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ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1701 Posts
September 20 2018 20:54 GMT
#161
Meh, Shuttle will get wiped by whoever he faces in the RO8 as usual
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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
September 20 2018 21:06 GMT
#162
On September 20 2018 21:03 reincremate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 20:59 nojok wrote:
On September 20 2018 19:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Who will qualify first?

SoulKey (4)
 
50%

Snow (3)
 
38%

EffOrt (1)
 
13%

Shuttle (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Who will qualify first?

(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shuttle
(Vote): SoulKey
(Vote): EffOrt




Poll: Who will qualify second?

SoulKey (3)
 
38%

EffOrt (3)
 
38%

Snow (1)
 
13%

Shuttle (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Who will qualify second?

(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shuttle
(Vote): SoulKey
(Vote): EffOrt



lol

Not at all surprised that most people (myself included) predicted Effort and Soulkey to advance. A bit surprised that some people thought Snow would make it though, given his lacklustre PvZ.

What? Snows PVZ has improved drastically in the last 6 months, I actually wondered how could you put Soulkey above him.
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leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
September 20 2018 21:32 GMT
#163
Yeah for shuttle :D

His PvZ looks so good at times.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
September 20 2018 21:40 GMT
#164
On September 21 2018 06:32 leublix wrote:
Yeah for shuttle :D

His PvZ looks so good at times.


I haven't seen a whole lot of Shuttle, but I am indeed impressed by his PvZ most of the times.
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ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
September 20 2018 22:51 GMT
#165
Great games and surprising result in this group. Shuttle had some great plays in the games he won which weren't mentioned from what i noticed:
In the PvZ vs Soulkey, the only scouting Soulkey gets is the spinning forge and +1 corsairs, then the zealot move-out, so he probably assumes +1 sairlot and makes the usual 2+1 sunk/spore at each natural. Ofc against sair/reaver this is 4 early sunkens totally useless (6 slowlots can be easily killed with speedlings, then next timing attack gets much weaker, so zerg can make more drones overall). Soulkey should have scouted the nat like Effort did, but I think Shuttle realized this and moved out with the slowlots immediately after the scourge see the forge but miss the robo.
In the PvP vs Snow, he literally made 0 cannons (at least 2 is common with this build) which allowed him to barely hold the push combined with the great storms. Guess Snow should have pushed earlier? although I'm kinda clueless in PvP.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11075 Posts
September 21 2018 00:34 GMT
#166
Snow's PvZ -.- What was that first one? Obviously tehre was going to be a flood of hydras. He forget his templar archives at some point?

Sad about Snow
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Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 21 2018 01:55 GMT
#167
Effort somehow maintained near 600apm in the whole ZvZ
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 03:22:06
September 21 2018 03:15 GMT
#168
On September 20 2018 23:03 RAPiDCasting wrote:
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On September 20 2018 22:49 Motivate wrote:
btw rapid's casting has gotten a lot better.. he's definitely more analytical recently. out of interest, does anyone know what race he plays? he seems to be better at analysing terran games.


I started playing Terran, moved to Protoss, and lately I've been inspired to play Zerg, but that doesn't mean I'm good at any of them.

I enjoy your casting, but I do hope that you'll continue to expand your knowledge of the game so you can provide better analysis. I think plenty of other viewers think similarly. Keep it up, man!
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
September 21 2018 03:36 GMT
#169
Rapid showed notable improvement as a caster & is good when not manic
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 06:48:42
September 21 2018 04:02 GMT
#170
On September 21 2018 12:36 KamMoye wrote:
Rapid showed notable improvement as a caster & is good when not manic

I personally prefer manic, frenetic casting lol. Back in the day, that dude Klazart, who despite not knowing jack shit about the game, was an entertaining caster because of his energy and humour. It's kind of like how DMX is a terrible lyricist but has great hip hop delivery. If someone could combine that kind of delivery with actual game knowledge, they'd be the bonjwa of casting.

On September 21 2018 06:06 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2018 21:03 reincremate wrote:
On September 20 2018 20:59 nojok wrote:
On September 20 2018 19:18 NoS-Craig wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Who will qualify first?

SoulKey (4)
 
50%

Snow (3)
 
38%

EffOrt (1)
 
13%

Shuttle (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: Who will qualify first?

(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shuttle
(Vote): SoulKey
(Vote): EffOrt




Poll: Who will qualify second?

SoulKey (3)
 
38%

EffOrt (3)
 
38%

Snow (1)
 
13%

Shuttle (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Who will qualify second?

(Vote): Snow
(Vote): Shuttle
(Vote): SoulKey
(Vote): EffOrt



lol

Not at all surprised that most people (myself included) predicted Effort and Soulkey to advance. A bit surprised that some people thought Snow would make it though, given his lacklustre PvZ.

What? Snows PVZ has improved drastically in the last 6 months, I actually wondered how could you put Soulkey above him.

You're probably right; I admit I haven't been following Snow's recent games closely enough, but in the few I've seen, his PvZ still seems rather weak (namely the series against JD where he was crushed 4 games in a row after taking a 2-0 lead). At the very least, it's still his most vulnerable match-up and I would bet on Effort or Soulkey against him in most circumstances.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8487 Posts
September 21 2018 07:34 GMT
#171
On September 21 2018 10:55 Disregard wrote:
Effort somehow maintained near 600apm in the whole ZvZ

This thing amazes me too
Yesterday , I watched his stream and he played protoss; if you want to see a protoss player with 430 apm , go watch effort
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chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
September 21 2018 11:00 GMT
#172
On September 21 2018 00:57 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2018 00:30 M2 wrote:
On September 21 2018 00:10 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Shuttle always delivers against tough opponents in tournaments. He advanced against 3 Zergs in last ASL and now advanced out of this group. He is getting more respect in my eye.

I looked at the last ASL to see how the quarterfinals would be drawn.

We are gonna have an Effort vs Rain quarterfinal and a Sharp vs Shuttle quarterfinal. Effort vs Rain is going to be a sick matchup. Shuttle could do his best yet in this tourmament with his “clutch under pressure” ability.

I think you are not right about that, the quarterfinals are not predefined, there will be a draw and every 1st finisher could possibly play every 2nd finisher but the ones that are from a same group, however, we may get effort vs rain and sharp vs shuttle, but it will be after a draw, not decided yet

Ah okay thanks for clarifying.

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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
September 21 2018 13:34 GMT
#173
On September 21 2018 12:36 KamMoye wrote:
Rapid showed notable improvement as a caster & is good when not manic


Well, I know Rapid probably reads this, but I think he could still use a bit more game knowledge. It's hard for me to determine how hard it is to get that, as I've played this game for years. But I think that would really make him a better caster. Saying with certainty what players would be doing and why they are doing it, I feel that is kinda lacking now and because of that in late game it also gets harder to predict the outcomes. I mean I think you're doing a great job Rapid (if you would read this), but yea.. It would be even better if you could spend some more time with the game.

At the same time I understand that it's not getting huge viewing numbers, so it might seem unimportant and it's good enough as it is. Might be, but as a guy who played bw a lot (really a lot) i feel the commentary is not on the same level of Artosis (not meant as an insult). Anyway, its hard to write something even slightly critical about this and I dont mean this as something bad, I think you're doing great and as others have said, definitely better than before. Kinda hope you can make the step to Artosis levels of commentary, but I think that might still be a huge step
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
September 21 2018 15:43 GMT
#174
I've thought a fair bit about why I like Tastosis and not Rapid. I've concluded it's partly game knowledge, but also a lot generational. I relate to Tastosis' humor and not Rapid's at all. I cringe when it's Rapid and I wasn't expecting it and then focus on irritants. Things like "ultra guaranteed" bother me in the same way as "grand finals". However, when I ask myself if Tastosis said those things (in fact they do "grand finals" regularly) I realize that although I find it irritating, I sorta let it slide more for them. So those irritants aren't really the issue, and trying to pin it down is not easy. Thus I've decided it's generational humor. So ofc, that's nobody's fault.
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
September 21 2018 17:36 GMT
#175
On September 21 2018 12:36 KamMoye wrote:
Rapid showed notable improvement as a caster & is good when not manic


Cause while the haters were busy hating and/or sleeping he was getting down casting Brood War 10+hrs a week
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 17:58:20
September 21 2018 17:56 GMT
#176
On September 22 2018 00:43 Nematocyst wrote:
I've thought a fair bit about why I like Tastosis and not Rapid. I've concluded it's partly game knowledge, but also a lot generational. I relate to Tastosis' humor and not Rapid's at all. I cringe when it's Rapid and I wasn't expecting it and then focus on irritants. Things like "ultra guaranteed" bother me in the same way as "grand finals". However, when I ask myself if Tastosis said those things (in fact they do "grand finals" regularly) I realize that although I find it irritating, I sorta let it slide more for them. So those irritants aren't really the issue, and trying to pin it down is not easy. Thus I've decided it's generational humor. So ofc, that's nobody's fault.


I suppose so, to be fair I think Tastetosis are really good at coming up with interesting/funny things to say, along with a good level of game knowledge.

I understand it's not easy for someone else to achieve this. My only problem is when they start referencing SC2 like "oh if this were XXX (SC2 unit) then XXX" or "If only we had XXX (SC2 unit)" or "what would happen if we had XXX (SC2 unit) now, wouldn't that be amazing?"

Imagine if you're watching tennis and the commentator talks about table tennis. "oh if it were table tennis, he wouldn't have to sprint so far". "oh in table tennis the movement speed of the ball is slower but has a lower collision size compared to tennis, and he would have been able to return that smash more easily"

Please stop it, it's infuriating to listen to. For me, you don't need to have a lot of game knowledge (although obviously having more game knowledge is better), or to be super funny. Just leave the table tennis talk when you're casting a game of table tennis. Thank you.
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
September 21 2018 18:26 GMT
#177
Guess PvZ will be very difficult for protoss this season..
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Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
September 21 2018 19:14 GMT
#178
On September 22 2018 02:56 JieXian wrote:My only problem is when they start referencing SC2


You aren't alone in this. I try to remind myself they like, cast, and play both games. That's fine, but it does go overboard at times. I wonder if BW slips into their SC2 casts.
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 23:07:22
September 21 2018 23:05 GMT
#179
I was thinking about Group C and I strongly think Mini and Best will advance.

And Group D I expect Flash to lose at least one game. I hope he has close calls with elimination. It would be huge if Flash lost to Jaedong.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 22 2018 00:48 GMT
#180
On September 22 2018 08:05 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I was thinking about Group C and I strongly think Mini and Best will advance.

And Group D I expect Flash to lose at least one game. I hope he has close calls with elimination. It would be huge if Flash lost to Jaedong.

Group D is heartbreaking. At least one of Flash, Jaedong or Action will be eliminated.
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