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[ASL] Ro16 Day 2
| Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments |
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) Youtube Korean Stream Youtube English Stream + Show Spoiler [Group B] + + Show Spoiler [Group C] + + Show Spoiler [Group D] + | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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The_Red_Viper
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This day was really hard to liquibet for me just because i don't have a good idea about the current strength of these players tbh. | ||
Peeano
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Peeano
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I'm quite concerned for BeSt, going FFE seems like a poor choice on this map. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On July 19 2016 12:00 Peeano wrote: Prech is under the impression that AfreecaTV StarLeague's YouTube channel 'might' directly stream the broadcast as well, but I doubt it. Anyway, if they do it could be a great source for some viewers. it definitely seems like it but with youtube live streams you can only post a link when the stream goes live. | ||
prech
United States2948 Posts
 hero vs  Best, strong match-ups for both, and our first glimpse of ZvP on Taebaek in competitionfree vs  sSak should be good too, each at his best respective match-up, on familiar terrain! | ||
BisuDagger
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usopsama
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Probemicro
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larva mind hero i hope BeSt can come up with a good build on Taebaek though, otherwise his chances of getting out of the group (and stopping Flash's casual stroll to the ASL title) are slim | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
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Wrath
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
I am hoping that YT will have a stream so I can actually watch LQ. | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On July 19 2016 13:49 Wrath wrote: I really hate this schedule. I can't watch any game live =( | ||
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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xboi209
United States1173 Posts
On July 19 2016 13:49 Wrath wrote: I really hate this schedule. I can't watch any game live It starts at 3 in the morning and the Koreans say that us foreigners aren't interested in Brood War which is why they don't normally have English-speaking casters. | ||
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Zera
Lithuania716 Posts
On July 19 2016 12:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: it definitely seems like it but with youtube live streams you can only post a link when the stream goes live. You can link it before the event starts if channel sets a schedule beforehand. Like This | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 14:50 Zera wrote: You can link it before the event starts if channel sets a schedule beforehand. Like This but thats not the case here though. | ||
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Wrath
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BLinD-RawR
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Wrath
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On July 19 2016 15:37 BLinD-RawR wrote: they should really stream on azubucom LOL WTF IS THAT | ||
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Essbee
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Wrath
3174 Posts
I'm very excited for the first TvP Same. Hopefully it can educate those who are coming from SC2 about the possibilities if mech ever became viable. Anyway this could be the only game I'll be able to watch live as twitch / afreeca won't be blocked by that time. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On July 19 2016 15:37 BLinD-RawR wrote: they should really stream on azubucom They should | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On July 19 2016 13:27 Probemicro wrote: free larva mind hero i hope BeSt can come up with a good build on Taebaek though, otherwise his chances of getting out of the group (and stopping Flash's casual stroll to the ASL title) are slim We still have Last to stop Flash... right? | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
Effort, Last, Best have a decent chance to stop Flash. IMO 50:50 for each to win | ||
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Essbee
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Probemicro
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On July 19 2016 16:15 duke91 wrote: Effort, Last, Best have a decent chance to stop Flash. IMO 50:50 for each to win i would strike effort off seeing how inconsistent he is on stream. (believe me i watch effort a ton last year and now i cringe a lot every time i see his play nowadays) based off records last would be 50:50, best is definitely better than 50:50. | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On July 19 2016 16:16 Essbee wrote: Damn, last minute change of plan for me. I will go next sunday instead, my wife feels sick at the moment and I told her I will stay here. So yeah, I will just watch the stream today. Sorry prech, I'll take pictures next time, is that alright? Meeeh can't decide if I wanna go now. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
Sorry man, I'll be there on sunday for sure. | ||
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Alur
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 17:32 Alur wrote: Lol no worries, if anything you saved me some money since I won't be missing the free dinner at my 하숙집 Oh, that's good then  Let's just hang out in this LR thread instead ;p | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
A)Free B)Larva C)Sea D)Best | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Youtube Korean Stream | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
hyped | ||
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Chrispy
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Ej_
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:06 Ej_ wrote: Sea also changing his ID to a worse one I blame afreeca for letting him use it officially. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
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Proflo
United States148 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On July 19 2016 18:57 Chrispy wrote: I don't know why they don't list the game under the Brood War category. I think that would improve their viewercount with people coming in from the frontpage of Twitch and seeing Brood War in the top 12. It actually really annoys me and pisses me off that they set it under SC2 and not BW. They did the same thing with all the other broadcasts so far, such as the Finals of the last league I think it was? Whatever the last BW thing Tastosis ended up casting was. It really annoys me way more than it should. If they are trying to get extra viewers honestly I thinking categorizing the stream under BW instead of SC2 would get them even more viewers. People would see 5k+ watching Brood War and be like wtf is going on? And then see that there is a real BW tournament happening. | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
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Proflo
United States148 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:08 atrox_ wrote: trying to listen to all 3 audios at once doesn't work fyi Thanks for the heads up! | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1074 Posts
Used to like tastosis but I feel they are catering too much to the sc2 crowds.. | ||
GTR
51449 Posts
which you wouldn't expect considering he was a (relatively) good pro lol | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:18 GTR wrote: i wonder if shine is observing the bw games as well, cause he's doing a terrible job. which you wouldn't expect considering he was a (relatively) good pro lol well he was also better at SC2 than people (Artosis) give him credit for, but he's an awful observer | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:08 Hall0wed wrote: It actually really annoys me and pisses me off that they set it under SC2 and not BW. They did the same thing with all the other broadcasts so far, such as the Finals of the last league I think it was? Whatever the last BW thing Tastosis ended up casting was. It really annoys me way more than it should. If they are trying to get extra viewers honestly I thinking categorizing the stream under BW instead of SC2 would get them even more viewers. People would see 5k+ watching Brood War and be like wtf is going on? And then see that there is a real BW tournament happening. If they put it on Brood War, it's going to be the 13th most viewed game on Twitch, whereas it's now on 8th. In terms of streams, it's 9th overall vs all other streams. It's a symbiotic thing; it piggybacks off SC2's mindshare in Western audiences, and the increased visibility also helps audience counts. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:18 GTR wrote: i wonder if shine is observing the bw games as well, cause he's doing a terrible job. which you wouldn't expect considering he was a (relatively) good pro lol Totally felt this way when I watched the Day 1 games, the observing felt so bad. This would totally make sense. | ||
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GumBa
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Ej_
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KameZerg
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GumBa
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:21 Ciryandor wrote: If they put it on Brood War, it's going to be the 13th most viewed game on Twitch, whereas it's now on 8th. In terms of streams, it's 9th overall vs all other streams. It's a symbiotic thing; it piggybacks off SC2's mindshare in Western audiences, and the increased visibility also helps audience counts. Yeah I see where you're coming from, and really I don't think it is as bad as my brain tries to make it. I'm pretty sure it is just the perfectionist inside of me that is annoyed by this being labeled under SC2 and I can see why they would keep it labeled as such. | ||
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atrox_
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Looms
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:26 Hall0wed wrote: Yeah I see where you're coming from, and really I don't think it is as my brain tries to make it. I'm pretty sure it is just the perfectionist inside of me that is annoyed by this being labeled under SC2 and I can see why they would keep it labeled as such. I had the same objection last Sunday, then again I'm used to actually looking for BW streams, but searching by channel was much easier. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:27 Looms wrote: oh man those storms on the stasis Either mistimed it, or BM storms. Nearer to the latter though, with the GG | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:08 Proflo wrote: wew lads it's really happening, making bw great again :') make blizzard pay for it | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
Or they'll make us pay for an HD remake. | ||
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:26 Hall0wed wrote: Yeah I see where you're coming from, and really I don't think it is as my brain tries to make it. I'm pretty sure it is just the perfectionist inside of me that is annoyed by this being labeled under SC2 and I can see why they would keep it labeled as such. I'd prefer it being under SCBW. Otherwise people would be fooled by the supposed SC2 activity | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:18 GTR wrote: i wonder if shine is observing the bw games as well, cause he's doing a terrible job. which you wouldn't expect considering he was a (relatively) good pro lol That's what I've told in the first day. The obs is bad, noticeably bad. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:26 ICanFlyLow wrote: im sick of the constant sc2 cross references, just commentate the game instead. The entire tournament seems as though it will be labeled under the SC2 section, and partly as a result I think you will continually hear such things. I think there are a fair amount of viewers that have barely watched BW or even haven't seen it at all so the constant reminder of all the differences is really important for lots of people right now. Maybe in later rounds we won't hear any of it but right now I see no problem with it. On July 19 2016 19:31 duke91 wrote: I'd prefer it being under SCBW. Otherwise people would be fooled by the supposed SC2 activity I mean this was part of my thinking, people seeing BW high up in the games list could certainly pull a lot more people in than if the same people saw SC2 in the top 10 of the list. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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GumBa
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BLinD-RawR
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On July 19 2016 19:33 GumBa wrote: I was hoping for a if you have any free time pun in the polls. I'm rusty with LR threads, also can;t make edits on the fly or I'll break the OP. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:31 Hall0wed wrote: The entire tournament seems as though it will be labeled under the SC2 section, and partly as a result I think you will continually hear such things. I think there are a fair amount of viewers that have barely watched BW or even haven't seen it at all so the constant reminder of all the differences is really important for lots of people right now. Maybe in later rounds we won't hear any of it but right now I see no problem with it. Look at it in a similar manner as the SCBW/SC2 hybrid league. | ||
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GumBa
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BLinD-RawR
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
Flash Yellow Bisu Nal_ra FUCKCKCKCKCCKC | ||
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atrox_
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GTR
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
99 : 1 | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:39 classicyellow83 wrote: KT GIGA Legends Match Flash Yellow Bisu Nal_ra FUCKCKCKCKCCKC is this afreeca or OGN? | ||
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juvenal
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BLinD-RawR
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
never forget | ||
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Ciryandor
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BLinD-RawR
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Ej_
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On July 19 2016 19:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: its PvZ if he makes an arbiter I'll laugh so hard. I can't say I'm ruling it out TBH. | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
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[17]Purple
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
how about recalling observer only? | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:48 [17]Purple wrote: Brood War with more viewers than SC2, what year is it? CURRENT YEAR! | ||
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GumBa
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BLinD-RawR
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Ej_
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Does a reverse Artosis curse work in BW? | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
No WCS here to destroy BW :D | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:52 BLinD-RawR wrote: one day a zerg will win in the ASL, maybe today. Isn't hero legit? | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:52 BLinD-RawR wrote: one day a zerg will win in the ASL, maybe today. there's no way herO beats BeSt | ||
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Ciryandor
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GumBa
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6585 Posts
zvp god... | ||
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GumBa
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Peeano
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:57 GumBa wrote: Streaming culture is on a whole new level in korea isn't it. its always been on its own level, ever since mokbang was a thing. | ||
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juvenal
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if not hero, than who's the hero who's going to best best? | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
Yeah, hero still has his sick ZvP. It won't be a stomping. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Ej_
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On July 19 2016 19:58 juvenal wrote: if not hero, than who's the hero who's going to best best? probably Jaehoon with dark templars | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On July 19 2016 19:58 BisuDagger wrote: Yeah, hero still has his sick ZvP. It won't be a stomping. its shakebake mountains, his lings will find a way into his main no matter how hard BeSt tries. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 19:58 juvenal wrote: if not hero, than who's the hero who's going to best best? the last to best last is the best hero to best best | ||
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GumBa
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Ej_
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[17]Purple
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:02 Ej_ wrote: sick prediction by Artosis Breaking math and chewing bubble gum | ||
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GumBa
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stevorino
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:03 GumBa wrote: Fuck new ids. Sea 4lyfe homies nobody calls him noinsung, everyone will always call him sea. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6585 Posts
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:03 GumBa wrote: Fuck new ids. Sea 4lyfe homies yeah wtf is noinsung? | ||
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gingerfluffmuff
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machinus
United States291 Posts
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:04 gingerfluffmuff wrote: how do u even pronounce noinsung? I guess thats the main reason Like "no insu(ng)"rance? maybe dunno the f im saying | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: nobody calls him noinsung, everyone will always call him sea. I wasn't saying that. I just wanted to voice my DISGUST on it you diggity dig me dawg. | ||
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GumBa
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Ciryandor
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Ej_
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actually all of his marines | ||
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GTR
51449 Posts
sung/성 = the last character of his korean name so basically translates to old man sea | ||
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Wrath
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letian
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GumBa
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repomaniak
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:07 GTR wrote: noin/노인 = old man sung/성 = the last character of his korean name so basically translates to old man sea Thanks. Didnt know 노인 was old man. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:09 repomaniak wrote: guys what are those maps? 2 new maps for this specific starleague | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:09 repomaniak wrote: guys what are those maps? new map ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/commons/images/5/52/Overwatch_1.1_ASL_Map.jpg) | ||
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GumBa
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Thought that was the valve symbol in the middle for a second there. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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letian
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BLinD-RawR
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On July 19 2016 20:11 GumBa wrote: Thought that was the valve symbol in the middle for a second there. its the overwatch symbol thats why the map is called overwatch | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:12 letian wrote: Sea is playing horrible, this is sad judging from his player cam he's fully aware hah | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:12 letian wrote: Sea is playing horrible, this is sad the runby with vultures wasnt too shabby... but yeah... | ||
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Ciryandor
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phosphorylation
United States2935 Posts
no (노)= literally 'no' insung (인성) = personal character/value basically a self-deprecating nickname saying that he has bad personal character because it ends with 성, last character of his name, it also evokes his korean name -- a common way to create a new nicknames in korea. i agree that its a shitty nickname.. | ||
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GumBa
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Wrath
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Ciryandor
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:16 Ciryandor wrote: 4th most watched stream and 10th most watched game solely on the back of this tournament. What is happening?! Are we going full Melee? | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
And today he was just horrible. | ||
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Essbee
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:16 [17]Purple wrote: please dont use those colours again, even the Vultures got me confused. Are we going full Melee? colours are random | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:15 Wrath wrote: Games today are so fast.. And pretty bad compared to Sunday's games tbh, at least imo | ||
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GTR
51449 Posts
obs could have allied one of the players and did the tab color thing | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
If the finals pulls in 20k viewers and has Flash in it... | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:18 BLinD-RawR wrote: the thing about BW scene right now is that the superstars make more money not playing in the tournament than if they do. that's quite a problem, is there anything they could do about this? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:19 Essbee wrote: that's quite a problem, is there anything they could do about this? I don't really know, but thats kinda why bisu turned down a seeded spot in the tournament. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: I don't really know, but thats kinda why bisu turned down a seeded spot in the tournament. He got more money for the appearance fee in the Legends match? What. | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: I don't really know, but thats kinda why bisu turned down a seeded spot in the tournament. Yeah I know, that's why it's really something I wish they could do something about | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: I don't really know, but thats kinda why bisu turned down a seeded spot in the tournament. He might not stay the people's champion if he were to keep on dodging tourneys. I mean, perhaps Band Boy Bisu is an exception but I don't think that'll be too big of an issue. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:23 classicyellow83 wrote: even shuttle makes 20-30k USD a month shuttle's motivation is his fans? I don't know. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:23 classicyellow83 wrote: even shuttle makes 20-30k USD a month Yeah that's crazy, in one month he just make more than the whole prize pool of this starleague. I just hope they continue to participate for the fans, I hope they don't get greedy or else BW could end for good, and also it could eventually hurt their viewership (pretty disappointed by bisu tbh). | ||
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Wrath
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:23 Ciryandor wrote: He got more money for the appearance fee in the Legends match? What. legends match is only one day not 2 months, he doesn't even need to take time off from streaming to practice either. | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6585 Posts
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:25 Wrath wrote: Is Bisu streaming the tournament? Yes. hes on skype with Flash. they are commentating together | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:25 Wrath wrote: Is Bisu streaming the tournament? Yeah he's watching right now. LOL | ||
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GTR
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:27 classicyellow83 wrote: Yes. hes on skype with Flash. they are commentating together you didn't answer me, is the giga legends match on afreeca or OGN? | ||
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Highways
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
he had better maths this time! | ||
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Ciryandor
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On July 19 2016 20:27 GTR wrote: https://twitter.com/GTR1H/status/755363407348371456 Bisu vs Flash, on NEO CHAIN REACTION REMATCH | ||
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On July 19 2016 20:30 Ciryandor wrote: Bisu vs Flash, on NEO CHAIN REACTION REMATCH NEO CHAIN RERACTION never fix your spelling mistake OGN. | ||
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classicyellow83
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On July 19 2016 20:27 BLinD-RawR wrote: you didn't answer me, is the giga legends match on afreeca or OGN? Sorry! It's on Afreeca | ||
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On July 19 2016 20:31 BLinD-RawR wrote: NEO CHAIN RERACTION never fix your spelling mistake OGN. OGN never change. RERACTION - NO BREAKS ALL GAME | ||
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On July 19 2016 20:37 BLinD-RawR wrote: saw it too :D | ||
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atrox_
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On July 19 2016 20:36 Raskit wrote: Total noob question but what's with the obs only sometimes allying? I'm guessing they show the ally screen to show player colours as well? to be fair I've always wondered this. Is it to do with colour? | ||
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On July 19 2016 20:39 atrox_ wrote: to be fair I've always wondered this. Is it to do with colour? yes, if you turn on faction colors allies will be yellow and enemies red, if the obs has neither player allied they will both red. If the obs doesn't ally a player the colors are probably distinct enough. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 20:39 atrox_ wrote: to be fair I've always wondered this. Is it to do with colour? Sometimes it's for colours, but I think it's just for the targetting right now (yellow circles + cursor vs red circles + cursor) | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On July 19 2016 20:53 HaFnium wrote: lol the commentators thinking best > hero.... yes i dont get it,i can understand from tastosis but from the koreans ? Oo | ||
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On July 19 2016 13:27 Probemicro wrote: free larva mind hero failhoon plz | ||
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Ciryandor
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On July 19 2016 20:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: yes i dont get it,i can understand from tastosis but from the koreans ? Oo The Koreans thought that herO lost all of his army. Also Twitch update: 10k viewers! AND TOP STREAM OF THE DAY | ||
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On July 19 2016 20:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: yes i dont get it,i can understand from tastosis but from the koreans ? Oo I think the 2 korean commentators favoured for hero and 1 for best.... | ||
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letian
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TheNewEra
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On July 19 2016 20:58 letian wrote: Ok, when is day3? Tomorrow? Tastosis said tomorrow... tomorrow is GSL. Day 3 is Sunday | ||
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c3rberUs
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On July 19 2016 20:37 BLinD-RawR wrote: Ooooooooooh yeeeeaaaahhhhh Despite the shit map, I thought BeSt had a good chance in a pre-defiler timing. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 20:57 [17]Purple wrote: No Artosis in following weeks, I hope we go back to the good old Tasteless solo casts. Or maybe we can have Panda Bear Guy back, who did he co-cast that with? I play hockey with Jason Lee, should I ask him to cast bw again? haha | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 21:00 tanngard wrote: Why are they not in booths? Cant the players hear the commentators going crazy and infer from that? Like a darkt templar drop? I mean there has to the be a reason why encompassing booths have been in use since like forever..right? I was thinking the same too, it's strange. | ||
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GTR
51449 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:59 Essbee wrote: I play hockey with Jason Lee, should I ask him to cast bw again? haha wow jason lee is still around? tasteless would tell me stories about how he mentored him in the art of casting when he first arrived to korea (so basically tasteless was my jason lee  ) | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 21:00 GTR wrote: wow jason lee is still around? tasteless would tell me stories about how he mentored him in the art of casting when he first arrived to korea (so basically tasteless was my jason lee )Haha wow, yeah he's still around. He was a captain in our hockey league this season, he called his team the "Zerg". I wasn't surprised lol. Yeah I think it's Jason who brought Nick to Korea, he saw how good he was at casting and how in depth he knew the game. | ||
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classicyellow83
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On July 19 2016 21:00 tanngard wrote: Why are they not in booths? Cant the players hear the commentators going crazy and infer from that? Like a darkt templar drop? I mean there has to the be a reason why encompassing booths have been in use since like forever..right? Flash says you can;t hear anything. | ||
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Essbee
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good to know, but then, what's different from before (kespa era)? | ||
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classicyellow83
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GTR
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would rather see fs/cb clones like la mancha or ground zero rather than fs/cb. | ||
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tanngard
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Good to hear. Thank you. | ||
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classicyellow83
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[sc1f]eonzerg
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On July 19 2016 21:04 classicyellow83 wrote: Dang.. so many players want taebaeksanmaek out of the tournament. They should replace that map starting from round 8 so far the two games i saw i loved.but yeah maybe from a player perspective is not so cool | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Maybe that's what he wants us to think. ~mind games. Jason Lee, I learned so much BW stuff from him watching the GOM classic games. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 21:04 classicyellow83 wrote: Dang.. so many players want taebaeksanmaek out of the tournament. They should replace that map starting from round 8 What's so wrong about the map? I mean, yeah it's not a traditional layout but I feel that's what is cool about it for the spectators. New builds and different games are always good for keeping it fresh. | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On July 19 2016 21:05 GTR wrote: i heartily disagree. if anything they should remove fs and cb because i'm so fucking sick and tired of watching games on them. would rather see fs/cb clones like la mancha or ground zero rather than fs/cb. no... they should remove heavily unbalanced map. | ||
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GTR
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there's no reason to put stock into practice games that are played online by the way. let the non-zergs whine all they want but so far i've enjoyed the games on taebaek so far. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 19 2016 21:07 classicyellow83 wrote: no... they should remove heavily unbalanced map. But then what's the point of having maps in the first place? They could just use FS non-stop and be done it with it in that case. | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On July 19 2016 20:55 Ciryandor wrote: The Koreans thought that herO lost all of his army. Also Twitch update: 10k viewers! AND TOP STREAM OF THE DAY Wait I missed it, do you mean GSL was the most viewed channel at one point? Awesome if so, no matter the time of day. On July 19 2016 20:57 [17]Purple wrote: No Artosis in following weeks, I hope we go back to the good old Tasteless solo casts. Or maybe we can have Panda Bear Guy back, who did he co-cast that with? Tasteless solo casts are honestly so good in both BW and SC2 I really hope no one chooses to replace Artosis. >_< | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 21:07 GTR wrote: and you're basing that off two televised games, one of which is a tvt? But he did say it was based on what the players are actually saying on their stream | ||
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classicyellow83
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On July 19 2016 21:07 GTR wrote: and you're basing that off two televised games, one of which is a tvt? there's no reason to put stock into practice games that are played online by the way. no. im basing it off of what the players are saying and watching them play on them on afreeca. No terran and no protoss won a single game on that map vs zerg. | ||
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On July 19 2016 21:08 Hall0wed wrote: Wait I missed it, do you mean GSL was the most viewed channel at one point? Awesome if so, no matter the time of day. Tasteless solo casts are honestly so good in both BW and SC2 I really hope no one chooses to replace Artosis. >_< I hope they would stop making so many references to sc2 because they are so good and I want to listen to them, but after talking to them, I understand why they do it. | ||
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classicyellow83
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On July 19 2016 21:10 GTR wrote: let them whine all they want then. until the season concludes i see no valid reason as to replace the map unless there are game breaking bugs that make the map unplayable ala demon's forest. ok | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On July 19 2016 21:10 Essbee wrote: I hope they would stop making so many references to sc2 because they are so good and I want to listen to them, but after talking to them, I understand why they do it. I would assume you could expect a lot less SC2 references in the RO8 and definitely RO4. But yeah as you said, there is a very good reason why Tastosis brings up SC2 so much, BW would not have this many viewers on Twitch in 2016 without all these SC2 viewers/players. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 21:21 Hall0wed wrote: I would assume you could expect a lot less SC2 references in the RO8 and definitely RO4. But yeah as you said, there is a very good reason why Tastosis brings up SC2 so much, BW would not have this many viewers on Twitch in 2016 without all these SC2 viewers/players. Yep exactly, and they did told me that mostly all of them are sc2 fans with no bw experiences, so yeah, obviously, that's why they do this. | ||
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c3rberUs
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On July 19 2016 21:26 Essbee wrote: Yep exactly, and they did told me that mostly all of them are sc2 fans with no bw experiences, so yeah, obviously, that's why they do this. I think the silent majority like it this way. It eases them into things and that makes for a better viewing experience. | ||
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On July 19 2016 21:30 c3rberUs wrote: I think the silent majority like it this way. It eases them into things and that makes for a better viewing experience. If it retains the viewership they could talk about World of Tanks for all I care. I'm just glad the numbers are so high for them. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 21:30 c3rberUs wrote: I think the silent majority like it this way. It eases them into things and that makes for a better viewing experience. Yep, the "noobs" with us really enjoyed it. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 19 2016 21:32 BisuDagger wrote: If it retains the viewership they could talk about World of Tanks for all I care. I'm just glad the numbers are so high for them. I'm just so glad we get to see Tastosis cast bw again, it's great. | ||
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Hall0wed
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On July 19 2016 21:32 BisuDagger wrote: If it retains the viewership they could talk about World of Tanks for all I care. I'm just glad the numbers are so high for them. Oh god picturing them comparing BW to WoT leaves a huge smile on my face. Hearing something like that would really be something else. | ||
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On July 19 2016 21:32 BisuDagger wrote: If it retains the viewership they could talk about World of Tanks for all I care. I'm just glad the numbers are so high for them. I was expecting there to be a pretty noticeable drop in viewers without Flash, but it looked like it held up well. | ||
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On July 19 2016 23:12 RKC wrote: GTR: Please cast with Tasteless next week! Is GTR in korea? That would be awesome. | ||
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On July 19 2016 21:04 classicyellow83 wrote: Dang.. so many players want taebaeksanmaek out of the tournament. They should replace that map starting from round 8 Maybe it is indeed imbalanced but I have a feeling a lot of players would complain about any new non-standard map. Dealing with unfamiliar maps and adapting strategies to them is like a core skill aspect that completely disappeared during the last few years. | ||
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amazingxkcd
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taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance | ||
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classicyellow83
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On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote: overwatch has potential ot be a solid map. taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance They are gonna patch overwatch. Apparently mineral mining at 1oclock and 5oclock have huge problem. Poor Sea.... | ||
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Shinokuki
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On July 19 2016 21:10 GTR wrote: let them whine all they want then. until the season concludes i see no valid reason as to replace the map unless there are game breaking bugs that make the map unplayable ala demon's forest. there seems to be a lot. Like protoss can manner pylon terrans on overwatch map and like EIGHT SCVS will go around and mine. lol | ||
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Also some of the players told the mapmaker before hand that there was a mineral mining problem with overwatch. The mapmaker ignored this issue. | ||
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He put 24 scvs on both of them... results afters 2 min.. 11olock mined 1966 more minerals SOURCE | ||
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On July 20 2016 00:06 classicyellow83 wrote: They are gonna patch overwatch. Apparently mineral mining at 1oclock and 5oclock have huge problem. Poor Sea.... game breaking if true really fucking game breaking | ||
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On July 20 2016 01:28 amazingxkcd wrote: game breaking if true really fucking game breaking Really fucked up thing is some of the players told the mapmaker beforehand of this issue. | ||
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bisudagger showed up late 😂👌 | ||
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Peeano
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Still huge. (Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.) | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On July 20 2016 01:53 Peeano wrote: Ummm. 1966 - 1792 = 174 minerals difference in 2 minutes advantage for 5. Still huge. (Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.) if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much | ||
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classicyellow83
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On July 20 2016 01:53 amazingxkcd wrote: if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much Yeah I think it's mainly terran problem | ||
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On July 20 2016 01:53 amazingxkcd wrote: if gas mining is the same, then the mineral differences didnt change zero vs flash much (Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.) On July 20 2016 01:47 amazingxkcd wrote: xkcd + bisudagger VODS: http://afreeca.tv/36846806/v/39042 bisudagger showed up late 😂👌 I got your back, I posted and linked VODs like 2 minutes after stream ended | ||
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On July 20 2016 01:46 classicyellow83 wrote: Really fucked up thing is some of the players told the mapmaker beforehand of this issue. There is thread talking about every bug and a better version of this map | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On July 20 2016 01:56 Peeano wrote: (Zergs hardly ever saturate their mineral line that high, so I don't think it played a big role in Flash vs Zero.) I got your back, I posted and linked VODs like 2 minutes after stream ended thanks! now we gotta pull the viewers away from the gsl stream :D | ||
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Best 0-1 I was looking forward to seeing God smash Best into pieces. How ironic it will be if Best cannot even make it through the group stage. | ||
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VGhost
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On July 19 2016 23:40 amazingxkcd wrote: taebaek mountains needs to die in the fiery infernos of hell. there's no hope saving that cesspool of imbalance Fix the bugs, but I'm in favor of having non-standard maps in the pool, especially for 1v1 tournaments where there aren't that many games. Force creative play as well as standard. | ||
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On July 20 2016 00:49 classicyellow83 wrote: Someone on YGOSU compared mineral mining between 11oclock and 5oclock. He put 24 scvs on both of them... results afters 2 min.. 11olock mined 1966 more minerals SOURCE I think its actually saying it mined 1966 minerals, 174 more than 5oclock which mined 1792. Still a big deal, but 2k minerals in 2 minutes would be ridiculous. | ||
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Cryoc
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Even forge expand gets punished with a regular tech build by Zerg. Fast lurkers can deny mining a long time even with pretty fast robo and P cannot even trade efficiently on that tiny cliff. And even if P gets a hold of his natural, there is like no way to ever secure additional bases before Zerg has the entire map as they are so far away. At least we will probably get some unorthodox builds, that can work once. Well either that or consecutive proxy gates. | ||
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On July 20 2016 01:57 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: There is thread talking about every bug and a better version of this map Some pros including zero have played on the fixed foreign version of the map and like it. | ||
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They need to BAN this map forever ASAP. Arent there some serious complaints from the players already? It is so obvious that the map is pure crap, didnt commentators mention something about it? I cannot believe such atrocities can be allowed to happen in events on that level. | ||
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mierin
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So I started my SC journey here on TL watching BW in arguably its prime (late 2000s, JD, Flash, Effort, Stork, Bisu etc being awesome). Pretty much every game was a white-knuckle, "holy shit I'm drooling but can't help myself because this is so suspenseful" kind of situation. I'm so motherfuckin' glad BW is being cast again, especially by Tastosis. I'm a Zerg fanboy through and through, but even the Flash vs. Zero game the other day was incredibly entertaining. I don't really care so much about the forced mechanics (12 unit control groups, having to make every worker mine, etc), but just the back and forth nature of this game is amazing. This is what esports is really about for me. I've watched HotS, Overwatch, LoL, and several others but none come even close to the amazingness that is BW. This is so freaking fantastic. I'm just drunk on ecstasy watching these VODs. TY Mr. Chae, Afreeca, Tastosis, etc. | ||
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i wish, but i flew back to australia saturday afternoon. i'm betting that it will be rapid casting with tasteeless since he knows quite a bit about the brood war era from talking with him. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On July 20 2016 07:34 GTR wrote: i wish, but i flew back to australia saturday afternoon. i'm betting that it will be rapid casting with tasteeless since he knows quite a bit about the brood war era from talking with him. Will you return to South Korea? I've been so happy for you out there! | ||
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Tastosis really want me to come back and help them out with the BW casting over in Korea, once the time comes. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On July 20 2016 07:52 GTR wrote: If BW continues to be successful and has good viewership then the plan is to return sometime after the New Year, pending job availability. Tastosis really want me to come back and help them out with the BW casting over in Korea, once the time comes. That'd be so cool. That has to be one of your dreams come true. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands4990 Posts
That created a significant lead that gave BeSt a good chance to win. However he failed to do so. His main fail, (other than micro fails which I'm not looking to discuss here), was that he suffered severe economical damage from lurkers on his natural high ground. What BeSt did: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5xeLod8.jpg) What he should have done: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zi0wMqG.png) (The far left cannon isn't a necessity. The other 3 are.) | ||
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On July 20 2016 08:57 RoomOfMush wrote: Where exactly can I find VODs of Bisudagger and XKCD casting? The only VODs I find are of tastosis. Would like to watch the matches from with different narrative. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=53#1042 | ||
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RoomOfMush
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On July 20 2016 08:59 Peeano wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/402419-small-vod-thread-20?page=53#1042 Thanks very much. Its always nice to have different points of view. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 20 2016 07:02 mierin wrote: Okay, just have to rant here for a moment. So I started my SC journey here on TL watching BW in arguably its prime (late 2000s, JD, Flash, Effort, Stork, Bisu etc being awesome). Pretty much every game was a white-knuckle, "holy shit I'm drooling but can't help myself because this is so suspenseful" kind of situation. I'm so motherfuckin' glad BW is being cast again, especially by Tastosis. I'm a Zerg fanboy through and through, but even the Flash vs. Zero game the other day was incredibly entertaining. I don't really care so much about the forced mechanics (12 unit control groups, having to make every worker mine, etc), but just the back and forth nature of this game is amazing. This is what esports is really about for me. I've watched HotS, Overwatch, LoL, and several others but none come even close to the amazingness that is BW. This is so freaking fantastic. I'm just drunk on ecstasy watching these VODs. TY Mr. Chae, Afreeca, Tastosis, etc. Was that really a rant? You seem happy more than anything Btw, you are 100% right, BW is the only esport I have been able to consistently watch/play for years. Quake (and a bit of cs1.6) came close but BW is just something else. BW will always be back and forth in nature because of the pathfinding and the limited unit selection that creates skirmishes all around the map rather than one big fight, and it's just SO fuckin great. | ||
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Essbee
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On July 20 2016 10:55 RoomOfMush wrote: I dont think its necessarily the pathfinding and unit selection limitation. The units are simply well designed and work for many small skirmishes. Its all the unit interactions as a whole as well as the macro mechanics which allow for the constant back and forth. You are right, it is more than this but it is part of it. And yep, the unit design is incredible, that's why we have those small skirmishes, it's kind of hard to explain but anyone who knows bw know what we are talking about. And we can add the defender's advantage to all of this. | ||
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RKC
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On July 20 2016 08:08 BisuDagger wrote: That'd be so cool. That has to be one of your dreams come true. GTR: Wait, you're not coming back anytime soon? That means you won't be casting SC2 as well? That's such a pity, I really enjoyed your cast - very informative and insightful. And loving your voice too! BD: Time for you to move to Korea and cast too! So stoked for you guys | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On July 20 2016 13:24 RKC wrote: GTR: Wait, you're not coming back anytime soon? That means you won't be casting SC2 as well? That's such a pity, I really enjoyed your cast - very informative and insightful. And loving your voice too! BD: Time for you to move to Korea and cast too! So stoked for you guys we would have to get paid really well to be quitting our current careers. and job security too | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
On July 20 2016 14:00 amazingxkcd wrote: we would have to get paid really well to be quitting our current careers. and job security too When you're hungry, passion will keep you alive! Sure, I understand you guys casting part-time with little or no remuneration, so it's really a labour of love. The rest of us are truly indebted to you guys! Keep it up! | ||
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classicyellow83
United States2393 Posts
On July 20 2016 19:47 aka_star wrote: I'm so happy to see a BW tournament come back and revive the scene Me too!! | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On July 20 2016 16:13 RKC wrote: When you're hungry, passion will keep you alive! Sure, I understand you guys casting part-time with little or no remuneration, so it's really a labour of love. The rest of us are truly indebted to you guys! Keep it up! thanks! we do it for the love of the game. no other game out there can come close 🙏 | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On July 20 2016 19:47 aka_star wrote: I'm so happy to see a BW tournament come back and revive the scene What is dead may never die. BW was never away, just a bit further away from spotlight (; | ||
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On July 20 2016 10:00 c3rberUs wrote: Taebaek Mts is a really strange map. I don't like the bad things about it (and how they affect P) but the layout makes for exciting games... well, being a PvZ grave deluxe, i think the map is a bad choice for ASL. It doesn't make sense with respect to the number of qualified Protoss players, overall quality of protoss players and the result of VNSL to pick a map, that is THAT bad for PvZ. | ||
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