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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 19 2016 15:43 GMT
#261
It's not just the players who are mad. The bw fans are pissed at the league for letting these things happen.
Also some of the players told the mapmaker before hand that there was a mineral mining problem with overwatch. The mapmaker ignored this issue.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 19 2016 15:49 GMT
#262
Someone on YGOSU compared mineral mining between 11oclock and 5oclock.
He put 24 scvs on both of them... results afters 2 min.. 11olock mined 1966 more minerals
SOURCE
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 19 2016 16:28 GMT
#263
On July 20 2016 00:06 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote:
overwatch has potential ot be a solid map.

taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance

They are gonna patch overwatch. Apparently mineral mining at 1oclock and 5oclock have huge problem. Poor Sea....


game breaking if true

really fucking game breaking
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 19 2016 16:46 GMT
#264
On July 20 2016 01:28 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 00:06 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote:
overwatch has potential ot be a solid map.

taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance

They are gonna patch overwatch. Apparently mineral mining at 1oclock and 5oclock have huge problem. Poor Sea....


game breaking if true

really fucking game breaking

Really fucked up thing is some of the players told the mapmaker beforehand of this issue.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 16:47:36
July 19 2016 16:47 GMT
#265
xkcd + bisudagger VODS: http://afreeca.tv/36846806/v/39042

bisudagger showed up late ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
July 19 2016 16:53 GMT
#266
Ummm. 1966 - 1792 = 174 minerals difference in 2 minutes advantage for 5.
Still huge.
(Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.)
FBH #1!
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 19 2016 16:53 GMT
#267
On July 20 2016 01:53 Peeano wrote:
Ummm. 1966 - 1792 = 174 minerals difference in 2 minutes advantage for 5.
Still huge.
(Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.)


if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
July 19 2016 16:55 GMT
#268
On July 20 2016 01:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:53 Peeano wrote:
Ummm. 1966 - 1792 = 174 minerals difference in 2 minutes advantage for 5.
Still huge.
(Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.)


if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much

Yeah I think it's mainly terran problem
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4990 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 16:57:07
July 19 2016 16:56 GMT
#269
On July 20 2016 01:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:53 Peeano wrote:
Ummm. 1966 - 1792 = 174 minerals difference in 2 minutes advantage for 5.
Still huge.
Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero


if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much

(Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.)
On July 20 2016 01:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
xkcd + bisudagger VODS: http://afreeca.tv/36846806/v/39042

bisudagger showed up late ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ

I got your back, I posted and linked VODs like 2 minutes after stream ended
FBH #1!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6587 Posts
July 19 2016 16:57 GMT
#270
On July 20 2016 01:46 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:28 amazingxkcd wrote:
On July 20 2016 00:06 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote:
overwatch has potential ot be a solid map.

taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance

They are gonna patch overwatch. Apparently mineral mining at 1oclock and 5oclock have huge problem. Poor Sea....


game breaking if true

really fucking game breaking

Really fucked up thing is some of the players told the mapmaker beforehand of this issue.

There is thread talking about every bug and a better version of this map
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 19 2016 16:58 GMT
#271
On July 20 2016 01:56 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
On July 20 2016 01:53 Peeano wrote:
Ummm. 1966 - 1792 = 174 minerals difference in 2 minutes advantage for 5.
Still huge.
Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero


if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much

(Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.)
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
xkcd + bisudagger VODS: http://afreeca.tv/36846806/v/39042

bisudagger showed up late ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ‘Œ

I got your back, I posted and linked VODs like 2 minutes after stream ended


thanks! now we gotta pull the viewers away from the gsl stream :D
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 18:27:26
July 19 2016 17:03 GMT
#272
Flash 1-0
Best 0-1

I was looking forward to seeing God smash Best into pieces. How ironic it will be if Best cannot even make it through the group stage.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3613 Posts
July 19 2016 17:33 GMT
#273
On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote:
taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance


Fix the bugs, but I'm in favor of having non-standard maps in the pool, especially for 1v1 tournaments where there aren't that many games. Force creative play as well as standard.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
xccam
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Great Britain1150 Posts
July 19 2016 19:27 GMT
#274
On July 20 2016 00:49 classicyellow83 wrote:
Someone on YGOSU compared mineral mining between 11oclock and 5oclock.
He put 24 scvs on both of them... results afters 2 min.. 11olock mined 1966 more minerals
SOURCE

I think its actually saying it mined 1966 minerals, 174 more than 5oclock which mined 1792.

Still a big deal, but 2k minerals in 2 minutes would be ridiculous.
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
July 19 2016 19:46 GMT
#275
After watching best vs hero, this looks to me that 1 base builds are the only chance in PvZ. There is no way to win a macro game on this map without having a huge advantage as Protoss.
Even forge expand gets punished with a regular tech build by Zerg. Fast lurkers can deny mining a long time even with pretty fast robo and P cannot even trade efficiently on that tiny cliff. And even if P gets a hold of his natural, there is like no way to ever secure additional bases before Zerg has the entire map as they are so far away.
At least we will probably get some unorthodox builds, that can work once. Well either that or consecutive proxy gates.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
July 19 2016 19:54 GMT
#276
Best vs hero was really fun to watch. Map imbalance or not, hero played that very well.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19239 Posts
July 19 2016 21:00 GMT
#277
On July 20 2016 01:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2016 01:46 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 20 2016 01:28 amazingxkcd wrote:
On July 20 2016 00:06 classicyellow83 wrote:
On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote:
overwatch has potential ot be a solid map.

taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance

They are gonna patch overwatch. Apparently mineral mining at 1oclock and 5oclock have huge problem. Poor Sea....


game breaking if true

really fucking game breaking

Really fucked up thing is some of the players told the mapmaker beforehand of this issue.

There is thread talking about every bug and a better version of this map

Some pros including zero have played on the fixed foreign version of the map and like it.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-19 22:02:35
July 19 2016 21:22 GMT
#278
what a shitty map is taebaek sanmaek, i cant believe its on official league. Watching best vs hero making me sad. its like its made to cut all the protoss chances when playing vs zerg while adding new possibilities for the zerg.
They need to BAN this map forever ASAP.

Arent there some serious complaints from the players already? It is so obvious that the map is pure crap, didnt commentators mention something about it?
I cannot believe such atrocities can be allowed to happen in events on that level.
Luv ya BroodWar!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
July 19 2016 22:02 GMT
#279
Okay, just have to rant here for a moment.

So I started my SC journey here on TL watching BW in arguably its prime (late 2000s, JD, Flash, Effort, Stork, Bisu etc being awesome). Pretty much every game was a white-knuckle, "holy shit I'm drooling but can't help myself because this is so suspenseful" kind of situation.

I'm so motherfuckin' glad BW is being cast again, especially by Tastosis. I'm a Zerg fanboy through and through, but even the Flash vs. Zero game the other day was incredibly entertaining. I don't really care so much about the forced mechanics (12 unit control groups, having to make every worker mine, etc), but just the back and forth nature of this game is amazing.

This is what esports is really about for me. I've watched HotS, Overwatch, LoL, and several others but none come even close to the amazingness that is BW. This is so freaking fantastic. I'm just drunk on ecstasy watching these VODs. TY Mr. Chae, Afreeca, Tastosis, etc.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51450 Posts
July 19 2016 22:34 GMT
#280
On July 19 2016 23:15 Essbee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2016 23:12 RKC wrote:
GTR: Please cast with Tasteless next week!


Is GTR in korea? That would be awesome.


i wish, but i flew back to australia saturday afternoon.
i'm betting that it will be rapid casting with tasteeless since he knows quite a bit about the brood war era from talking with him.
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