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I invite everyone to take part in the 2v2 tournament on August 10 at 14:00 Moscow time! Registration: http://defiler.ru/tourney/?t=512
Date: 10/08/2019 12:00, Central European Time (CET)
Place: Europe, op 2v2
Format: Full Double Elemination
Maps: andromeda 1.0, colosseumii 2.0, eye of the storm, gemlong, gorky island
Prizepool: 100$ +++ to raise and support: https://matcherino.com/tournaments/18451/overview
Transfer commission at the expense of players
For registration request only 1 player (capitan of team)
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Are koreans allowed to participate?
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Nice, finally some 2v2 tournaments with big cash haha :D Btw I need ally. Preferable someone who can handle playing with a random noob!
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I've registered, my ally is going to be Bonyth
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Russian Federation139 Posts
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Russian Federation40 Posts
I can change island map if all not want this
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Russian Federation139 Posts
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Gaia and gorky island! The Nnostalgia... Excellent initiative
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Hell yeah. Gorky island. Please have cast.
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On August 06 2019 19:21 g0rynich wrote: yes i will cast it mogu pomoch s cast? ya po angl i russki. 2v2 igrok bolee 10 let i viigral 5 a+ turnirov
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Yea those maps are like sooo bad for 2vs2.
Gorki Island could be fun, gaia and andro are "ok" but colo and eyes of the storm are shit for 2x2.
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On August 06 2019 19:33 MiGSilver wrote: Date: 10.08 guys!!!
Wow too early for LATAM people ;(
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Russian Federation40 Posts
Guys, you can raise prizepool
Use paypal: paypal.me/migsilver
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great tournament. hope to see more of these. i love watching you pro guys plays on my big ass tv although my wife sometimes get pissed for not able to watch ''las chicas del cable'' on netflix :D
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On August 07 2019 15:41 elpolloloco31 wrote: great tournament. hope to see more of these. i love watching you pro guys plays on my big ass tv although my wife sometimes get pissed for not able to watch ''las chicas del cable'' on netflix :D ROFL, made my day!
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Russian Federation139 Posts
On August 07 2019 01:49 LV-Hellscream wrote:mogu pomoch s cast? ya po angl i russki. 2v2 igrok bolee 10 let i viigral 5 a+ turnirov
можно сделать два стрима - я только за - там более что все матчи посмотреть одновременно не получится - можно и поиграть =-) и добавить еще одну команду к ростеру
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Russian Federation139 Posts
On August 07 2019 04:13 KenZy wrote: Yea those maps are like sooo bad for 2vs2.
Gorki Island could be fun, gaia and andro are "ok" but colo and eyes of the storm are shit for 2x2.
Why so ? just diffrent strategy = yes, but why BAD?
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Seems like Kenzy really likes ramps for playing a style he knows best. I agree with g0rynich, maps like this require a very different style and I actually think it's good to have some variaty.
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What kenzy wanted to say probably is that there are more fun maps than those he mentioned.
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This should be good hope for some sweet games and for a great cast, too.
Thanks!
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On August 07 2019 17:57 kogeT wrote: Seems like Kenzy really likes ramps for playing a style he knows best. I agree with g0rynich, maps like this require a very different style and I actually think it's good to have some variaty.
It's probably the opposite.
I told you Gorky island could be fun, but Colo and eyes of the storm are actually not fun at all and broken in 2vs2. If you don't know how to play 2vs2 on it, you have no chance and some comp are really bad so yea everyone will have to pick on those maps but why not.
I just think they are not fun to play and watch and on those maps you will have no surprise and just standard play from good players who will crush others.
Trutacz is right, im not asking to play on Python or FS (who are probably the best maps for 2x2) but fun maps that are good to play and obs. Where you can play the race you want and try new things.
Koreans played a tournament like 2 or 3months ago (flash played in it with effort) with new maps, we could try them or some iccup map made for 2vs2.
Anyway i will play in it and im happy to see a 2x2 tournaments. I just want it to be the best experiences for players and viewers.
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On August 07 2019 19:51 KenZy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2019 17:57 kogeT wrote: Seems like Kenzy really likes ramps for playing a style he knows best. I agree with g0rynich, maps like this require a very different style and I actually think it's good to have some variaty. It's probably the opposite. I told you Gorky island could be fun, but Colo and eyes of the storm are actually not fun at all and broken in 2vs2. If you don't know how to play 2vs2 on it, you have no chance and some comp are really bad so yea everyone will have to pick on those maps but why not. I just think they are not fun to play and watch and on those maps you will have no surprise and just standard play from good players who will crush others.
We don't know what we don't know. :-) I of course respect your 2v2 skill, just saying that this will be on even terms so everyone will face same issues / opportunites, possibly giving us a good game. Btw. personally I hate these 2 maps for 1v1 too, but this is because they just don't match my style. :-)
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On August 07 2019 15:51 NeMu555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2019 15:41 elpolloloco31 wrote: great tournament. hope to see more of these. i love watching you pro guys plays on my big ass tv although my wife sometimes get pissed for not able to watch ''las chicas del cable'' on netflix :D ROFL, made my day!
Babe i hope u won this tour
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On August 06 2019 19:21 g0rynich wrote: yes i will cast it Will you record them? would really like to watch them as VoD since i cant watch it live
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On August 08 2019 00:44 FaCE_1 wrote:Will you record them? would really like to watch them as VoD since i cant watch it live same here. Please make a VOD from this. I would love to watch it, but I would not be able to catch it live.
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On August 06 2019 16:10 Trutaacz wrote: I've registered, my ally is going to be Bonyth What a deadly combo. Wonder if any of the other 2v2 gosus will come out of hiding and hand out whoopings to these 1v1 gosus.
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On August 06 2019 20:04 g0rynich wrote: i love gorky island If you don't take russian ally but want to win this tournament easy peazy.... < msg me :D
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imo, i find gaia is the worst map out of all because some locations have bad mineral mining + rush distance is all different by the location. also, 12 o clock is the only one location will get harassed by air units so easily and lose bunch of workers. you can see other locations can be defended and mineral fields are on the side of the wall.
colosseum map is definitely fine and i find it interesting because of the neutral sunken with creep. zerg player can use it to defend from there with his sunken, and even if opponent wants to hit from the high ground, the range is not enough and ONLY few units can hit from there(probably maximum 2 with dragoons). mineral mining is totally fair, defending from harassment is fair, short rush distance for any early aggression, etc.
having a variety of maps, concepts is okay, but if the location matters due to the bad mineral fields, i would exclude it.
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On August 08 2019 14:58 LaStScan wrote: imo, i find gaia is the worst map out of all because some locations have bad mineral mining + rush distance is all different by the location. also, 12 o clock is the only one location will get harassed by air units so easily and lose bunch of workers. you can see other locations can be defended and mineral fields are on the side of the wall.
colosseum map is definitely fine and i find it interesting because of the neutral sunken with creep. zerg player can use it to defend from there with his sunken, and even if opponent wants to hit from the high ground, the range is not enough and ONLY few units can hit from there(probably maximum 2 with dragoons). mineral mining is totally fair, defending from harassment is fair, short rush distance for any early aggression, etc.
having a variety of maps, concepts is okay, but if the location matters due to the bad mineral fields, i would exclude it. Didn't they make a balanced version of gaia or atleast the mineral patches part.
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On August 08 2019 00:44 FaCE_1 wrote:Will you record them? would really like to watch them as VoD since i cant watch it live
Unfortunately there will be no cast this time, beause i will be out of city for weekend. Wanted to cast, but forgot about planned vacation, so it will not happen (((
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On August 08 2019 13:42 NeMu555 wrote:If you don't take russian ally but want to win this tournament easy peazy.... < msg me :D
I already have an ally, sorry ..
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Russian Federation40 Posts
Are there any people who want to support this tournament financially? This will make it possible to continue to hold similar tournaments.
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set up matcherino page maybe.. I bet someone would put some bucks for the next edition
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On August 08 2019 13:28 art_of_turtle wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2019 16:10 Trutaacz wrote: I've registered, my ally is going to be Bonyth What a deadly combo. Wonder if any of the other 2v2 gosus will come out of hiding and hand out whoopings to these 1v1 gosus.
Well we are both 1v1 and 2v2 players with Bonyth. We used to played a lot 2v2(not together) in different time periods in past.
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Russian Federation40 Posts
I made page tourney on matcherino. Support plz
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On August 08 2019 20:37 MiGSilver wrote: I made page tourney on matcherino. Support plz Link it lol
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Btw is there a minimum level to play? I registered (with ash.jojo) because it s a great chance to play very good players but we re not great at all so if that's an issue (for the bracket or w/e) let us know thanks!
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On August 08 2019 22:21 WGT-Baal wrote: Btw is there a minimum level to play? I registered (with ash.jojo) because it s a great chance to play very good players but we re not great at all so if that's an issue (for the bracket or w/e) let us know thanks! There shouldn't be, its actually good so you can feel what high level 2v2 is like as you wouldn't get to play these guys on a regular basis. I wouldn't mind and I'm sure organizer is gonna do some kind of seeding so... should be fine.
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Russian Federation40 Posts
Brackets will be random, no minimum/max level, all join
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On August 07 2019 15:41 elpolloloco31 wrote: great tournament. hope to see more of these. i love watching you pro guys plays on my big ass tv although my wife sometimes get pissed for not able to watch ''las chicas del cable'' on netflix :D
hahaha nice one !!!
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On August 08 2019 14:58 LaStScan wrote: imo, i find gaia is the worst map out of all because some locations have bad mineral mining + rush distance is all different by the location. also, 12 o clock is the only one location will get harassed by air units so easily and lose bunch of workers. you can see other locations can be defended and mineral fields are on the side of the wall.
colosseum map is definitely fine and i find it interesting because of the neutral sunken with creep. zerg player can use it to defend from there with his sunken, and even if opponent wants to hit from the high ground, the range is not enough and ONLY few units can hit from there(probably maximum 2 with dragoons). mineral mining is totally fair, defending from harassment is fair, short rush distance for any early aggression, etc.
having a variety of maps, concepts is okay, but if the location matters due to the bad mineral fields, i would exclude it.
i would agree on this with scan, and remove Gaia from maps.
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I registered as well, its my first time doing this tourney...Can somebody confirm that only 1 player needs to register? Other just shows up with Main/ captain on day of tourney? Should i just ask other player to register as well?
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I replaced Gaia with a Gemlong
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On August 09 2019 09:59 PuRpOs3 wrote: I registered as well, its my first time doing this tourney...Can somebody confirm that only 1 player needs to register? Other just shows up with Main/ captain on day of tourney? Should i just ask other player to register as well? I confirm. One player need/captain of the team.
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Russian Federation40 Posts
Dont forget to check-in in page tourney in 1 hour
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my ally backed out in last min...dunno if anybody else available? Just for fun or someone who doesnt mind playing with a 1530 or less MMR
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so.. how is it going? Any results?
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France1916 Posts
A liquipedia page would be cool.
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GG, french legends. Waffle house not bad, not bad. Could be better .
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Russian Federation40 Posts
Thanks too all players! Next tournament in 2 weeks
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I'm curious, who allied scan, babo, tokyoa please?
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On August 11 2019 21:38 iCCup.Face wrote: I'm curious, who allied scan, babo, tokyoa please?
Nizzy allied Scan
Dandy allied Babo
Nemu allied Tokyoa
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I actually followed that tour with a lot of fun. Good job Silver for organizing and good games all the players.
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On August 11 2019 05:13 MiGSilver wrote: Thanks too all players! Next tournament in 2 weeks plz ban ZZ, it's imba
even the koreans think that
Other than that, thanks for organizing.
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Please do not ban ZZ, it is not imba.
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On August 12 2019 22:00 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2019 05:13 MiGSilver wrote: Thanks too all players! Next tournament in 2 weeks plz ban ZZ, it's imba even the koreans think that Other than that, thanks for organizing. Funny boy, ZZ is strong but very hard to do properly also.
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On August 12 2019 22:00 M3t4PhYzX wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2019 05:13 MiGSilver wrote: Thanks too all players! Next tournament in 2 weeks plz ban ZZ, it's imba even the koreans think that Other than that, thanks for organizing.
Its not imba. Some match ups are really hard for ZZ
Scan could you tell us what you think about ZZ and what koreans think about ZZ please ?
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On August 12 2019 23:01 KenZy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2019 22:00 M3t4PhYzX wrote:On August 11 2019 05:13 MiGSilver wrote: Thanks too all players! Next tournament in 2 weeks plz ban ZZ, it's imba even the koreans think that Other than that, thanks for organizing. Its not imba. Some match ups are really hard for ZZ Scan could you tell us what you think about ZZ and what koreans think about ZZ please ?
funny thing i was thinking to picka Z ally for next tourney and beat ya all
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On August 11 2019 05:13 MiGSilver wrote: Thanks too all players! Next tournament in 2 weeks
last time was too short notice for the tourney. me and ally didn't manage to prepare at all. lost really on builds and small mistakes.
Maps were not good enough. people mostly play fighting spirit and python 2vs2.. None of them was there.
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On August 09 2019 09:59 PuRpOs3 wrote: I registered as well, its my first time doing this tourney...Can somebody confirm that only 1 player needs to register? Other just shows up with Main/ captain on day of tourney? Should i just ask other player to register as well?
when brain works good then it means only one player needs to check in.
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It's up to tournament's admin, I don't mind for the both sides.
Koreans have been following the old rules from KeSPA no 2 zerg. They are very conservative and still follow that rules. We got bunch of strategies to beat 2Z now, not as hard as the old scene, but it is still tough(not as hard as before) to win the air battle with corsairs vs muta scourge in ZP vs ZZ match.
Probably this will offend a lot of people, but it's true. A lot of people are unskilled with corsair micro and letting the game collapsed.
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thank you for last tournament.
my personal opinion on everything
Maps weren't good enough, (fs python missing the ones we play most) was short notice and no enough time to prepare.
Players were not informed that only 1 needs to check in. some with retarded brain did check in 2 from 1 team and spoiled brackets. i had to wait 3 hours for my 2nd game.
I don't know if the idea of having winners play bo3 is good enough. i prefer that BO1 winners and bo3 losers is better. because good ones can go straight to finals and other ca prove themselves and show that they deserve to be in finals.
I think Zerg plus random should not be allowed. Players have to pick races or say races at game start. This spoiled my game 1. where i was zerg and played against zerg plus random zerg. makes hard to chose build.
overall everything was not bad, we had some fun. time could be slightly later. 12pm was bit early. but is ok.
there should be always official streamer . thank god we had gorynich last time, but what if he wouldn't come?
BM should be punished. Also the thing that bonyth did should be punished (change race in last moment)
User was warned for this post.
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There's probably only a handful of foreigners who can properly play ZZ anyways. Banning it in the foreign scene seems pretty absurd. It almost reminds me of the no random in certain 1v1 tours.
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Don't blame admin for making cool maps (or hard/weird maps in your eyes). Maybe expand your horizon away from python or fs only. When I+ally play vs kenzy/waffle we rotate every 2x2 map we can think about for variation in the games (unless when waffle veto maps 😂)
WAKANDA FOREVER.
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Maps are fine. Variety of strategies and race picks because of different maps is the right thing most people like to watch. Zz is fine. Disagree its an imba. Sounds for me like tesagi.
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Russian Federation40 Posts
Guys tellme please ur opinion about next tourney in 2 weeks. Maps and etc.
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On August 13 2019 00:41 MaD[AoV] wrote: Don't blame admin for making cool maps (or hard/weird maps in your eyes). Maybe expand your horizon away from python or fs only. When I+ally play vs kenzy/waffle we rotate every 2x2 map we can think about for variation in the games (unless when waffle veto maps 😂)
WAKANDA FOREVER.
bro i can and want play any map. but one week notice? come on... there was no time to prepare. i only could prepare 2 hours with my teammate.
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On August 13 2019 02:17 MiGSilver wrote: Guys tellme please ur opinion about next tourney in 2 weeks. Maps and etc.
i like some of the proleague 2x gas maps. so people don't gas you.
not sure if gasing opponent should be allowed on this tournament. what if we make no gasing rules? would it be stupid or opposite. cause some don't even know what to do if u gas em. sounds like autowin.
I'm all good with hannibal, vampire, etc.
I'm not happy about last weeks tourney maps because of short notice. otherwise maps weren's so bad. we had to watch some cool games.
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maps that i find ballanced are 815, andromeda, avalon, colosseum, dantes peak, empire of the sun, faoi, fs, neo forbidden zone, fortress, gemlong, gorky island, hall of valhalla, hannibal, hwangsanbul, iron curtain, latin quarter, othello, python, sniper ridge, troy, vampire, and hunters.
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On August 13 2019 07:08 LV-Hellscream wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2019 02:17 MiGSilver wrote: Guys tellme please ur opinion about next tourney in 2 weeks. Maps and etc. i like some of the proleague 2x gas maps. so people don't gas you. not sure if gasing opponent should be allowed on this tournament. what if we make no gasing rules? would it be stupid or opposite. cause some don't even know what to do if u gas em. sounds like autowin. I'm all good with hannibal, vampire, etc. I'm not happy about last weeks tourney maps because of short notice. otherwise maps weren's so bad. we had to watch some cool games. What's next, banning manner pylons?
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I was very disappointed there was no stream of this tour.
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On August 13 2019 13:44 Alpha-NP- wrote: I was very disappointed there was no stream of this tour. A couple of us casted the games but nobody did a perfect english one if thats what you mean.
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anyone remember God's Garden?
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