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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
April 16 2017 12:18 GMT
#121
LOOOOOOL.

Artosis just summed up every terrans frustration lategame TvP and Tasteless just summed up what protoss is doing when they achieve that position.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 16 2017 12:19 GMT
#122
this recall on carriers is dirty, man
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
April 16 2017 12:20 GMT
#123
typical protoss gayness.

I love it!
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50129 Posts
April 16 2017 12:21 GMT
#124
by the way, this is what every jaehoon PvT is like these days.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6598 Posts
April 16 2017 12:22 GMT
#125
Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
April 16 2017 12:24 GMT
#126
Poor light..
BW forever!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
April 16 2017 12:24 GMT
#127
Hoon'd
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50129 Posts
April 16 2017 12:24 GMT
#128
On April 16 2017 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/


it must be a pain to make ops and then research lockdown
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
April 16 2017 12:25 GMT
#129
On April 16 2017 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/


Gas intensive and TvP is already heavily gas intensive, especially when carriers are into the picture and you need to spend rounds on gas units (Goliaths) rather than vultures which you usually dump minerals into. Ghosts could definitely be viable if you can go upto 4-5 gas though then it's just a matter of people being too locked into the regular respone (just mass goliath).
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 16 2017 12:25 GMT
#130
hoon pvt!!!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
April 16 2017 12:25 GMT
#131
And one Terran is down.

I believed and LB'ed Light at least.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 12:26:59
April 16 2017 12:26 GMT
#132
On April 16 2017 21:24 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/


it must be a pain to make ops and then research lockdown

It's really expensive, Ghosts have a habit of dying in mine explosions, you basically get exactly one shot because if the Ghosts move up to cast Lockdown and the Carriers are microed back they all just die, even if you manage the perfect Lockdown clone you still have to beat the ground army with enough time left to actually kill all the Carriers, etc.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 16 2017 12:26 GMT
#133
Didn't know BW Skytoss can be just as dirty as SC2 Skytoss lol
gg no re thx
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10168 Posts
April 16 2017 12:27 GMT
#134
6/6 now in my predictions. lets see if i can go 12/12 in the round of 24 :D

well played by jaehoon, great carrier usage and good carrier micro.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 16 2017 12:27 GMT
#135
My explanation for this game is that someone told Light "just pretend you're playing TvT" to help him feel less nervous and he took it too literally
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
April 16 2017 12:29 GMT
#136
Was Light playing poorly in the last game? Should he had been more aggressive in mid-game? He had the economic lead.
gg no re thx
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
April 16 2017 12:31 GMT
#137
On April 16 2017 21:25 dignitas.merz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/


Gas intensive and TvP is already heavily gas intensive, especially when carriers are into the picture and you need to spend rounds on gas units (Goliaths) rather than vultures which you usually dump minerals into. Ghosts could definitely be viable if you can go upto 4-5 gas though then it's just a matter of people being too locked into the regular respone (just mass goliath).

I think outsider is a map where ghosts could be a good idea. They have to try something, 'cause look at this game. What could Light have done with his goliaths?
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6598 Posts
April 16 2017 12:31 GMT
#138
dunno guys,i think ghost lategame is not well explored,i see Scan lategame he is holding arbiters with Ghost,sure it is not easy and u need some high lvl mechanics.imagine lockdown atleast 5 6 carriers,u dont need that many goliaths to fight and u can give priority to ground army.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-16 12:36:17
April 16 2017 12:35 GMT
#139
You just can't let Protoss sit on 5+ bases on Outsider and expect to win lategame. Light was doing well up until he killed 12, but then he just kind of sat there with his army and didn't do anything besides the abortive attempt to kill 9, which he didn't follow up. I think if he pushes 9 and then inner 12 properly the game looks totally different.

e: Also the attempt to cliff the nat at like 17 minutes was just inexplicable.
rand0MPrecisi0n
Profile Joined February 2017
313 Posts
April 16 2017 12:41 GMT
#140
You guys are forgetting how the game got there. Light went for starport which messes up all his potential early timings, got shutdown in all attempts except for the 12 snipe, then kept making dropships, which is a big gas investment for someone that is on 2 gas, tried to kill the 9 but didn't target fire the nexus (tanks were shooting the assimilator). By that point Jaehoon had a critical mass, sniped 3 cc + the natural gas in 30 seconds and, on a map that favors air play so much I can't imagine what Light could've done from there
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