[KSL3] Ro8 Day 2 - Soulkey vs Snow/Rain vs Sharp

On May 24 2019 22:04 Wombat_NI wrote:
I enjoyed it personally

On May 24 2019 22:09 Wombat_NI wrote:
Well no I felt he was saying it about the rabid ones who bring up Flash whenever there’s any BW game on and say things like he’d win easily if only he was playing etc etc.

Those kind of folks are super disrespectful to the level of other players so I don’t really care if they’re offended

On May 24 2019 22:16 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It's a strange thing for any caster to say. Tastosis prequently mocks and insults fans and the common bw player, it really strange to hear. It's such a turnoff.

Well, those were a nice pair of recalls. it didn't seem to do much though.

On May 25 2019 02:28 Jaeyun wrote:


Typically, when you go 3 base lurker into hive, you rush carapace upgrades then as it's about to finish, you move into triple evo chamber to align the 2-1-1. The reasoning is that once you have your carapace up, the zealots no longer get their weapon advantage over the lings. In this case, it seems SK only went dual evo chamber for 2-1, which might be because he was down economically throughout the game throwing away a lot of units that weren't getting much value.

With hive, you want to move into defiler and creep out to take your 4th base but in this case, Soulkey opted to move in for the kill move for a couple reasons. First, he was successful in sniping at least 2 (maybe 3?) HTs with his lings and noticed Snow also invested in an archon, which otherwise would have put him to a total of 5-6 fully loaded HT, which is what you're looking for when P moves out for a 2-0 timing. With his lings, he scouted he only had 1 more HT remaining which would leave him vulnerable to an engagement. Second, with hive tech, Snow is constantly deciding which base to defend and the bridge typically tends to be an unfavorable spot to attack in but he was able to catch Snow off guard with his army moving in a line and getting sliced by lurkers, causing SK's attack to succeed.

I would warn against trying to use this build to go in for a kill move in other circumstances/scenarios as you'll find that you'd probably get stormed to death running into your opponent when P is at his strongest point (~12 minutes). The pros often can dictate the pace of the game with their superior micro, then punish with thin timings, but I doubt this SK intended for this build to be a 3 base all in kill move.

Overall, amazing play from Snow - heartbreaking for me to see as a Zerg but he deserved it. What impressed me the most was Snow's corsair control in a high-stakes game. When corsairs are alive and active, they're such a pain to deal with all game, not to mention a counter to late game crackling doom drops. G4 was probably also really tilting for SK because Snow cut probes very early to move in for a constant 2 base all in. SK almost held and had a decent shot had he not gotten killed by the DT, but very impressive for Snow to keep that pressure on.

I had Rain as a slight favorite against Sharp, as Sharp's TvT and TvP are both monster, but Rain easily flexing how strong of a player he is in offline settings and in a series. The one thing I'll leave here is that Rain made his entire career being one of the most solid, conservative, and mechanically brilliant Protosses in both SC2 and SCR - when a player like that mixes in intelligent cheeses, it makes him that much more potent in a five game series. Similar to how SK loves playing super aggressive all-in builds but is mechanically top tier at all stages of the games. This is way different from players cheesing because they need to.

I know Bisu is and will always be known as the GOAT of Protoss, but sometimes I genuinely feel the ghost of Bisu is keeping people from appreciating Rain's brilliance. Not trying to compare the two, just a strange observation.

On May 26 2019 05:27 MooPower92 wrote:
What a great time to be a Protoss player and fan! We need more Protoss honor and titles! During the Kespa days it was always Terran, then zerg and then Protoss having the least titles.

On May 26 2019 15:37 AttackZerg wrote:
Even thou I am not a big fan of finals without zerg, I am satisfied with this league and excited for the finals.

Why aren't any terrans or zergs here, because they got smashed. All of the players remaining has earned this.

Snow would be the least exciting winner, Rain would be logical, Mini might be the best toss in the world right now or Stork, a throwback to before I had grey hairs or eye wrinkles, who happens to have played the most dominant wins in the last 3 rounds.

Protoss players are normally a dime a dozen - all four of these guys have commanded their forces in strong fashion.


Mini's fast 2-3 shuttle early midgame strategy is the bisu build of the new age, calling it now.

Also, someone is going to do a maelstorm+storm drop in a pvz soon. I can feel it.