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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
Afreeca TV (BisuDagger and FlashFTW) Twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream | ||
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RJGooner
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c3rberUs
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ortseam
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On April 05 2017 07:04 Aylear wrote: Group A:  Shuttle  SoulkeyGroup B: Shine freeGroup C: Bisu JaehoonGroup D: hero RainGroup E: GuemChi ggaemoGroup F:  Last MovieI like to live dangerously. + Show Spoiler [ASL group A & B Spoilers] + So far I'm 2 for 4. Mong made it over Shuttle, and EffOrt made it over Free. For this group though I'm pretty sure about my predictions. For one thing, Bisu is here and he won't choke. I like Mini, and Light is can be all right, but I gotta give it to the Hoon. If Mini takes it through I'll be looking forward to more of his PvT style, but Jaehoon is fun no matter what he does. | ||
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c3rberUs
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ionONE
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
On April 16 2017 12:54 ionONE wrote: The twitch channel is now called: www.twitch.tv/asl lol god damn it Afreeca. | ||
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Epithet
United States840 Posts
Are BD & flashftw casting together today? On April 16 2017 12:52 c3rberUs wrote: That made me chuckle if it was intended ^^After Bisu, Jaehoon and Mini are kind of a tossup imo. | ||
BLinD-RawR
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On April 16 2017 12:52 c3rberUs wrote: After Bisu, Jaehoon and Mini are kind of a tossup imo (assuming Light doesn't go super saiyan.) Jaehoon still has stage nerves while Mini's inexperience on the booth might prove more fatal than enemy strats. Mini made it to the Ro8 in his first OSL. just putting it out there, hes no slouch in the booth. | ||
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Duckvillelol
Australia1256 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10360 Posts
On April 16 2017 12:13 Aylear wrote: + Show Spoiler [ASL group A & B Spoilers] + So far I'm 2 for 4. Mong made it over Shuttle, and EffOrt made it over Free. For this group though I'm pretty sure about my predictions. For one thing, Bisu is here and he won't choke. I like Mini, and Light is can be all right, but I gotta give it to the Hoon. If Mini takes it through I'll be looking forward to more of his PvT style, but Jaehoon is fun no matter what he does. I'm 4/4  | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10360 Posts
On April 16 2017 18:03 Epithet wrote: Aww yeahh more broodwar. Go Light! Are BD & flashftw casting together today? That made me chuckle if it was intended ^^ Looks like it's just me tonight again :/ if anyone wants to hop on let me know! I'm down to add another person to the cast! | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On April 16 2017 18:19 Duckvillelol wrote: Mini and Beesuit perhaps? This is what i'm thinking too | ||
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sixfour
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On April 16 2017 18:03 Epithet wrote: Aww yeahh more broodwar. Go Light! Are BD & flashftw casting together today? That made me chuckle if it was intended ^^ It's not intended I'm afraid. It's all natural | ||
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sixfour
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c3rberUs
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mdb
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sixfour
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sixfour
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Ej_
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xccam
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BLinD-RawR
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lol I take that back | ||
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Ej_
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sixfour
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On April 16 2017 19:23 xccam wrote: The make a lot of dragoons build, not sure that works against the make a lot of reavers build. It does | ||
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Terrorbladder
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mdb
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c3rberUs
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Terrorbladder
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Terrorbladder
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c3rberUs
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BLinD-RawR
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CoL_DarkstaR
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gngfn
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sixfour
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 16 2017 19:41 CoL_DarkstaR wrote: let's go! TvP! Where's the broodwar hype on a sunday, come on guys! I am the hype that burns brighter than a thousand suns. | ||
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sixfour
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gngfn
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Terrorbladder
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Ej_
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And then you get fucking cheesed. | ||
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Terrorbladder
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Cryoc
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LRM)TechnicS
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GTR
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Cryoc
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c3rberUs
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sixfour
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c3rberUs
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gngfn
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
and by jaehoon | ||
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c3rberUs
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On April 16 2017 20:01 gngfn wrote: I'd like everyone to envision for a moment a world in which Jaehoon and Light advance from this group it's not working | ||
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c3rberUs
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Terrorbladder
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Lucumo
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On April 16 2017 20:08 Lucumo wrote: Clearly Bisu only won because he got lucky. He won because he needs to be eliminated by Shine | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 16 2017 20:08 Lucumo wrote: Clearly Bisu only won because he got lucky. exactly what I meant when I said today's group would do nothing to justify #3 in power rank. | ||
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CoL_DarkstaR
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Terrorbladder
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mdb
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c3rberUs
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c3rberUs
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On April 16 2017 20:26 mdb wrote: is the nexus misplaced? Doesn't seem so | ||
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c3rberUs
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gngfn
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c3rberUs
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On April 16 2017 20:29 gngfn wrote: Hmm... When was the last time you saw Light and Fantasy in the same room? You can't see them in the same room | ||
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Terrorbladder
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Heyoka
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Lucumo
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sixfour
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Heyoka
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 16 2017 20:36 Heyoka wrote: this is the most light game aye | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Light walking through Mini's bridge | ||
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Terrorbladder
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gngfn
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c3rberUs
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Lucumo
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Terrorbladder
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Heyoka
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Ziggy
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On April 16 2017 20:43 gngfn wrote: I don't understand what Light has been doing with his army at all for like the last 6 minutes Quite surprising he allowed the Carriers count get to such high numbers, given how large CB is | ||
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gngfn
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gngfn
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On April 16 2017 20:46 c3rberUs wrote: Does mini have the eco to replace his interceptors? No, they're all down to like half capacity. Mini is basically completely done | ||
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Lucumo
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Terrorbladder
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gngfn
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??? I guess he must have forgotten the upgrade, been too poor for it, and just merged because what else are you gonna do with HTs with no upgrades | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Qikz
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Askalaphos
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Lucumo
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On April 16 2017 20:48 gngfn wrote: I too prefer Archons to Psionic Storm vs. Goliaths ??? Archons don't trigger mines at least  | ||
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Terrorbladder
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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CoL_DarkstaR
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sixfour
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
Great game. Light is really good in crazy situations. | ||
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FlaShFTW
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gngfn
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Heyoka
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 16 2017 21:00 Heyoka wrote: something something recall what was that? I cannot recall | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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sixfour
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BLinD-RawR
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I'm watching Jaehoon alright. I still think the logic here is that carriers can be recalled pretty easily | ||
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nojok
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
Artosis just summed up every terrans frustration lategame TvP and Tasteless just summed up what protoss is doing when they achieve that position. | ||
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Heyoka
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hitthat
Poland2340 Posts
I love it! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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HaFnium
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 16 2017 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/ it must be a pain to make ops and then research lockdown | ||
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merz
Sweden2760 Posts
On April 16 2017 21:22 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: Why terran never makes ghost to hold carriers ? :/ Gas intensive and TvP is already heavily gas intensive, especially when carriers are into the picture and you need to spend rounds on gas units (Goliaths) rather than vultures which you usually dump minerals into. Ghosts could definitely be viable if you can go upto 4-5 gas though then it's just a matter of people being too locked into the regular respone (just mass goliath). | ||
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Lucumo
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I believed and LB'ed Light at least. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On April 16 2017 21:24 BLinD-RawR wrote: it must be a pain to make ops and then research lockdown It's really expensive, Ghosts have a habit of dying in mine explosions, you basically get exactly one shot because if the Ghosts move up to cast Lockdown and the Carriers are microed back they all just die, even if you manage the perfect Lockdown clone you still have to beat the ground army with enough time left to actually kill all the Carriers, etc. | ||
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RKC
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FlaShFTW
United States10360 Posts
well played by jaehoon, great carrier usage and good carrier micro. | ||
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gngfn
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RKC
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On April 16 2017 21:25 dignitas.merz wrote: Gas intensive and TvP is already heavily gas intensive, especially when carriers are into the picture and you need to spend rounds on gas units (Goliaths) rather than vultures which you usually dump minerals into. Ghosts could definitely be viable if you can go upto 4-5 gas though then it's just a matter of people being too locked into the regular respone (just mass goliath). I think outsider is a map where ghosts could be a good idea. They have to try something, 'cause look at this game. What could Light have done with his goliaths? | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
e: Also the attempt to cliff the nat at like 17 minutes was just inexplicable. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On April 16 2017 21:31 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: dunno guys,i think ghost lategame is not well explored,i see Scan lategame he is holding arbiters with Ghost,sure it is not easy and u need some high lvl mechanics.imagine lockdown atleast 5 6 carriers,u dont need that many goliaths to fight and u can give priority to ground army. Mong have shown it's effective as well. But it has to be practiced and explored like you point out. | ||
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rand0MPrecisi0n
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sixfour
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konadora
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9530 Posts
On April 16 2017 21:44 sixfour wrote: I see nobody's fixed the OP design so we can actually read the results of the polls without highlighting over them There, fixed just for you. ^^ | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
You're a god among men. | ||
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Crisium
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Neo7
United States922 Posts
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plast1c
Germany101 Posts
On April 17 2017 08:03 Crisium wrote: Poor mini missing that bottom left base though. It will be brutal for him to watch the replay :D | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4141 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
On April 17 2017 22:48 Dante08 wrote: Just watched the games and they were awesome! Also lesson learnt from Light vs Jaehoon - you have to win within the first 15-20mins in TvP or else carriers are impossible to deal with late game. Nah, it depends on the map a lot. On most maps if you scan them in time, you're fine - even if you don't scan them in time you can usually stabilize. On maps where there's a lot of impassable terrain or different sections that require going all around to come to, they're stronger though. | ||
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Singapore4141 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12027 Posts
On April 18 2017 14:08 Dante08 wrote: Yeah I was referring to Outsider which seems impossible to defend against Carriers late game. The lack of gas expansions doesn't help either. If you want to you can techonically float and take double gas. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
 On April 19 2017 00:23 Qikz wrote: If you want to you can techonically float and take double gas. agree, always wondered why this doesn't happen often enough. Harder to defend? Not worth it? | ||
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
On April 21 2017 07:26 BigFan wrote: Sad for Light. Jaehoon abuses every trick in the book for protoss! dark templars, storms, carriers etc... lol. Poor light, he beat Shuttle last ASL in a crazy game too to get to the final match and here he beats Mini in a crazy game only to lose to Jaehoon agree, always wondered why this doesn't happen often enough. Harder to defend? Not worth it? I don't think Terran ever needs more gas geysirs than mineral lines. Every unit T masses costs more minerals than gas. The only occurrence where I can imagine this being useful would be a mass wraith build to counter a fast carrier build with late obs. But T would have to know about the carriers so early that it might not be applicable at all. This is probably mainly a Zerg option if they want to go for a mass muta or mass lurker style which requires as much minerals as gas. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On April 21 2017 10:37 Cryoc wrote: I don't think Terran ever needs more gas geysirs than mineral lines. Every unit T masses costs more minerals than gas. The only occurrence where I can imagine this being useful would be a mass wraith build to counter a fast carrier build with late obs. But T would have to know about the carriers so early that it might not be applicable at all. This is probably mainly a Zerg option if they want to go for a mass muta or mass lurker style which requires as much minerals as gas. hmm fair point. I'm mostly thinking of this in terms of Outsider where the Terran can have his main, back expos and grab those two gases+expo on the side but maybe that's too much gas then. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3338 Posts
sad that mini lost the way he did. Cool to see him doing well tho | ||
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