WOuld love to stay up for this, but I'd be too drunk watching UFC Jones vs. Evans to see this. Too bad this is the most packed groups in the Dual Tournaments.
I'm really happy to see HiyA playing again. I don't know how well he'll do, but even if he loses -- loses embarrassingly, it'll still be preferable to the STX Masters final being his last televised game... what a miserable night that was.
So yeah, no matter the outcome, it's still good. Of course, I'm hoping he wins 2-0 ezpz and crushes through this OSL and KT's like "fuck man, our Terran line sucks, we need HiyA" or some other team picks him up... but this is definitely a start.
please better games that yesterday, please better games than yesterday, please better games that yesterday, please better games than yesterday, please better games that yesterday, please better games than yesterday
also, I'm sturggling here to pick 2 of horang, hiya and zero. theres already too many zergs, but it's zero
On April 22 2012 12:47 Kanil wrote: I'm really happy to see HiyA playing again. I don't know how well he'll do, but even if he loses -- loses embarrassingly, it'll still be preferable to the STX Masters final being his last televised game... what a miserable night that was.
So yeah, no matter the outcome, it's still good. Of course, I'm hoping he wins 2-0 ezpz and crushes through this OSL and KT's like "fuck man, our Terran line sucks, we need HiyA" or some other team picks him up... but this is definitely a start.
I don't think losing embarrassingly here would be better than what happened in the last STX Masters Cup (I wish it was on this year ). I mean, yeah the team got swept clean, but Hiya's game against Sun was probably the best out of all the games played that night. I think he put up a better fight compared to Jaedong and Killer, it's really the fashion in which the team lost that made the night miserable imo, not Hiya's play.
DT tries to do something but dies on the nat with no damage CORSAIRS RETREAT RIGHT INTO FOUR SCOURGES TWO OUT OF THREE DOWN MUTALISK ATTACK, FIERCE BATTLE ON THE MAIN AIUR IS BEING OVERRUN
Archon push out with some zeal to see what could be done, mutalisk do not miss opportunity and rush into nat pulling probes and devastating main line also.
Thats like the 100th hydra to die to stormzzzz, learnn to move your hydraz out of storm area!!!! Isnt that a zerg 101 lesson? I dont play zerg so I wouldnt know but it seems to make sense
On April 22 2012 13:28 Renkaoru wrote: These times one can't help asking oneself: What Would Jaedong Have Done?
Yes.
Often, when faced with an inevitable apocalyptic situation such as facing a tidal wall of water sweeping towards me while I am on the steps of Wall Street, I ask myself the same thing.
On April 22 2012 13:32 Mortality wrote: fucking ridiculous.
STOP FUCKING PLAYING SC2 YOU BW PROGAMERS. IT REALLY FUCKING SHOWS. I SAW BETTER QUALITY PLAY IN 2006.
honestly though, it was a pretty cool strategy that was working relatively well until he failed on the follow through. It was way more interesting than last night's games.
On April 22 2012 13:32 Mortality wrote: fucking ridiculous.
STOP FUCKING PLAYING SC2 YOU BW PROGAMERS. IT REALLY FUCKING SHOWS. I SAW BETTER QUALITY PLAY IN 2006.
not from modesty
Did this guy REALLY make the top 4? REALLY?
at least HiyA's up next :D
He just continued a long tradition carried on by hero, type-b, Shine, and Pure, and continued after him by nDieSoo. The only recent OSL with all top tier players in the semis was the Flash, Free, Stork, and Jaedong Ro4.
If anyone noticed upgrades, Horang2 crunched out +2 ranged attack by the time Modesty had +3 attack range. Modesty's ground armor was superrrrr late, considering it was like +1 ground armor, +2 ranged by the time Horang2 had +2 armor, +3 attack. Storms just made it easier for him to roll the zerg army. Also doesn't help Modesty invested into +1 carapace for the mutas. lol....
On April 22 2012 13:32 Mortality wrote: fucking ridiculous.
STOP FUCKING PLAYING SC2 YOU BW PROGAMERS. IT REALLY FUCKING SHOWS. I SAW BETTER QUALITY PLAY IN 2006.
not from modesty
Did this guy REALLY make the top 4? REALLY?
at least HiyA's up next :D
He just continued a long tradition carried on by hero, type-b, Shine, and Pure, and continued after him by nDieSoo. The only recent OSL with all top tier players in the semis was the Flash, Free, Stork, and Jaedong Ro4.
Really great OSL, ahh if only Stork beat JD 3-2 that time...
On April 22 2012 13:32 Mortality wrote: fucking ridiculous.
STOP FUCKING PLAYING SC2 YOU BW PROGAMERS. IT REALLY FUCKING SHOWS. I SAW BETTER QUALITY PLAY IN 2006.
not from modesty
Did this guy REALLY make the top 4? REALLY?
at least HiyA's up next :D
He just continued a long tradition carried on by hero, type-b, Shine, and Pure, and continued after him by nDieSoo. The only recent OSL with all top tier players in the semis was the Flash, Free, Stork, and Jaedong Ro4.
Really great OSL, ahh if only Stork beat JD 3-2 that time...
He might have had another silver to add to his belt, is what I'm tempted to say.
On April 22 2012 13:32 Mortality wrote: fucking ridiculous.
STOP FUCKING PLAYING SC2 YOU BW PROGAMERS. IT REALLY FUCKING SHOWS. I SAW BETTER QUALITY PLAY IN 2006.
not from modesty
Did this guy REALLY make the top 4? REALLY?
at least HiyA's up next :D
He just continued a long tradition carried on by hero, type-b, Shine, and Pure, and continued after him by nDieSoo. The only recent OSL with all top tier players in the semis was the Flash, Free, Stork, and Jaedong Ro4.
Really great OSL, ahh if only Stork beat JD 3-2 that time...
On April 22 2012 13:42 Ideas wrote: like when's the last time you saw mutas micro'd well vs an archon and actually kill it? this strat was straight out of 2008 lol
Yeah, clearly good muta micro shows that he's been practising too much SC2, amirite guys?
Can we stop doing this to every LR thread ever please?
On April 22 2012 13:33 ymir233 wrote: Again, I will predict that HiyA will bunker rush the shit out of ZerO. That or +1 5rax into delayed late mech into lose miserably trololo
On April 22 2012 13:53 Masheyoon wrote: I don't understand why Hiya sent out that group of M&M... -_-
forces Zero away from his base and make some zerglings. Kind of pointless when Hiya So far behind already, but it was all he could do to stall for time.
On April 22 2012 13:52 l10f wrote: Why are commentators shittalking hiya so hard lol
What are they saying?
Just commenting on his lack of a team
They're talking as if HiyA is an outsider or something. It sounds like I'm hearing them commentate a Korean vs non-Korean in WCG where they always just assume the Korean is better and is going to win unless they get cheesed.
On April 22 2012 13:52 l10f wrote: Why are commentators shittalking hiya so hard lol
What are they saying?
Just commenting on his lack of a team
They're talking as if HiyA is an outsider or something. It sounds like I'm hearing them commentate a Korean vs non-Korean in WCG where they always just assume the Korean is better and is going to win unless they get cheesed.
Although it's sad, it's true though. I liked the comparison to political parties.
On April 22 2012 13:33 ymir233 wrote: Again, I will predict that HiyA will bunker rush the shit out of ZerO. That or +1 5rax into delayed late mech into lose miserably trololo
On April 22 2012 13:56 PineappleLumpsToss wrote: Come on Tigertoss, Daddy needs another Toss in the OSL.
Yournot tired of seeing TvZ in the OSL?? Rofl
I think he's more tired of seeing ZvZ -_-
I'm just tired of not seeing ?vP or Pv?. Let's face it, I'm a BW fan, so I'll watch (and enjoy) any MU, but I've always been partial to the manly race, so I'd love to see another Toss OSL Champion.
On April 22 2012 13:33 ymir233 wrote: Again, I will predict that HiyA will bunker rush the shit out of ZerO. That or +1 5rax into delayed late mech into lose miserably trololo
So, you're bragging about being completely wrong?
Well I was only wrong about late mech b/c ZerO decided to own HiyA earlier...either way HiyA had no chance lategame
On April 22 2012 13:33 ymir233 wrote: Again, I will predict that HiyA will bunker rush the shit out of ZerO. That or +1 5rax into delayed late mech into lose miserably trololo
So, you're bragging about being completely wrong?
Well I was only wrong about late mech b/c ZerO decided to own HiyA earlier...either way HiyA had no chance lategame
And the +1 5rax...
Indeed nothing that you said happened, and now you want to retcon it to "lol Hiya was lose see I was right!"
Congratulations on that daring, insightful prediction.
On April 22 2012 13:33 ymir233 wrote: Again, I will predict that HiyA will bunker rush the shit out of ZerO. That or +1 5rax into delayed late mech into lose miserably trololo
So, you're bragging about being completely wrong?
Well I was only wrong about late mech b/c ZerO decided to own HiyA earlier...either way HiyA had no chance lategame
And the +1 5rax...
Indeed nothing that you said happened, and now you want to retcon it to "lol Hiya was lose see I was right!"
Congratulations on that daring, insightful prediction.
- ______ - HiyA was clearly going for 5rax as seen by the diff rax timings...he was interrupted by the lings.
On April 22 2012 13:52 l10f wrote: Why are commentators shittalking hiya so hard lol
What are they saying?
Just commenting on his lack of a team
They're talking as if HiyA is an outsider or something. It sounds like I'm hearing them commentate a Korean vs non-Korean in WCG where they always just assume the Korean is better and is going to win unless they get cheesed.
Although it's sad, it's true though. I liked the comparison to political parties.
I don't agree. Obviously he's not gonna be as good as if he were on a team, and most people would expect him to lost to ZerO. But I don't think he's THAT much worse off. At least not enough for them to shut the possibility of him winning down hard. I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
I'd still pick HiyA over some players in this ODT.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
Wait, the Korean commentators actually say stuff like "this game is over" quite often in largely lopsided games...they mainly just spent the time making comments about how one REALLY needs a team for good prax...
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
Yeah, they do it all the time. Remember when Stats got his probes blown up by Leta's mine? The commentary for the rest of the game was about how Stats was basically fucked.
What's up with these old strategies? Stork using 2 gate, and Horang2 using dragoon-reaver (even the commentators said that this build is very old)... I might be over-analyzing a bit, but are these players paying tribute to the history of Brood War???
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
All this ZerO hate is ridiculous. If you really wanted your player to win over ZerO, then they should've played better. ZerO simply outplayed everyone else
On April 22 2012 14:13 ryanymoon wrote: What's up with these old strategies? Stork using 2 gate, and Horang2 using dragoon-reaver (even the commentators said that this build is very old)... I might be over-analyzing a bit, but are these players paying tribute to the history of Brood War???
Well Horangee scouted hydra den, so going robo actually makes sense. Then his terrible control doesn't.
On April 22 2012 14:13 ryanymoon wrote: What's up with these old strategies? Stork using 2 gate, and Horang2 using dragoon-reaver (even the commentators said that this build is very old)... I might be over-analyzing a bit, but are these players paying tribute to the history of Brood War???
His build was fine, he spotted the hydra den, so he went reaver instead of sairs. Could have gone hts instead I guess, but theres nothing wrong with a reaver counter. He just sent his reaver + shuttle away before his 2nd reaver was out (and carelessly lost them, though that didnt matter at that point).
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
That's probably right. So, please say that, not "they would never say such things about a player on a team". A lot of people will take you at face value because they don't speak the language.
On April 22 2012 14:13 khaydarin9 wrote: Zero most hated person in eSports right now.
huh? where is this coming from
Gets out of the group by beating the popular underdog and one of the last remaining protoss in the tournament, now making it significantly less likely that either will get out (and impossible for them to both get out).
On April 22 2012 14:13 ryanymoon wrote: What's up with these old strategies? Stork using 2 gate, and Horang2 using dragoon-reaver (even the commentators said that this build is very old)... I might be over-analyzing a bit, but are these players paying tribute to the history of Brood War???
Dragoon-reaver is a great idea when you see your opponent trying to kill you with 4 hatcheries of hydras. Stork is quite an old player, and besides he's always been known to mix in gateways, either more often, or with the same frequency as other players (but since he has more games, we see him opening with gates more often).
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
Dude Hiya had no chance -_-
At the point where the commentator first stated that the game was over, he did.
He was very far behind, but if he decided to turtle, he could have fended off the mutas, and you never know after that.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
Dude Hiya had no chance -_-
At the point where the commentator first stated that the game was over, he did.
He was very far behind, but if he decided to turtle, he could have fended off the mutas, and you never know after that.
He had zero marines and zero turrets while Zero's spire was well on its way, not to mention ling speed was upgraded. Assuming that Zero doesn't decide to hold position his mutalisks on top of Hiya's marines while not attacking, I don't think Hiya had any chance.
On April 22 2012 14:13 khaydarin9 wrote: Zero most hated person in eSports right now.
huh? where is this coming from
Gets out of the group by beating the popular underdog and one of the last remaining protoss in the tournament, now making it significantly less likely that either will get out (and impossible for them to both get out).
So you hate Zero? what the fuck kind of logic do you have? He can't help if Horang2 made the stupidest decision ever and that Hiya died to basically zerglings.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
Dude Hiya had no chance -_-
At the point where the commentator first stated that the game was over, he did.
He was very far behind, but if he decided to turtle, he could have fended off the mutas, and you never know after that.
He had zero marines and zero turrets while Zero's spire was well on its way, not to mention ling speed was upgraded. Assuming that Zero doesn't decide to hold position his mutalisks on top of Hiya's marines while not attacking, I don't think Hiya had any chance.
He had 12 marines and 1 medic and 3 turrets by the time he came with the mutas. Even if he had no chance of winning, my point was that it was biased. Which it was. I don't hear them saying there was no way horang2 could have beaten zero, and his decision making and reaction time was even worse than hiya
On April 22 2012 14:13 khaydarin9 wrote: Zero most hated person in eSports right now.
huh? where is this coming from
Gets out of the group by beating the popular underdog and one of the last remaining protoss in the tournament, now making it significantly less likely that either will get out (and impossible for them to both get out).
So you hate Zero? what the fuck kind of logic do you have? He can't help if Horang2 made the stupidest decision ever and that Hiya died to basically zerglings.
People can't hate players for eliminating players they're rooting for?
Also, it was an exaggeration. Not that there are really many people contesting for the title of "most hated person in eSports".
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
Dude Hiya had no chance -_-
At the point where the commentator first stated that the game was over, he did.
He was very far behind, but if he decided to turtle, he could have fended off the mutas, and you never know after that.
He had zero marines and zero turrets while Zero's spire was well on its way, not to mention ling speed was upgraded. Assuming that Zero doesn't decide to hold position his mutalisks on top of Hiya's marines while not attacking, I don't think Hiya had any chance.
He had 12 marines and 1 medic and 3 turrets by the time he came with the mutas.
While Zero had 11 mutalisks, some speedlings and an untouched economy with three bases. Even slightly competent muta micro meant that Hiya was dead, which is what happened.
Anyway, on to Hiya vs Modesty! I believe in Modesty's terrible ZvT to believe that Hiya still has a chance here.
Even if he had no chance of winning, my point was that it was biased. Which it was. I don't hear them saying there was no way horang2 could have beaten zero, and his decision making and reaction time was even worse than hiya
I didn't hear it as being biased towards Hiya because he doesn't have a team at all. It was biased because he was basically dead in that game.
Pretty much the same exact game and commentators say the same thing about Flash, albeit on a lesser level because it's the finals.
On April 22 2012 14:13 khaydarin9 wrote: Zero most hated person in eSports right now.
huh? where is this coming from
Gets out of the group by beating the popular underdog and one of the last remaining protoss in the tournament, now making it significantly less likely that either will get out (and impossible for them to both get out).
I don't know about you but I'd much rather have ZerO than horang2 in OSL, and as much as I like hiya I don't think he'll make it into OSL, and even if he does, I don't think the games will be as good as if someone else got in.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
Dude Hiya had no chance -_-
At the point where the commentator first stated that the game was over, he did.
He was very far behind, but if he decided to turtle, he could have fended off the mutas, and you never know after that.
He had zero marines and zero turrets while Zero's spire was well on its way, not to mention ling speed was upgraded. Assuming that Zero doesn't decide to hold position his mutalisks on top of Hiya's marines while not attacking, I don't think Hiya had any chance.
He had 12 marines and 1 medic and 3 turrets by the time he came with the mutas.
While Zero had 11 mutalisks, some speedlings and an untouched economy with three bases. Even slightly competent muta micro meant that Hiya was dead, which is what happened.
Anyway, on to Hiya vs Modesty! I believe in Modesty's terrible ZvT to believe that Hiya still has a chance here.
Whether he was dead or not is irrelevant to my initial point anyway. It was biased casting.
On April 22 2012 14:09 l10f wrote: I can't believe he actually said "this game is over" before HiyA GG'd. That's very bad manner, and he still had a chance to win. They would never say such a thing about a player with a team.
But they do say that about players on a team.
I mean, I can't speak Korean, so I could be wrong, but I've heard them talking about how a player should GG, or wonder aloud why they aren't GGing, or something like that.
That's usually late in the game, where it's like 4 base to 1 base, kinda like a fantasy GG timing, but not when HiyA still had a chance to win.. crazier things have happened in other games.
Dude Hiya had no chance -_-
At the point where the commentator first stated that the game was over, he did.
He was very far behind, but if he decided to turtle, he could have fended off the mutas, and you never know after that.
He had zero marines and zero turrets while Zero's spire was well on its way, not to mention ling speed was upgraded. Assuming that Zero doesn't decide to hold position his mutalisks on top of Hiya's marines while not attacking, I don't think Hiya had any chance.
He had 12 marines and 1 medic and 3 turrets by the time he came with the mutas.
While Zero had 11 mutalisks, some speedlings and an untouched economy with three bases. Even slightly competent muta micro meant that Hiya was dead, which is what happened.
Anyway, on to Hiya vs Modesty! I believe in Modesty's terrible ZvT to believe that Hiya still has a chance here.
Whether he was dead or not is irrelevant to my initial point anyway. It was biased casting.
Anyway, go HiyA!
All they've been talking about for the past few minutes is how great it would be if Hiya wins, though.
Two vulture sneak in! Too bad they don't seem able to do much damage. Wraith fly in but gets killed by hydralisk with no damage hydralisk come in but bunker and tank there
Fuck, that was a lot of irradiates. This composition is going to be really cool I hope, but Modesty should have no shortage of lurkers, and it looks like he's expanding too much given that he knows Hiya isn't meching now.
Now we get to see him show off some sick TvP. Hope Horang2 will give him a good game. I wish both of them could advance, but oh well. May the best man win :D
On April 22 2012 14:39 okum wrote: Someone remind me why Modesty is on a pro team and not Hiya.
Because STX didn't disband and the teams decided to be bitchy towards players who lost their jobs. Just look at Anytime who found out through the media that he had been laid off, even after Hwaseung had promised he would always have a place at the company even after leaving Starcraft (that is, they would hire him for non-SC related work).
On April 22 2012 14:51 UTL_Unlimited wrote: Hiya is beating Jessica Alba on most searched list on korean websites EDIT: also the lotto results apparently. WOW HIYA!! TROLOLOL
Horang does another recall which fails to accomplish much of anything. If he wants to win, he needs to expand behind them. Hiya's army is getting on even terms with Horangs. Not too much longer until upgrades kick in.
Horang chose a really nice spot to recall where likely there wouldn't be any mines... felt like Hiya was in a decent spot if he could block the 2nd recall and get Vessels.
On April 22 2012 15:15 okum wrote: What the hell Hiya... no multitasking whatsoever? :/
This doesn't reflect Hiya or that game at all.
So why did he allow all his supply depots to be taken out by two dragoons when he actually had units back in his base (but not using them defend with)?
On April 22 2012 15:14 Mortality wrote: Cannot believe he let that arbiter sit in his main long enough for a second recall. D rank ICCup mistake.
I thought Horang2 just recalled a second arbiter.
On April 22 2012 15:15 okum wrote: What the hell Hiya... no multitasking whatsoever? :/
This doesn't reflect Hiya or that game at all.
So why did he allow all his supply depots to be taken out by two dragoons when he actually had units back in his base (but not using them defend with)?
There were more than two dragoons, and he didn't have infinite detection. Most of his units were, in fact, in the push, which is where he must have estimated most of his chances of winning were.
Seriously two dragoons? Could their DPS possibly bring down 130 supply of depots in that interval?
On April 22 2012 15:14 ymir233 wrote: If HiyA doesn't get picked up after this...
Why would anyone pick him? Honestly his play was not that good. Lots of huge mistakes.
After 9 months? Of course he's rusty, but he's still got that talent/skill. A little polishing and...things might be a bit more exciting.
It's not the matter of skill, it's that he costs money. Of course every team would want Hiya instead of their 3rd Terran, but most teams don't have the finances for that.
Hiya's timings and overall play wasn't pinpoint and crisp, but it was good overall (cept vs Zero). I'm glad he at least won a game. Maybe we can see more from the Hollywood Fish King in the future!
What's the current official explanation for why Hiya is teamless? He wants some amount of salary that no team would give him? Because, money aside, his skill is certainly above other players on the current active rosters.
Man, if Hiya was actually a true progamer, he probably would've made it out of this group. He looked like an amateur playing today. Kind of sad because he had a very good shot against both Horang2 and Zero.
On April 22 2012 15:29 Chimpalimp wrote: Hiya's timings and overall play wasn't pinpoint and crisp, but it was good overall (cept vs Zero). I'm glad he at least won a game. Maybe we can see more from the Hollywood Fish King in the future!
On April 22 2012 15:29 Chimpalimp wrote: Hiya's timings and overall play wasn't pinpoint and crisp, but it was good overall (cept vs Zero). I'm glad he at least won a game. Maybe we can see more from the Hollywood Fish King in the future!
On April 22 2012 15:35 pylonsalad wrote: I wish Woonjin would pick up Hiya. He would take a load off Light's shoulders. Stars would be serious contenders.
tbh I doubt any team is looking for BW talent at this point. If they know its only a matter of 3-4 months before its pure sc2 they're not going to focus on scouting BW talent.
hiya played well until that multitasking fail at the end :\. He never even made a starport that game :O. The mains in gladiator are really small though, but still there's no excuse for that.
On April 22 2012 15:29 Chimpalimp wrote: Hiya's timings and overall play wasn't pinpoint and crisp, but it was good overall (cept vs Zero). I'm glad he at least won a game. Maybe we can see more from the Hollywood Fish King in the future!
Aww Hiya. Still a decent showing though considering what a disaster his first game against Zero was. Beating modesty and putting up a respectable effort against Horang2 despite coming out of retirement isn't too bad.
Saw Zero win twice and I thought to myself "surely people will be happy for him and reccomend his games, especially considering his recent losing streak and the fact that he was overall the best player last season" but no, people are crying their eyes out because Hiya lost. Sometimes I just don't get you guys.
Apart from Horang2's awesome army engagement in the first game, no players are playing at a reasonable high level. I can bet that if all of our A/B foreigners make appearance in the OSL, they would not have made some of the fundamental mistakes.
On April 22 2012 23:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote: Saw Zero win twice and I thought to myself "surely people will be happy for him and reccomend his games, especially considering his recent losing streak and the fact that he was overall the best player last season" but no, people are crying their eyes out because Hiya lost. Sometimes I just don't get you guys.
Are you serious? This was probably hiya's last progamer appearance for good barring some miraculous team pickup and you're wondering why people are caring more about that?
On April 22 2012 23:41 blahblahblahwhatever wrote: Saw Zero win twice and I thought to myself "surely people will be happy for him and reccomend his games, especially considering his recent losing streak and the fact that he was overall the best player last season" but no, people are crying their eyes out because Hiya lost. Sometimes I just don't get you guys.
The player preference has nothing to do with it. Hiya vs Zero game was TERRIBLE (on Hiya's side).
Ahhh well, at least hiya won a game, and he looked decent halfway decent vs. Horang, so maybe one of the richer teams will take a flyer on him.........
On April 23 2012 05:21 Release wrote: you guys hsouldn't be blaming zero. Blame horang2.
Shouldn't be blaming either of them. It's ridiculous to expect one of them to throw away their OSL chances just to help Hiya. Yeah it sucks he didn't get through, but blame the teams for not picking him, not the other players
On April 23 2012 06:30 bearbuddy wrote: Or just don't blame anyone. This may be one of the last BW tournies, so it's not just Hiya that's taking a last stand. It's everybody.
There will still be an amateur scene for quite awhile longer, so this will be one of the last major tournaments, but there will be at least some bw to watch for awhile yet. And who knows, maybe the sc2 scene will bomb badly enough that bw will make a comeback in some form..... I can hope.....
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Sad but true. LET'S GO HIYAAA!!!!
