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January 22 2016 04:27 GMT
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 04:33 GMT
#2
Two terran powerhouses versus relatively weaker protoss. I expect two T advancing.

Btw prech, does Sa-il reveal the maps only during the broadcast? Afreeca pages take some time to load for me...
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 10:22 GMT
#3
Seems Noble replaced Lazy
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 10:24 GMT
#4
Can anyone with the powers add the stream?

Last takes the game.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5031 Posts
January 22 2016 10:24 GMT
#5
Offense gg by Last :D
FBH #1!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
January 22 2016 10:24 GMT
#6
lol last replied gg to 41tv.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 10:28 GMT
#7
Go Noble beat this terran scum
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
January 22 2016 10:38 GMT
#8
On January 22 2016 13:33 c3rberUs wrote:
Two terran powerhouses versus relatively weaker protoss. I expect two T advancing.

Btw prech, does Sa-il reveal the maps only during the broadcast? Afreeca pages take some time to load for me...


sky is anything but weak
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 10:41 GMT
#9
What are the results so far?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
January 22 2016 10:44 GMT
#10
On January 22 2016 19:41 feckless wrote:
What are the results so far?


Last 2-0 Noble
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 10:44 GMT
#11
2-0 Last -> Winners' Match
0-2 Noble -> Losers' Match

BR, that's why I said relatively weaker. I haven't seen results from Sky yet.
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 10:51 GMT
#12
Sky putting the hurt on Mong.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 10:57:37
January 22 2016 10:56 GMT
#13
Liking Sky's play here.
Not bad so far. Very good, even.
Mong ggs.

edit: Thanks for the results.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
January 22 2016 10:59 GMT
#14
yay blue storm
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 11:04:05
January 22 2016 10:59 GMT
#15
How did it end? I went out for a bit.

Sky dayum!

Oh this gas steal.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 11:09 GMT
#16
Sky loses entertainingly at least.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 11:11:28
January 22 2016 11:11 GMT
#17
On January 22 2016 19:59 c3rberUs wrote:
How did it end? I went out for a bit.

Sky dayum!

Oh this gas steal.

Sky had too much of an advantage over Mong. Laying down massive numbers of gateways. So he basically just brute-forced his way in to the third from the high-ground area with zealots, goons, and arbiters. I don't even think he needed the stasis, but better cautious than not.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 11:14 GMT
#18
On January 22 2016 20:11 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 19:59 c3rberUs wrote:
How did it end? I went out for a bit.

Sky dayum!

Oh this gas steal.

Sky had too much of an advantage over Mong. Laying down massive numbers of gateways. So he basically just brute-forced his way in to the third from the high-ground area with zealots, goons, and arbiters. I don't even think he needed the stasis, but better cautious than not.

Ah I see. Yeah, he had quite the advantage.

I keep missing the endings. This one too.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 11:17:01
January 22 2016 11:16 GMT
#19
Sky has fallen.

Mong takes the series.

Two good TvTers in the winners' match.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 11:17 GMT
#20
GG.

Sky you still have the next round.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 11:22 GMT
#21
Last defends his base against marines with SCVs. Boss.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 11:24 GMT
#22
First wraith headed towards a 3-fac'ing Last.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 11:26 GMT
#23
Last blocks vultures in his base by laying down a barracks.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 11:39:55
January 22 2016 11:35 GMT
#24
Mong played that really well. Last with some fancy maneuvers, but not enough. Kinda late laying down the factories and trying to play catch-up.

Last ggs.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 11:51:38
January 22 2016 11:49 GMT
#25
So apparently caster's internet connection conked out midgame (Sky vs. Noble).
It came back briefly.
But now I can't get the stream to load.

edit: It appears we are back in action. Sky vs. Noble once again.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 12:06:30
January 22 2016 12:01 GMT
#26
I haven't watched much BW in the post-KeSPA era, is the standard DT build in PvP not DT expo anymore?

Edit: Also I feel like Orange is trying to sneak way too many DTs, he needs to have like 2 or 3 on the map to run in when green moves out

Editedit: Yeah, the end of this game is what I remember happening when you try to 1base templar tech against a reaver player; the reaver player sits in his base until he has a reaver or two and some obs, then he moves out and reaver is superior to templar tech in open field battles at that moment.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 12:10 GMT
#27
On January 22 2016 21:01 Elyvilon wrote:
I haven't watched much BW in the post-KeSPA era, is the standard DT build in PvP not DT expo anymore?

Edit: Also I feel like Orange is trying to sneak way too many DTs, he needs to have like 2 or 3 on the map to run in when green moves out

Editedit: Yeah, the end of this game is what I remember happening when you try to 1base templar tech against a reaver player; the reaver player sits in his base until he has a reaver or two and some obs, then he moves out and reaver is superior to templar tech in open field battles at that moment.

They both were playing off one base.
Sky went DTs first and earlier, and managed to grab a lot of probes before Noble's observer was out. Instead of expanding then, Sky went for a robotics facility. Noble tried to attack and was rebuffed. Sky's reavers sealed the game in his favor.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 22 2016 12:13 GMT
#28
On January 22 2016 21:10 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 21:01 Elyvilon wrote:
I haven't watched much BW in the post-KeSPA era, is the standard DT build in PvP not DT expo anymore?

Edit: Also I feel like Orange is trying to sneak way too many DTs, he needs to have like 2 or 3 on the map to run in when green moves out

Editedit: Yeah, the end of this game is what I remember happening when you try to 1base templar tech against a reaver player; the reaver player sits in his base until he has a reaver or two and some obs, then he moves out and reaver is superior to templar tech in open field battles at that moment.

They both were playing off one base.
Sky went DTs first and earlier, and managed to grab a lot of probes before Noble's observer was out. Instead of expanding then, Sky went for a robotics facility. Noble tried to attack and was rebuffed. Sky's reavers sealed the game in his favor.

Yeah, what I was trying to say is that I remember the standard PvP DT build as DT expo; the DTs are supposed to buy you time for the expansion to come online and put you in a good position if you can hold off the timing. Noble's gameplan was much more aggressive.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 12:18:43
January 22 2016 12:14 GMT
#29
It appears the stream is down again.

On January 22 2016 21:13 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 21:10 feckless wrote:
On January 22 2016 21:01 Elyvilon wrote:
I haven't watched much BW in the post-KeSPA era, is the standard DT build in PvP not DT expo anymore?

Edit: Also I feel like Orange is trying to sneak way too many DTs, he needs to have like 2 or 3 on the map to run in when green moves out

Editedit: Yeah, the end of this game is what I remember happening when you try to 1base templar tech against a reaver player; the reaver player sits in his base until he has a reaver or two and some obs, then he moves out and reaver is superior to templar tech in open field battles at that moment.

They both were playing off one base.
Sky went DTs first and earlier, and managed to grab a lot of probes before Noble's observer was out. Instead of expanding then, Sky went for a robotics facility. Noble tried to attack and was rebuffed. Sky's reavers sealed the game in his favor.

Yeah, what I was trying to say is that I remember the standard PvP DT build as DT expo; the DTs are supposed to buy you time for the expansion to come online and put you in a good position if you can hold off the timing. Noble's gameplan was much more aggressive.

It still is the standard. I don't see many games where a player transitions to robo after going early DTs. Like you said, Noble was a bit more aggressive. Also notice that Sky did try to make a nexus (after the robo, knowing DTs were probably incoming) at his natural, but he spotted the DT drop and then the opposing army coming, so he canceled.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 12:19:04
January 22 2016 12:14 GMT
#30
So my stream went down, who won that game?

E:
On January 22 2016 21:14 feckless wrote:
It appears the stream is down again.


It's back, just in time to see the in between games stuff.

Edit2: Oh they're still on Circuit Breaker, I guess the game as a whole went down or it hadn't started yet or something?
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 12:21:48
January 22 2016 12:21 GMT
#31
Four gates from Sky. Awesome.

I should have mentioned that Sky's play probably isn't very "standard".

On January 22 2016 21:14 Elyvilon wrote:
Edit2: Oh they're still on Circuit Breaker, I guess the game as a whole went down or it hadn't started yet or something?

The stream went down midgame. So I guess they restarted.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 12:23:58
January 22 2016 12:23 GMT
#32
Last defends! He wins!

Sky, no! He loses!

So much internal conflict right now.

edit: Oh, I forgot this was a BO3. I guess the inner turmoil can wait.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9508 Posts
January 22 2016 12:23 GMT
#33
Lol Sky raged quit after his attack failed
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 22 2016 12:25 GMT
#34
On January 22 2016 21:23 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Lol Sky raged quit after his attack failed

I mean, 1 base P vs 2 base T, I don't know if that's a ragequit, exactly.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 12:25 GMT
#35
Sky is going for proxies. More shenanigans.
Last senses this. But he doesn't scout far enough.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
January 22 2016 12:27 GMT
#36
On January 22 2016 21:23 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Lol Sky raged quit after his attack failed

LOL

DT expand is still the standard variation
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HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
January 22 2016 12:27 GMT
#37
Imagine an all Terran Ro8
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 22 2016 12:28 GMT
#38
This build by Sky is...

Well, it's a build.

On January 22 2016 21:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 21:23 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Lol Sky raged quit after his attack failed

LOL

DT expand is still the standard variation

Cool, thanks.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-22 12:29:02
January 22 2016 12:28 GMT
#39
LOL Sky, what the hell is this?!

Manner pylons, shield battery, in-base gateway, forge.

GG.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 22 2016 12:29 GMT
#40
I guess Sky didn't feel like playing PvT, wtf was this
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9508 Posts
January 22 2016 12:29 GMT
#41
On January 22 2016 21:25 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 21:23 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Lol Sky raged quit after his attack failed

I mean, 1 base P vs 2 base T, I don't know if that's a ragequit, exactly.

Sky had 2 bases as well. It was basically a standard opening for both until he decided to suicide his units.
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feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
January 22 2016 12:35 GMT
#42
He seemed pissed. So he just decided fuck it. Maybe rage-quitting the first game wasn't enough. It's like the second game was just one long extended rage-quiit.

Oh well, at least Last moves up.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 22 2016 12:36 GMT
#43
On January 22 2016 21:29 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 21:25 Elyvilon wrote:
On January 22 2016 21:23 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Lol Sky raged quit after his attack failed

I mean, 1 base P vs 2 base T, I don't know if that's a ragequit, exactly.

Sky had 2 bases as well. It was basically a standard opening for both until he decided to suicide his units.

Oh oops, I wasn't paying close attention after I saw a rax CC(because earlygame) and I came back to see Sky's units dying and figured he must have tried to go allin to punish Rax CC.
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