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United States10021 Posts
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.
Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?
It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.
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On August 16 2016 20:14 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Thank god Sea's winning.
Would've been so so disappointing to watch my first series in years and see him lose.
Gotta root against your mate, sorry. Or else there's 3 terran in the semis. And there's only 1 zerg and 2 protoss in the quarters.
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On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.
Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW? It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.
So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?
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Whats the viewer count across all streams? I don't see the original korean afreeca broadcast on the sidebar
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On August 16 2016 20:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.
Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW? It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base. So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?
easily, unless there's a tank or a vessel.
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Ahhhh much better. Once again just in time for the start of the game.
(I tech switched to a number 1 this time Infernal, hopefully it helps Hero win)
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On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.
Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?
Good game? Not really. Sea took out Hero's third with a timing and Hero could never recover.
The map? I think it might be a little terran favored in the matchup but it's new so I (as someone who doesn't play) don't know how it's really going to shake out.
Zerg ahead in bases? Yes. They should be ahead in bases usually in both matchups.
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On August 16 2016 20:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.
Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW? It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base. So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?
Yep. Marines have a miss chance unless they actually get up the ramp. Two lurkers instantly kill marines with no armour upgrades.
Combine that with mutalisks/zerglings to block and the terran is not getting up that ramp unless the terran is destroying you or the terran has tanks/vessels/dropships.
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TLADT24920 Posts
On August 16 2016 20:22 iNfeRnaL wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 20:15 BigFan wrote:On August 16 2016 20:11 Miragee wrote:
lol, fuck anti air. Just irradiate everything. lol. Sea knew he was so far ahead that he'll irridiate all air units  Nah he's just human after all, he didn't expect muta switch while dealing with lurk/ling/swarm but knowing the game, it's not really possible to do a switch dangerous enough to mech while being on lurk/ling/swarm, yea...  E: I already told him that with LB! Forgot to quote him tho 
ya, I was making a joke ^^ Sea was way too far ahead to lose that and had turrets all over too.
On August 16 2016 20:23 opisska wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.
Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW? It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base. So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?
yes, two lurkers on a ramp can hold endless bio because the units will walk straight up and get shredded (before tanks/vessels upset that). Hopefully this next game demonstrates that much better
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Are there any small glitches you're not allowed to use in BW tourneys at all?
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Interesting info, thanks people.
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On August 16 2016 20:27 NoS-Craig wrote:
Are there any small glitches you're not allowed to use in BW tourneys at all?
Just off hand I can remember the go.go scv trick that got banned after he used it.
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On August 16 2016 20:22 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2016 20:14 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Thank god Sea's winning.
Would've been so so disappointing to watch my first series in years and see him lose. Gotta root against your mate, sorry. Or else there's 3 terran in the semis. And there's only 1 zerg and 2 protoss in the quarters.
I feel you on the racial balance point of view, but Sea has been a good friend of mine, so personally I hardly have a choice here
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Alright cool I might look up those glitches after the games. ty
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TLADT24920 Posts
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Sea definitely not gonna kill 3rd this time, doesn't look like he's trying either.
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The reason hero didn't have lurkers in time in the previous game is that he started hydra den after starting his hive
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Not that sure if it was worth it, despite what the casters are saying...
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On August 16 2016 20:33 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Not that sure if it was worth it, despite what the casters are saying...
Worth it since zerg can now outmacro terran now. Hero is ahead IMO
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