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Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2713 Posts
April 24 2018 10:54 GMT
#81
Really disgusting map and TO mindset. If Flash can somehow God his way to another title (heavily doubt it after seeing the games) or at least make it into the finals, the higher ups at this studio ought to jump off the top of the Afreeca building.
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 24 2018 10:56 GMT
#82
On April 24 2018 19:52 phosphorylation wrote:
a sieged tank in the main base to protect that third ?
i think that would have been very effective

this game will take so much time more and then result still doesn't change.

Terran can't win only with four bases vs Zerg take eight bases.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 24 2018 10:58 GMT
#83
On April 24 2018 19:56 bovienchien wrote:
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On April 24 2018 19:52 phosphorylation wrote:
a sieged tank in the main base to protect that third ?
i think that would have been very effective

this game will take so much time more and then result still doesn't change.

Terran can't win only with four bases vs Zerg take eight bases.

To be fair, most of the later game, T was on one (running) base and Z on two (which weren't completely saturated).
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-24 11:02:21
April 24 2018 10:59 GMT
#84
Well that seems a bit extreme lol... also I think Flash has a lot of opportunity on these maps. He's disadvantaged a bit but I believe. I think most players are not adapting that great to the differences in the maps. I think Flash will do this. He will take the changes and adapt to gain an advantage.

I keep it vague because hes basically grown as a player where he will just adapt on the fly.
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Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
April 24 2018 10:59 GMT
#85
good position for terran on transistor
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-24 11:01:22
April 24 2018 11:00 GMT
#86
On April 24 2018 19:54 Motivate wrote:
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On April 24 2018 19:53 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On April 24 2018 19:50 Motivate wrote:
that was so painful to watch... i guess mind lost too many vessels. never thought i'd root for a terran.

Try to give hero some credit. He out played mind. He did more things than mind could keep up with but mind played well with the time he had. He was just slower. Which is why I think hero will almost definitely take this series. You heard it here first (actually i said it earlier but still)

haha guess i've never really liked hero's playstyle.. so passive and macro focused. but agreed he played the map perfectly.

Well I'll have to point out heros skill at zvz. I mean the stats show that. He has the micro But I understand what you're saying.

I mean im just a B- iccup player back in the day playing on korean times. But I can tell you thats absolutely the way to win vs Terran lol. Save your units, let terran come to you and make the mistakes. Use your scourge. Win. Thats how you do it.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4121 Posts
April 24 2018 11:01 GMT
#87
On April 24 2018 19:48 Terrorbladder wrote:
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On April 24 2018 19:46 Dante08 wrote:
Ladies and gentlemen this is why you need to go mech vs zerg. Ultras and defilers destroy bio.

Valiant attempt by Mind though.
Go mech vs Zerg on a good air map and Terran can only secure at most 1 ground-defendable expansions??????


Well yeah I guess going mech is pretty hard on this map.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10338 Posts
April 24 2018 11:02 GMT
#88
That game was so freaking scrappy. Imagine playing that game from herO's point of view. Just non-stop drops everywhere, tank drops on ledge, eraser on workers, nyduses sniped, wraith harass, constantly losing bases and workers and having to rebuild. I don't even play zerg and I have nightmares about having to deal with that shit.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 24 2018 11:02 GMT
#89
On April 24 2018 20:02 BlackJack wrote:
That game was so freaking scrappy. Imagine playing that game from herO's point of view. Just non-stop drops everywhere, tank drops on ledge, eraser on workers, nyduses sniped, wraith harass, constantly losing bases and workers and having to rebuild. I don't even play zerg and I have nightmares about having to deal with that shit.

Exactly, and the fact he won just shows hes just in better shape. Faster, stronger. I feel bad for mind honestly.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-24 11:05:30
April 24 2018 11:04 GMT
#90
Artosis is making really good points. 5 rax into 2 port dropship early after 1 vessel is very smart. But the mnm has to keep active on the map keeping the zerg busy.

Vessel should save energy for the first defiler if possible.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 24 2018 11:06 GMT
#91
Oh wow, I thought Hero would lose just there and then.
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
April 24 2018 11:06 GMT
#92
I know that Sparkle and Gladiator which two maps were banned in the game 1 and game 5. But I don't know, Hero banned both 2 that maps or every gamers banned one map?
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
April 24 2018 11:07 GMT
#93
awesome drone save O_O!!
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Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
April 24 2018 11:08 GMT
#94
i think guardians on 2 bases
Ty2
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-24 11:11:48
April 24 2018 11:08 GMT
#95
On April 24 2018 19:53 BigFan wrote:
Freaking Third World. Mind was playing out of his mind there till the last bit

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On April 24 2018 19:50 Ty2 wrote:
Insane game 1. I have no idea how hero brought it back after losing his third and bottom right.

He was floating close to 1.2k minerals so he just remade everything.

That's true he can remake everything but I would be hesitant to say why Mind lost is that simple. For the time Hero didn't have a third was time drones weren't mining from that third, and more importantly, mining a third gas. The minerals spent on remaking the bases is also money that could've been spent on other things whilst Mind's "equivalence" in resources didn't have him remaking things. I think what really did Mind in was losing the science vessels which lost all of his mid game and late game agency besides drops.

edit: Although I guess it'd be considered evened up resource wise Hero had that significant of an advantage but I really think it was neck and neck up until losing both bases.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 24 2018 11:08 GMT
#96
Guardian would be a huge mistake I feel.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 24 2018 11:10 GMT
#97
I think one irradiate wouldve been much better first then dropships, but mind and hero both playing great.
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 24 2018 11:11 GMT
#98
another great game
BW is back
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
April 24 2018 11:11 GMT
#99
Damn...compare this to shuttle and rain and you wonder what they were doing in this league
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Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 24 2018 11:12 GMT
#100
mind is everywhere
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