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United States8144 Posts
On May 25 2019 12:08 Alpha-NP- wrote: We should all root for Stork. It would be a crazy story if he won the whole thing. Like Bisu returning. It'd actually be more fitting if he got 2nd though, no? | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3685 Posts
Although I will say, I much prefer PvP over 7min ZvZ and 60min TvT. | ||
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MooPower92
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 26 2019 05:27 MooPower92 wrote: What a great time to be a Protoss player and fan! We need more Protoss honor and titles! During the Kespa days it was always Terran, then zerg and then Protoss having the least titles. And it hasn't been much different with Amateur tournaments. Protoss definitely are in need of more titles in Brood War! | ||
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
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fazek42
Hungary438 Posts
On May 25 2019 05:12 Jaeyun wrote: Np! At lower levels, I would recommend just trying to execute 5 hatch hydra and being aggressive around the 7:30-8:30 mark. After that, I'd just back up, drone, and block off the big Protoss push at around 12-13 minutes. Move into 4-5 bases with hive tech then play from there. You probably don't want to be out on the map fighting before then, in my opinion. Good luck! Snow was going for 2-1 upgrades with a double forge to counter SK's style. A good number of P's go 8 gate double forge in PvZ to go for a 2-1 timing rather than 2-0. This makes lings do 3 damage to goons, which is a big deal when Zerg reinforces with lings to pop goons once the zealots are gone. You may have looked at Snow's upgrades right before +2 weapons hit so he had 1-1 but he had 2-1 at the fight on the bridge. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7465 Posts
Why aren't any terrans or zergs here, because they got smashed. All of the players remaining has earned this. Snow would be the least exciting winner, Rain would be logical, Mini might be the best toss in the world right now or Stork, a throwback to before I had grey hairs or eye wrinkles, who happens to have played the most dominant wins in the last 3 rounds. Protoss players are normally a dime a dozen - all four of these guys have commanded their forces in strong fashion. Mini's fast 2-3 shuttle early midgame strategy is the bisu build of the new age, calling it now. Also, someone is going to do a maelstorm+storm drop in a pvz soon. I can feel it. | ||
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Chronopolis
Canada1484 Posts
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vndestiny
Singapore3441 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3472 Posts
On May 26 2019 15:37 AttackZerg wrote: Even thou I am not a big fan of finals without zerg, I am satisfied with this league and excited for the finals. Why aren't any terrans or zergs here, because they got smashed. All of the players remaining has earned this. Snow would be the least exciting winner, Rain would be logical, Mini might be the best toss in the world right now or Stork, a throwback to before I had grey hairs or eye wrinkles, who happens to have played the most dominant wins in the last 3 rounds. Protoss players are normally a dime a dozen - all four of these guys have commanded their forces in strong fashion. Mini's fast 2-3 shuttle early midgame strategy is the bisu build of the new age, calling it now. Also, someone is going to do a maelstorm+storm drop in a pvz soon. I can feel it. Hey slow down, my boy Action got Mini on the ropes, got caught out of position midgame with his hydra army and Mini capitalized but he hardly got smashed. | ||
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1092 Posts
Cant really complain about anything about poor showing by soulkey and best, but even then best would have won it would have been 4 protoss anyways | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
On May 26 2019 15:37 AttackZerg wrote: Even thou I am not a big fan of finals without zerg, I am satisfied with this league and excited for the finals. Why aren't any terrans or zergs here, because they got smashed. All of the players remaining has earned this. Snow would be the least exciting winner, Rain would be logical, Mini might be the best toss in the world right now or Stork, a throwback to before I had grey hairs or eye wrinkles, who happens to have played the most dominant wins in the last 3 rounds. Protoss players are normally a dime a dozen - all four of these guys have commanded their forces in strong fashion. Mini's fast 2-3 shuttle early midgame strategy is the bisu build of the new age, calling it now. Also, someone is going to do a maelstorm+storm drop in a pvz soon. I can feel it. Snow would be the most exciting winner imho. He has style(Dark Archons!), he has never won before and PvP is his weakest matchup, taking down Rain and Mini/Stork would be a great feat. Protoss players dominated every matchup, even the dreaded PvZ, so that they completely deserved to reach ro4. | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4139 Posts
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TornadoSteve
1092 Posts
On May 26 2019 21:39 Dante08 wrote: I've said from the last ASL/KSL the age of Protoss is here. They have improved so much in PvZ and are giving top Zergs such a hard time. And I would largely favour Rain, Snow and Mini against all Terrans except Flash. Will be interesting to see what happens in the next ASL. Pretty sure it goes like Snow, then stork, then Best, then Rain, then Mini if were talking about pvt | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Moopower
128 Posts
Rain has been in good form since season 4 and has proven to be championship material taking sc2 and sc1 titles. Sure sc2 is different than bw but winning and seemingly mastering both games gives him a psychological edge. He has proven to not have final jitters and can perform under pressure. Stork has really surprised me by dismantling Last with a calm and steady pace throughout the whole match. The way he destroys Last with Carriers all 3 games shows they weren't a fluke. He even humiliates Best by taking an expo while Best plays a safe build, playing the mind games and STILL outmacroes him in many occasions. I really hope to root for Stork if he continues this trend. He has been known as the King of Silvers and 2nd place finishes in the Kespa era, never truly establishing himself as the dominant toss, but he was mostly always top tier until KSL started again. Now Stork looks reborn a new Protoss! Mini was a protoss I've found hard to root for. He was always emotional and seemed to crack under pressure. He definitely came a long way in dealing with that emotional turmoil. While most pros calmly accept defeat or even have a slight disappointed look, Mini slumps over with his head down that makes most people think he is weak mentally. That may explain some, but sometimes emotional players have that much more of a drive to succeed. I think in a previous ASL or KSL he managed to beat SK after a near reverse sweep. I thought he was going to get 2-3ed and toss the match but he managed to get a grip of himself. Now he seems to have mastered a lot of zealot pressure in PvZ early game and has cleaned up his plays a lot. He is like the underdog story similar to Stork that can hopefully rise to the occasion and become one of the greats! Snow, most impressed me in ASL season 5 against Flash. The only protoss at the time that I truly believed gave Flash a run for his money. All the Protoss seemed to trash Terrans all except Flash. You might as well call it FvP instead of TvP. The same way Bisu dominates PvZ, Flash is always leagues ahead of the rest of the Terrans in this match up. Snow convincingly beat Flash, and I can't say the same for any Protoss recently. So hopefully Flash will participate next tournaments and a Protoss can prove themselves against a god. | ||
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KamMoye
United States721 Posts
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