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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
July 31 2017 07:50 GMT
#1281
Is it just me, or do the SCVs look like reapers?

Super tilting sight to behold, as a Zerg.
gg no re thx
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
July 31 2017 09:09 GMT
#1282
There's a small handful of things that look good but overall I think it's really ugly.
~
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5633 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-31 09:22:54
July 31 2017 09:22 GMT
#1283
On July 31 2017 16:32 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Ask u guys, I just watch JD vs Bisu. JD food supply always below Bisu.

Is it because it is common for Zerg to have lower food supply than Protoss?
Or ... Jaedong make some decision in game and pay for it result in lower food supply.

Or.... it is Jaedong not playing well :-(


I just watch SCBW but dont play it, so listen to commentator in Korean, I cannot understand what happen..

Generally if Zerg has a 10-20 supply deficit to Protoss it's pretty even.
FBH #1!
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-31 11:05:44
July 31 2017 11:04 GMT
#1284
On July 31 2017 16:32 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Ask u guys, I just watch JD vs Bisu. JD food supply always below Bisu.

Is it because it is common for Zerg to have lower food supply than Protoss?
Or ... Jaedong make some decision in game and pay for it result in lower food supply.

Or.... it is Jaedong not playing well :-(


I just watch SCBW but dont play it, so listen to commentator in Korean, I cannot understand what happen..


Zerg is weird because they generally stick to lower supplies while they get the drone count up + upgrades going, then shoot up very rapidly in supply. Unless you go for a big hydra bust early on, you're pretty much always behind in supply as Zerg vs Protoss until you get the third and fourth bases up and fully saturated. This phenomenon appears often in TvZ too where Zerg will be sitting at around 120-130 supply while saturating their 4th base and getting hive upgrades vs the Terran who will be 170+ supply of mech and any leftover bio. It's mostly just because Zerg can't produce workers + units at the same time, but they have very good defensive tools (sunkens, lurkers, defilers, flanks, etc.).

Coming from SC2, this was a super weird adjustment for me.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-31 11:14:47
July 31 2017 11:14 GMT
#1285
Here's the VoD with my commentary. Unfortunately, I was not expecting to be casting for 4+ hours, so I dropped out 3.5 hours into the cast just before the Bisu/Flash/Jaedong matches. If the matches were any good, I may revisit them and cast them anyway, but I was just wiped out yesterday morning.

Best games (imo):
BoxeR vs YellOw G1
Reach vs Nada G2

StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
July 31 2017 11:22 GMT
#1286
@ EsportsJohn

I think it's pretty safe to say that Bisu vs FlaSh was by far the best match of the entire event.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11287 Posts
July 31 2017 11:46 GMT
#1287
Back in the pro days, zerg was always 10-25 supply behind protoss and terran. It was standard to see terran up to 34 to zerg's 18 on the resource counter. And unless there's some tide turning development, zerg supply number doesn't catch up until around 160-180 supply in a standard game. But it's not really because they have less number of units, it's more because zerg units aren't really expensive in terms of supply (terran mass SCVs which would account for this difference in TvZ.)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
ndesktop
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Romania109 Posts
July 31 2017 13:19 GMT
#1288
Well, let's hope was some weird streaming issue on my available laptop (watched thins on a Lubuntu).
Other than that, first matches all finishing 1:1 quite funny, JD not playing anything, Bisu wanted to be somewhere else, JD not playing anything.
But the graphics are dissapointing as hell. Not sure from where to start, hydras looking like waiters (ugly), lurker (ugly as hell), ultras and lings okay etc. (but why do I pay for "okay" content?). Mechanics looked affected (not a single reaver scarab miss, dragoons not glitching paths AT ALL).
Neither the casters looked amazed, although they tried professionally (as they should).

Only Flash is the same. Same gazzillion of turrets, millions of mines, tons of vultures and loads of tanks assorted with necessary vessels and goliaths.
Mine more minerals.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
July 31 2017 14:08 GMT
#1289
Games were really good, I love SC:R
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
July 31 2017 14:39 GMT
#1290
On July 31 2017 16:50 RKC wrote:
Is it just me, or do the SCVs look like reapers?

Super tilting sight to behold, as a Zerg.

Haha yeah I also see a reaper everytime a terran is scouting now.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10776 Posts
July 31 2017 16:24 GMT
#1291
Thanks John.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
July 31 2017 16:49 GMT
#1292
On July 31 2017 08:40 usopsama wrote:
Is there a Korean VOD?

Found it: -snip-

It is so much better than the English casting.

Thank you!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
CptMarvel
Profile Joined May 2014
France236 Posts
July 31 2017 16:58 GMT
#1293
Haven't followed BW much lately but damn Flash seems as ridiculously dominant as ever. Only Bisu was SOMEWHAT up his level. A little disappointed in Jaedong though.
Boxer's antics are still delightful to watch.
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
July 31 2017 17:28 GMT
#1294
Why Stork didn't attend this event?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
July 31 2017 17:55 GMT
#1295
On August 01 2017 02:28 LightAngels wrote:
Why Stork didn't attend this event?

Because they invited the best player from each race.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 31 2017 19:01 GMT
#1296
On July 31 2017 15:17 Dante08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 13:48 Dazed. wrote:
-Some of the graphics are a little too much, and distracting
- in particular watching the boxes of the players viewpoints on the mini map is extremely distracting, and pointless
- Dont like the lack of gradients on the hitboxes etc
- Personally not a fan of the zoom out and in option, not in the sense of having it, just its utilization for professional bw. Hopefully its not used often in the future.
- Honestly overall, the graphics arent bad, but I'm not a fan. Just too distracting.

Seriously. Why do so many things blow up in almost a nuclear fashion? Its over the top. This is a strategy games, effects shouldnt distract from the actual strategy, for viewers or players. If this is whats released I am certainly not going to be using updated graphics, and, likely, will curtail watching professional bw a great deal.

Meanwhile zerg death animations barely have any blood to them? lol wtf...

Jesus those scvs...

Burrowed lurkers look terrible...


On your first point I don't think it's pointless. It is useful in situations if you want to know where the player is focusing. For example the obs points to a dt wrecking all the drones and you can see if the zerg is paying attention by looking at the box.
Ruins the suspense for me, then. I dont want to know if hes watching until it happens, you know? if i can see hes looking elsewhere, its just...oh..yeah thats going to wreck his mineral line for sure.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
July 31 2017 19:48 GMT
#1297
On August 01 2017 04:01 Dazed. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 15:17 Dante08 wrote:
On July 31 2017 13:48 Dazed. wrote:
-Some of the graphics are a little too much, and distracting
- in particular watching the boxes of the players viewpoints on the mini map is extremely distracting, and pointless
- Dont like the lack of gradients on the hitboxes etc
- Personally not a fan of the zoom out and in option, not in the sense of having it, just its utilization for professional bw. Hopefully its not used often in the future.
- Honestly overall, the graphics arent bad, but I'm not a fan. Just too distracting.

Seriously. Why do so many things blow up in almost a nuclear fashion? Its over the top. This is a strategy games, effects shouldnt distract from the actual strategy, for viewers or players. If this is whats released I am certainly not going to be using updated graphics, and, likely, will curtail watching professional bw a great deal.

Meanwhile zerg death animations barely have any blood to them? lol wtf...

Jesus those scvs...

Burrowed lurkers look terrible...


On your first point I don't think it's pointless. It is useful in situations if you want to know where the player is focusing. For example the obs points to a dt wrecking all the drones and you can see if the zerg is paying attention by looking at the box.
Ruins the suspense for me, then. I dont want to know if hes watching until it happens, you know? if i can see hes looking elsewhere, its just...oh..yeah thats going to wreck his mineral line for sure.


I can see the argument for having an option to turn it off and on. Seeing player viewpoints is EXTREMELY useful for deep analysis and understanding where players focus their attention. But for live viewing, it's more distracting than helpful.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 31 2017 20:46 GMT
#1298
On August 01 2017 02:55 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 02:28 LightAngels wrote:
Why Stork didn't attend this event?

Because they invited the best player from each race.

So why was Jaedong there?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
July 31 2017 21:52 GMT
#1299
On August 01 2017 05:46 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 02:55 Jealous wrote:
On August 01 2017 02:28 LightAngels wrote:
Why Stork didn't attend this event?

Because they invited the best player from each race.

So why was Jaedong there?

Best player from each race, not necessarily best form. Jaedong carries more value by name than Effort or Larva or anyone outside of Yellow and maybe July, especially since the fall of Savior.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
July 31 2017 23:01 GMT
#1300
On August 01 2017 06:52 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 05:46 Ansibled wrote:
On August 01 2017 02:55 Jealous wrote:
On August 01 2017 02:28 LightAngels wrote:
Why Stork didn't attend this event?

Because they invited the best player from each race.

So why was Jaedong there?

Best player from each race, not necessarily best form. Jaedong carries more value by name than Effort or Larva or anyone outside of Yellow and maybe July, especially since the fall of Savior.

It's not a case of form. Jaedong is not the best zerg and only got invited because of his part in TBLS.
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