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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
October 13 2015 10:19 GMT
#1
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 10:29 GMT
#2
hero has not been online on Fish nor streaming for almost a week...Rush (with his tons of TvZ practice with EffOrt) could easily upset hero if hes became rusty

EffOrt should narrowly win over Last
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
October 13 2015 11:03 GMT
#3
If anyone finds any restream, please post here!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
October 13 2015 11:07 GMT
#4
http://star.longzhu.com/sk2
restream
repomaniak
Profile Joined January 2009
Poland324 Posts
October 13 2015 11:21 GMT
#5
http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrtc
restream
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
October 13 2015 11:28 GMT
#6
On October 13 2015 20:21 repomaniak wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrtc
restream

Awesome, thanks!

Attached it to the calendar event.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
October 13 2015 11:35 GMT
#7
Last really needs to do something about those damn queens.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
October 13 2015 11:47 GMT
#8
Pretty intense first game, both players slugging it out.
EffOrt finally takes it.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 11:47 GMT
#9
sick TvZ, and its only set1
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
October 13 2015 12:02 GMT
#10
what is hapeeeennnninggggg
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
October 13 2015 12:03 GMT
#11
Holy shit.
Last goes for the offensive bunker.
EffOrt counters.
Basetrade?
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
October 13 2015 12:03 GMT
#12
EffOrt is kinda fucked though, 3 drones mining
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
October 13 2015 12:03 GMT
#13
this game lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
October 13 2015 12:04 GMT
#14
Last concedes.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
October 13 2015 12:04 GMT
#15
ha, never mind
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
October 13 2015 12:20 GMT
#16
Last is playing this set really well.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
October 13 2015 12:30 GMT
#17
On October 13 2015 21:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Last is playing this set really well.

Two of my current favorites playing a great series.
Going into the tiebreaker, the final game.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
October 13 2015 12:42 GMT
#18
Current situation looks bleak for Last.
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 12:44:45
October 13 2015 12:44 GMT
#19
Those mutalisks are feasting on a completely naked mineral line.

Current situation of the stream looks bleak for me.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
October 13 2015 12:54 GMT
#20
Awesome series.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 12:58:02
October 13 2015 12:54 GMT
#21
Final set a little anti-climactic.
Would have liked to see both players move up.
But EffOrt edged by with a solid final game.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 12:55 GMT
#22
phew great EffOrt

Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 13:07 GMT
#23
hero is here
also starting his Longzhu stream today
hero
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 13:19 GMT
#24
rush who broke hero 12 win zvt streak in the earlier stage, did it again and take the lead 1-0
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
October 13 2015 13:36 GMT
#25
rush is playing so good this series.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 13:55:33
October 13 2015 13:54 GMT
#26
Electric circuit is such a fun map to see TvZ on.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
October 13 2015 14:01 GMT
#27
I hope hero isn't pulling a jaedong and clogging his army, ok he moved them.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
October 13 2015 14:04 GMT
#28
wow hero making a comeback in the series 2-2
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 14:12 GMT
#29
nah no comeback

On October 13 2015 19:29 Probemicro wrote:
hero has not been online on Fish nor streaming for almost a week...Rush (with his tons of TvZ practice with EffOrt) could easily upset hero if hes became rusty

EffOrt should narrowly win over Last


yay
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 14:47 GMT
#30
what is a dark archon?

still the protoss hope remains...piano rages in the darkness over what might have been
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
October 13 2015 14:51 GMT
#31
What happened to Hero?

PianO finally back to being a 'tomak'?
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-13 15:12:11
October 13 2015 15:10 GMT
#32
uh no, just saying that piano would rather meet larva than guemchi in the bo3. (and ideally larva should have won on la mancha)

but now piano is 1-0 up over g chizzle
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 15:16 GMT
#33
aiur makes the last stand 1-1
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 13 2015 15:26 GMT
#34
RIP OMEKIM
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10334 Posts
October 13 2015 15:30 GMT
#35
wtf. :c hero what is going on.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 13 2015 16:07 GMT
#36
The thread title was a major spoiler. Please leave players out in the future. <3 Prech
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
October 13 2015 19:37 GMT
#37
Thanks for all the updates, insane couple of sets with EffOrt and Last. See it frequently during sponsored matches, nice to see it in league action!

Terran-galore, just like SSL10. Looks like EffOrt is the only hope left

On October 14 2015 01:07 BisuDagger wrote:
The thread title was a major spoiler. Please leave players out in the future. <3 Prech
Oopsies! I've been adding the player names to make it easier to identify the thread and to spotlight the players involved. They're already in the calendar, but that disappears after the event. I'll be careful next time
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 13 2015 19:53 GMT
#38
On October 14 2015 04:37 prech wrote:
Thanks for all the updates, insane couple of sets with EffOrt and Last. See it frequently during sponsored matches, nice to see it in league action!

Terran-galore, just like SSL10. Looks like EffOrt is the only hope left

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On October 14 2015 01:07 BisuDagger wrote:
The thread title was a major spoiler. Please leave players out in the future. <3 Prech
Oopsies! I've been adding the player names to make it easier to identify the thread and to spotlight the players involved. They're already in the calendar, but that disappears after the event. I'll be careful next time

Wasn't a problem until I was saving the Ro16 group D for later xD
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 14 2015 06:44 GMT
#39
EffOrt had me worried for a while there. Last brought some good stuff to the table, but overall EffOrt felt a little sloppier than I'm used to seeing.

Still, he made it through and has some time to get it cleaned up before his next foe. Hoping he can make it two in a row.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-14 12:11:26
October 14 2015 12:09 GMT
#40
On October 14 2015 15:44 L_Master wrote:
EffOrt had me worried for a while there. Last brought some good stuff to the table, but overall EffOrt felt a little sloppier than I'm used to seeing.

Still, he made it through and has some time to get it cleaned up before his next foe. Hoping he can make it two in a row.

I think Last is a far better player than many give him credit. He played EffOrt to a pretty even (and quite intense) first match on Circuit Breaker, and then took the second game rather easily. The third game was simple craziness for both sides.
Last's gameplan for the fourth set was especially significant, in my opinion.
Teching straight to starport and gaining air control momentarily, Last grabs two overlords and obliges the rest to cower in the base, while EffOrt is pressured to get a few hydras. Last goes out for a seeming rush attack, forcing sunkens at both the natural and mineral-only. But he evades both fronts and simply elevators his army into the zerg main, taking it out with ease.
I do think that both of them showed sloppy play at times. For instance, in the fourth game, Last lost his entire bio force, plus a tank and a vessel to a bunch of lurkers and scourge. Although I think that might have been a decent tradeoff, annihilating pretty much EffOrt's entire army in the process. EffOrt did play rather clumsily near the end of the game when his army got turned to mincemeat outside Last's base.
Anyway, I surmise that my expectation for a more intense tiebreaker (and game-winner) was the reason for my disappointment for what (I felt) was a rather anti-climactic final game, at least from the point-of-view from Last. From the opposite perspective, EffOrt demonstrated a more solid performance in that final set.
In either case, I didn't think that these two would have given us a lackluster series.
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
October 14 2015 22:20 GMT
#41
^^Good analysis.

Just re-watched Effort/Last game 4 and Last's early wraiths effectively forced the Zerg to go hydra instead of muta. This forced Effort to cede map control and worker harassment, preventing him from stalling for tech and macro.

sSak and Rush both also often use such early wraith or vulture strategies to force the same, with varying results, but it's nice to see Terran players disrupting traditional ZvT play.

Very much agree that Last has ascended to the top or, at least, second tier, of TvZers, particularly on the traditional FS/CB maps. His seamless transition to mech play mid-game after bio pushes/drops very much reminds me of Mind and Sea
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 15 2015 06:01 GMT
#42
On October 14 2015 21:09 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2015 15:44 L_Master wrote:
EffOrt had me worried for a while there. Last brought some good stuff to the table, but overall EffOrt felt a little sloppier than I'm used to seeing.

Still, he made it through and has some time to get it cleaned up before his next foe. Hoping he can make it two in a row.

I think Last is a far better player than many give him credit. He played EffOrt to a pretty even (and quite intense) first match on Circuit Breaker, and then took the second game rather easily. The third game was simple craziness for both sides.
Last's gameplan for the fourth set was especially significant, in my opinion.
Teching straight to starport and gaining air control momentarily, Last grabs two overlords and obliges the rest to cower in the base, while EffOrt is pressured to get a few hydras. Last goes out for a seeming rush attack, forcing sunkens at both the natural and mineral-only. But he evades both fronts and simply elevators his army into the zerg main, taking it out with ease.
I do think that both of them showed sloppy play at times. For instance, in the fourth game, Last lost his entire bio force, plus a tank and a vessel to a bunch of lurkers and scourge. Although I think that might have been a decent tradeoff, annihilating pretty much EffOrt's entire army in the process. EffOrt did play rather clumsily near the end of the game when his army got turned to mincemeat outside Last's base.
Anyway, I surmise that my expectation for a more intense tiebreaker (and game-winner) was the reason for my disappointment for what (I felt) was a rather anti-climactic final game, at least from the point-of-view from Last. From the opposite perspective, EffOrt demonstrated a more solid performance in that final set.
In either case, I didn't think that these two would have given us a lackluster series.


Yea, the series overall was entertaining. From a pure entertainment standpoint, G1 and G4 were excellent, though G4 ended with a wimper.

I guess I don't have a feel for the vibe on how people view Last, but I think he is close to, if not in, the top echelon of terrans in SOSPA currently. Top 5, probably top 3.

I enjoyed the series quite a bit overall, you highlighted some of the key points, but in general watching these two awesome guys go at it there were so many moments where I was thinking "this guy is so fuckin clever, I LOVE this!".
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
October 15 2015 06:17 GMT
#43
Last was unfortunate to hit EffOrt in ro8, he could have gone on to the ro4 or even finals if he had only other terrans or a OSL-cursed hero to face. He showed good preparation and overall high level play but EffOrt is simply the best Zerg atm.
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