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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10563 Posts
August 16 2016 11:22 GMT
#161
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.

Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?

It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.
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coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
August 16 2016 11:22 GMT
#162
On August 16 2016 20:14 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Thank god Sea's winning.
Would've been so so disappointing to watch my first series in years and see him lose.


Gotta root against your mate, sorry. Or else there's 3 terran in the semis. And there's only 1 zerg and 2 protoss in the quarters.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 16 2016 11:23 GMT
#163
On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.

Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?

It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.


So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 16 2016 11:23 GMT
#164
Whats the viewer count across all streams? I don't see the original korean afreeca broadcast on the sidebar
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coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
August 16 2016 11:23 GMT
#165
On August 16 2016 20:23 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.

Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?

It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.


So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?


easily, unless there's a tank or a vessel.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
August 16 2016 11:23 GMT
#166
Ahhhh much better. Once again just in time for the start of the game.

(I tech switched to a number 1 this time Infernal, hopefully it helps Hero win)
Artosis loves Starcraft
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 16 2016 11:24 GMT
#167
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.

Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?


Good game? Not really. Sea took out Hero's third with a timing and Hero could never recover.

The map? I think it might be a little terran favored in the matchup but it's new so I (as someone who doesn't play) don't know how it's really going to shake out.

Zerg ahead in bases? Yes. They should be ahead in bases usually in both matchups.
goddamndell
Profile Joined July 2016
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 11:27:30
August 16 2016 11:24 GMT
#168
On August 16 2016 20:23 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.

Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?

It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.


So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?


Yep. Marines have a miss chance unless they actually get up the ramp. Two lurkers instantly kill marines with no armour upgrades.

Combine that with mutalisks/zerglings to block and the terran is not getting up that ramp unless the terran is destroying you or the terran has tanks/vessels/dropships.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 11:26:15
August 16 2016 11:25 GMT
#169
On August 16 2016 20:22 iNfeRnaL wrote:
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On August 16 2016 20:15 BigFan wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:11 Miragee wrote:
lol, fuck anti air. Just irradiate everything.

lol. Sea knew he was so far ahead that he'll irridiate all air units

Nah he's just human after all, he didn't expect muta switch while dealing with lurk/ling/swarm but knowing the game, it's not really possible to do a switch dangerous enough to mech while being on lurk/ling/swarm, yea...
E: I already told him that with LB! Forgot to quote him tho

ya, I was making a joke ^^ Sea was way too far ahead to lose that and had turrets all over too.

On August 16 2016 20:23 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:22 FlaShFTW wrote:
On August 16 2016 20:17 opisska wrote:
Hi guys, are you willing to educate someone who never watched competitive BW? I played for a couple of years, so I know what the units and abilities are, but have no idea about how real games are supposed to go.

Was this a good game? It looks fun, but Hero was really behind most of the time, right? Is this map Zerg disfavored? It seems hard to take bases - is Zerg supposed to be ahead of the Terran in base count in BW?

It was a decent game up until hero forgot to get lurkers like a moron and lost his 3rd. after that he was way too far behind. the map is kinda even though maybe a bit T favored. And Zerg needs to reach 4 gas to be competitive in this meta of TvZ, and hero failed to do that especially after his failed 3rd base.


So the two lurkers on the ramp Wolf was raving about would have really held all that bio?

yes, two lurkers on a ramp can hold endless bio because the units will walk straight up and get shredded (before tanks/vessels upset that). Hopefully this next game demonstrates that much better
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
August 16 2016 11:27 GMT
#170
Are there any small glitches you're not allowed to use in BW tourneys at all?
Artosis loves Starcraft
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 16 2016 11:27 GMT
#171
Interesting info, thanks people.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 11:28:07
August 16 2016 11:27 GMT
#172
On August 16 2016 20:27 NoS-Craig wrote:
Are there any small glitches you're not allowed to use in BW tourneys at all?

I know there were. Don't know them, but there are.

edit:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Competitive_Rules
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 16 2016 11:27 GMT
#173
On August 16 2016 20:27 NoS-Craig wrote:
Are there any small glitches you're not allowed to use in BW tourneys at all?

Just off hand I can remember the go.go scv trick that got banned after he used it.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 16 2016 11:29 GMT
#174
On August 16 2016 20:22 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 20:14 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Thank god Sea's winning.
Would've been so so disappointing to watch my first series in years and see him lose.


Gotta root against your mate, sorry. Or else there's 3 terran in the semis. And there's only 1 zerg and 2 protoss in the quarters.

I feel you on the racial balance point of view, but Sea has been a good friend of mine, so personally I hardly have a choice here
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3165 Posts
August 16 2016 11:31 GMT
#175
Alright cool I might look up those glitches after the games. ty
Artosis loves Starcraft
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 16 2016 11:31 GMT
#176
gonna be close!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 16 2016 11:32 GMT
#177
Sea definitely not gonna kill 3rd this time, doesn't look like he's trying either.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
August 16 2016 11:33 GMT
#178
The reason hero didn't have lurkers in time in the previous game is that he started hydra den after starting his hive
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
August 16 2016 11:33 GMT
#179
Not that sure if it was worth it, despite what the casters are saying...
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 16 2016 11:34 GMT
#180
On August 16 2016 20:33 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Not that sure if it was worth it, despite what the casters are saying...


Worth it since zerg can now outmacro terran now. Hero is ahead IMO
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