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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
July 31 2015 14:18 GMT
#41
Julia I hope you have to play scan on destination for tlc tomorrow
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 31 2015 14:22 GMT
#42
On July 31 2015 23:18 Assault_1 wrote:
Julia I hope you have to play scan on destination for tlc tomorrow

Well, Scan hasn't signed up yet so who knows if that'll be the case. Would make for an interesting matchup though!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
13Julia
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada231 Posts
July 31 2015 14:37 GMT
#43
Don't worry, he will be there on one account or the other.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-31 15:40:47
July 31 2015 15:23 GMT
#44
On July 31 2015 23:37 13Julia wrote:
Don't worry, he will be there on one account or the other.

I doubt it. Scan is quite the mannered player these days so he wouldn't pull off that stunt.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada761 Posts
July 31 2015 20:40 GMT
#45
julia you are the last person who should comment on bad etiquette
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
LV-Hellscream
Profile Joined November 2012
Great Britain154 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 08:18:39
August 01 2015 08:12 GMT
#46
tourney should be split in 2. amateurs and semipro.
otherwise is not fair to those who can't practice much.

to be a great starcrafter these days you have to have income for food and rent and divorce and forget about your children...

maps. i would agree with this dodger julia in something but i also don't see Jade. or Byzanthium. colosseum. heartbreak ridge or any new maps?

who ever shows the statiatic.. don't compare progamer statistic. of the map.
fs is not so balanced as you think..
same as destination.
Julia. why not island maps? would be fun some times.

Imho. maps should be changed every week. all of them
so we go through all past and present legendary maps.

To casting crew: i can cast too. let me know if i can join.


i think who ever wins this tourney like 2 times in row. should give half of prize money to 4th and 5th finalists. so his prize is not more than who ever finish 2nd..
because we all know scan is hard player. this way i could call firebathero and he would win 2000 pounds.
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria485 Posts
August 01 2015 10:09 GMT
#47
Julia I hope you have to play scan on destination for tlc tomorrow


I hope for that too
music is the best thing in the world
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 01 2015 10:13 GMT
#48
Don't even try to complain about maps because admins are listening neither mapmakers, fans nor players. They don't even want to test new foreign mapmaker's maps regardless the fact that listed maps made their way into iCCup map pack. They just showing stats of korean maps when they stated early that the tourney was organized to strengthen the activity and support of the foreign BW scene, not considering that KeSPA scene is gone and percentage of winrate on those maps can be applied accurately only for ex korean pros. In general they follow rules of KeSPA/SoSPA scene by adapting only korean approved maps and not helping foreign scene to make a step with his own unique maps.

If you try to make a poll you will get yourself shut down, because only admins can decide what to do, what to change, arrange not the crowd, not even sponsor. I think 3-4 admins are taking too much responsibility for themselves, too much actions by not accepting other people's thoughts and denying any further discussion by locking threads. In total, there will be OK tourneys, but no way foreign scene is gaining any benefit after these type of unavailing arrangement of events.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ggnore13
Profile Joined May 2015
54 Posts
August 01 2015 12:42 GMT
#49
Well you guys are starting to get out of line. As many of you were right to complain against admin's decision to let Scan play none of you have any right what-so-ever to push for any other changes. If the TL crew feels that certain maps are suited for this tournament or even if they are trying to promote some maps you dont like for that matter (as long as the maps are relatively balanced) you should shut up and play the bloody maps.
Its one thing to ask/listen the crowd for one semipro korean player's participating and another to start putting every map somebody makes/likes in the map poll. The statement that the foreign scene won't gain any benefit unless certain foreign maps are played made me laught. Seriously.. foreign scene have survived on korean maps so far and they are actually the most widely played maps.

And to actually get on topic: The map poll is not an issue at all. Its the player poll we have to work on and the history showed us it does not depend on the maps played since most ppl are usually practicing on the same maps (also I believe everyone remembers the Lost Temle's ages when this + the other few WCG maps were the only maps played and there was absolutely no problem with the player's poll). Now I'm not saying new maps are a bad thing. Its healthy and good for the comunity but its not so critical for this tournament. Hence whatever maps the admin's are choosing will not hurt the even in any way (unless ofc we're playing the same maps for the entire tournament which I doubt will be the case).
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 12:56:47
August 01 2015 12:54 GMT
#50
One map was already replaced based on community feedback (poll). Changing more than one from week to week is a bad idea, just tells the players they shouldn't even bother putting much thought into maps.
En Taro Violet
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
August 01 2015 13:33 GMT
#51
On August 01 2015 19:13 outscar wrote:
Don't even try to complain about maps because admins are listening neither mapmakers, fans nor players. They don't even want to test new foreign mapmaker's maps regardless the fact that listed maps made their way into iCCup map pack. They just showing stats of korean maps when they stated early that the tourney was organized to strengthen the activity and support of the foreign BW scene, not considering that KeSPA scene is gone and percentage of winrate on those maps can be applied accurately only for ex korean pros. In general they follow rules of KeSPA/SoSPA scene by adapting only korean approved maps and not helping foreign scene to make a step with his own unique maps.

If you try to make a poll you will get yourself shut down, because only admins can decide what to do, what to change, arrange not the crowd, not even sponsor. I think 3-4 admins are taking too much responsibility for themselves, too much actions by not accepting other people's thoughts and denying any further discussion by locking threads. In total, there will be OK tourneys, but no way foreign scene is gaining any benefit after these type of unavailing arrangement of events.

You... What..??
EleGant[AoV]
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 01 2015 14:34 GMT
#52
On August 01 2015 22:33 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 19:13 outscar wrote:
Don't even try to complain about maps because admins are listening neither mapmakers, fans nor players. They don't even want to test new foreign mapmaker's maps regardless the fact that listed maps made their way into iCCup map pack. They just showing stats of korean maps when they stated early that the tourney was organized to strengthen the activity and support of the foreign BW scene, not considering that KeSPA scene is gone and percentage of winrate on those maps can be applied accurately only for ex korean pros. In general they follow rules of KeSPA/SoSPA scene by adapting only korean approved maps and not helping foreign scene to make a step with his own unique maps.

If you try to make a poll you will get yourself shut down, because only admins can decide what to do, what to change, arrange not the crowd, not even sponsor. I think 3-4 admins are taking too much responsibility for themselves, too much actions by not accepting other people's thoughts and denying any further discussion by locking threads. In total, there will be OK tourneys, but no way foreign scene is gaining any benefit after these type of unavailing arrangement of events.

You... What..??

2pac closed a thread that he made regarding maps since it was a bit redundant (had another thread already open) and the OP wasn't the best organized so he's been mad since then despite my best to explain to him why it was closed.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1689 Posts
August 01 2015 15:37 GMT
#53
On August 01 2015 23:34 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 22:33 ImbaTosS wrote:
On August 01 2015 19:13 outscar wrote:
Don't even try to complain about maps because admins are listening neither mapmakers, fans nor players. They don't even want to test new foreign mapmaker's maps regardless the fact that listed maps made their way into iCCup map pack. They just showing stats of korean maps when they stated early that the tourney was organized to strengthen the activity and support of the foreign BW scene, not considering that KeSPA scene is gone and percentage of winrate on those maps can be applied accurately only for ex korean pros. In general they follow rules of KeSPA/SoSPA scene by adapting only korean approved maps and not helping foreign scene to make a step with his own unique maps.

If you try to make a poll you will get yourself shut down, because only admins can decide what to do, what to change, arrange not the crowd, not even sponsor. I think 3-4 admins are taking too much responsibility for themselves, too much actions by not accepting other people's thoughts and denying any further discussion by locking threads. In total, there will be OK tourneys, but no way foreign scene is gaining any benefit after these type of unavailing arrangement of events.

You... What..??

2pac closed a thread that he made regarding maps since it was a bit redundant (had another thread already open) and the OP wasn't the best organized so he's been mad since then despite my best to explain to him why it was closed.

I see. All the anger, blame and self-righteousness seems a bit rich if it really is based on the fact that this new, sustained series of weekly tournaments organised by staff at a great deal of time and effort, and generously sponsored by someone who clearly loves the game, doesn't use the "right" maps.
EleGant[AoV]
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
August 01 2015 15:40 GMT
#54
On August 02 2015 00:37 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2015 23:34 BigFan wrote:
On August 01 2015 22:33 ImbaTosS wrote:
On August 01 2015 19:13 outscar wrote:
Don't even try to complain about maps because admins are listening neither mapmakers, fans nor players. They don't even want to test new foreign mapmaker's maps regardless the fact that listed maps made their way into iCCup map pack. They just showing stats of korean maps when they stated early that the tourney was organized to strengthen the activity and support of the foreign BW scene, not considering that KeSPA scene is gone and percentage of winrate on those maps can be applied accurately only for ex korean pros. In general they follow rules of KeSPA/SoSPA scene by adapting only korean approved maps and not helping foreign scene to make a step with his own unique maps.

If you try to make a poll you will get yourself shut down, because only admins can decide what to do, what to change, arrange not the crowd, not even sponsor. I think 3-4 admins are taking too much responsibility for themselves, too much actions by not accepting other people's thoughts and denying any further discussion by locking threads. In total, there will be OK tourneys, but no way foreign scene is gaining any benefit after these type of unavailing arrangement of events.

You... What..??

2pac closed a thread that he made regarding maps since it was a bit redundant (had another thread already open) and the OP wasn't the best organized so he's been mad since then despite my best to explain to him why it was closed.

I see. All the anger, blame and self-righteousness seems a bit rich if it really is based on the fact that this new, sustained series of weekly tournaments organised by staff at a great deal of time and effort, and generously sponsored by someone who clearly loves the game, doesn't use the "right" maps.

That build is almost as standard as forge fe in PvZ.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
August 01 2015 19:03 GMT
#55
guys, you should all watch iwl-fuNny vs dsaqwe.

Really smart and entertaining game.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
August 01 2015 20:10 GMT
#56
^ indeed
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
August 01 2015 20:37 GMT
#57
holy shit this game
POGGERS
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19240 Posts
August 01 2015 20:56 GMT
#58
How's the cast going? What round is it?
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4992 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 22:53:41
August 01 2015 22:01 GMT
#59
Decision making OP.

I hope people stop crying Scan is too good and start working on their flaws.
Dandy came really close and Trutacz just killed himself, 3 times in a row. lol.
It made me think of Killer's first Bo3 vs Boxer.
+ Show Spoiler +

Game 1
Game 2
Game 3
FBH #1!
sas.ZaRaki
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain199 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-01 22:22:49
August 01 2015 22:14 GMT
#60
wow what happened today? you guys mixed game 2 with game 3 and we got hardcore spoiled.
Not to mention that you cant open the chat without seeing the winner of the match making comments when his game is being casted, we already know that scan is going to win but come on... if im watching a cast and one of the players is typing in a good mood in the chat by default i know the winner.
Can we make something about spoilers in the next one? i mean, it's not possible for me to watch the cast while chatting and not being spoiled? And if that is the case tell me so i dont open the chat again.
i hold nothing against anybody but please no spoilers. it ruins all my little fun
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