsy balance it out so we get to see all those players on casts as well, they deserve it imo.
One thing I really don't like with this, is all those number ID's. It doesnt say who the player is from Wico, so it could easily be confused with a bunch of smurfs. I think if you merge two clans, the players should at least play on their real ID's with different tags, otherwise the production value just goes down. The fun part with playing against SouL's koreans and WHITE clan is that you know who you are facing, even if you play vs an amateur player in WHITE you can still look him up in ladder standings. But I just checked and none of the koreans that merged with vT. has played ladder or any games with their vT ID's yet. That is an issue I would like vT. admins to solve, because it will be much greater for casting the games, and it's really unfair that they can look up their opponents, but we cant see any of their stats/ratings.


When it comes to us clanleaders who occasionally likes to donate money to our players when they do good, it's my money, I do whatever I want with them. Just like every tournament organizer can do w-ever they want with their money. I host inhouse tournaments for my iRk players with a prizepool, because it keeps them motivated to keep performing on both individual and team level. It also gives me a chance to develop them into more then just great CB/FS players, because I can choose the maps they have to play. I can also give my B and C-team players the chance to play vs some really great players from the A-team in those tournaments, it also builds team spirit and connects potential players with great players. If I only donated all my money into 1on1 tournaments the money would go to a very small amount of players every time. If Fuji pays 10$ for each set win in a cw to his players, players who might never see any money coming out of this game suddenly has a chance to earn at least a small amount.

that's all for me! Looking forward to sundays CW vs vT. and all their new great players, and also ofcourse the new upcoming STPL season!

iRk- and Qikz Fighting!! <3

On September 01 2019 20:34 Qikz wrote:
We have names for the numbers!

OyAji: <<Neo Arkanoid>> Last
Favorit <<Desperado>> missyou
Dewalt <<Neo Outlier>> DK
Tim <<Blitz X>> Forever
ACE <<Multiverse>> ACE