EPTMust be fun trying to do a good job, the get to read all this shit.
I really enjoyed the cast and the games, thanks for putting in the efford
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Timebon3s
Norway752 Posts
Must be fun trying to do a good job, the get to read all this shit. I really enjoyed the cast and the games, thanks for putting in the efford | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
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Miragee
8618 Posts
On September 26 2018 17:09 darktreb wrote: NoRegret doesn't know BW too well, but he's sharp, thinks strategically (obviously given he's a strong SC2 player), notices what's going on on the screen and minimap, etc. Like most people I prefer Tastosis but I don't mind NoRegret at all. Unfortunately, Rapid is just agonizing as a caster. It's bad enough that he knows very little about BW, but he also has very limited strategic acumen. We don't all have to be former B- iCCup players or whatever, but Rapid pretty clearly could never have gotten there no matter how hard he tried. NoRegret consistently points out stuff based purely off his intuition, like certain trades being good, positioning observations, etc., that are way more accurate and insightful than Rapid. To make matters worse, Rapid frequently gets caught up in streams of consciousness while missing important stuff which then impedes subsequent casting because he wasn't paying attention when some building got built or some other major event occurred. I actually think it'd be really interesting to have NoRegret paired with Artosis or Tasteless. The combination of NoRegret having good strategic intuition but knowing relatively little BW, with Artosis / Tasteless' knowledge and experience, could make for a cool dynamic of seeing a strong SC2 player learn BW on the fly. Overall Artosis + anyone (even Rapid) can work, because Artosis is just by far the best player out of all the casters, and when you have someone who's a reasonably high level player it makes such a difference. I don't know if Tasteless could carry Rapid, but in spite of Tasteless' rough edges and occasionally comical errors (7 minerals per harvest haha), he's a lot of fun and just has a charm to his casting you can't teach. There was a day where they had Artosis and NoRegret on and it worked well, as expected. I think your analysis is on point. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On September 26 2018 17:09 darktreb wrote: [....] I don't know if Tasteless could carry Rapid, but in spite of Tasteless' rough edges and occasionally comical errors (7 minerals per harvest haha), he's a lot of fun and just has a charm to his casting you can't teach. Yes, Tasteless might not be the best player and always talks about the good old days of BW (which I don't mind, I find it endearing) but he's amazingly witty. For example, in that 7 mineral per harvest situation, a lesser man like me might have created an awkward moment for everyone, but Tasteless managed to recover and make it entertaining. Moreover, when he isn't familiar with a particular match up, he would not pretend that he does and just spew nonsense, but he would make it clear that he doesn't know something and would ask Artosis. Of course it might be a role that he is playing or it could be argued that he should know his stuff, but I personally don't mind and I genuinely enjoy it. TLDR: I love Tastosis <3 | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway752 Posts
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Nematocyst
United States164 Posts
On September 26 2018 17:36 Timebon3s wrote: What a sad thread this turned into. Must be fun trying to do a good job, the get to read all this Being honest about what we like, don't like, and why is good for everyone. It's good for ALL the casters, and the larger community. Most aren't trying to dump on anyone, but rather articulate the issues. Before that poll, I was under the impression that people were roughly evenly split. That's what happens when you are afraid to voice your opinion for fear of being perceived as a bully. I'll agree this discussion doesn't really belong in this thread, but I felt it was an important one to be had. I felt if I didn't voice my opinion, then I have nobody but myself to blame when I get more of the same. | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
Calling somebody's work horse shit is definitely the latter. Guy had it coming, jumping the mods like that. Please, guys, let's remember the administration of this forum has given us a set of rules to follow. Their house, their rules. We might not agree. Still their house. Keeping the website is quite some work, although the site itself is worthless without the netizens. Respect their decisions or question them in civilised manner. On the (actually off-)topic: I still don't buy the rapid/Noregret combo, the idea is great, guys lack the knowledge. If they up it, they'll be great, Noregret the more analytical one and Rapid the entertaining one. But there has been some improvement. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On September 27 2018 05:29 TaardadAiel wrote: There is a fine and very distinctive line between criticism and flaming. Calling somebody's work horse shit is definitely the latter. Guy had it coming, jumping the mods like that. Please, guys, let's remember the administration of this forum has given us a set of rules to follow. Their house, their rules. We might not agree. Still their house. Keeping the website is quite some work, although the site itself is worthless without the netizens. Respect their decisions or question them in civilised manner. On the (actually off-)topic: I still don't buy the rapid/Noregret combo, the idea is great, guys lack the knowledge. If they up it, they'll be great, Noregret the more analytical one and Rapid the entertaining one. But there has been some improvement. I'm surprised that you found Rapid entertaining. For me he's just infuriating with his ignorance of BW, his consequent comparisons with SC2 (because he can't talk about much about something he doesn't know), along with his attitude, (for example, Tasteless knows so much more about BW, yet he's so much more humble), and I think many would agree with me. | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
To be honest, I think the big problem with Rapid is him getting lost in, as someone above put it very well, "streams of consciousness". He's not a stupid guy and if he paid more attention to the actual games, he would call stuff much better. And as for the humor, I think there's the issue of different generations. I don't know how old Rapid is, but I definitely feel older than him. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
A thing or two instead of posting on here where it will solve nothing? | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On September 28 2018 06:09 Alpha-NP- wrote: Why don’t you guys hop on Discord or Skype and teach them A thing or two instead of posting on here where it will solve nothing? Out of respect I will assume you are serious. For Rapid to improve (and he does improve) requires substantial conscious effort throughout the stream. I watched him cast something, IDK what it was, maybe the SC:R Pro series finals. He was alone and he did pretty bad. The guy does better with a calmer, analytical co-caster, and when he actively suppresses the urge to overhype. He doesn't need me in particular to TEACH him anything, he needs practice as a caster, a solid co-caster with the right traits and some constructive criticism (criticism so he knows what's wrong and constructive since otherwise he'll just quit and I would rather like him to improve more). | ||
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SrsImNotBearAttack
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 ) EDIT: Sorry to the mods for making more work for you, this will be my last post. Thanks for working in the Brood War realm, your efforts are invaluable in the continuation of our beloved foreign scene.User was banned for this post. | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Mirabel_
United States1768 Posts
I wish there was more I could say about what's to come instead of this production value metacommentary because I can hardly contain myself waiting the remaining four days for ASL to kick up again. as a fan I don't want this negativity to be what fills this great void between Groups B and C | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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