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kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3121
On August 19 2011 18:55 gngfn wrote:
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On August 19 2011 18:54 sixfour wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 gngfn wrote:
Games like this make you wonder whether some progamers have brains. Jaedong wins this ten times out of ten.


tbh it reminded me of his game vs sea on dreamliner. which he lost.

That's a fair point, but taking a third on Neo Beltway as Z is a little different from doing it on Dreamliner.

As in, actually fucking possible.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3122
On August 19 2011 18:58 Bleak wrote:
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On August 19 2011 18:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:56 Bleak wrote:
Hmm, I didn't get the format, doesn't the winner continue to play until he gets beaten?


That's winner's league. In Proleague you just send out 7 players who all play bo1.


Can you send a player more than once?

Only for the ace match.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3123
On August 19 2011 18:57 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:55 gngfn wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:54 sixfour wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 gngfn wrote:
Games like this make you wonder whether some progamers have brains. Jaedong wins this ten times out of ten.


tbh it reminded me of his game vs sea on dreamliner. which he lost.

That's a fair point, but taking a third on Neo Beltway as Z is a little different from doing it on Dreamliner.

The map is irrelevant. If he had gotten a third base and droned after his first round of mutas Fantasy wouldn't have been able to leave his base. That was a huge advantage. He got SCVs, killed all of the marines, and forced a shit ton of turrets that would have been useless if he had done anything else.

You need to read my post more carefully and think about what my position is. (Hint: I'm saying that Perfective had a much better path to lategame than Jaedong did.)
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3124
KT coaching fail. It's unreal... SKT was bound to send someone with big stage experience first, Fantasy being the best choice, KT sends a rookie :|. And now Bisu gets Crazy-Hydra... yeah. It's not so much as a SKT coach triumph as it is a KT coach fail, so sad.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3125
On August 19 2011 18:55 Nikon wrote:
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On August 19 2011 18:52 SimonB wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:50 BloodDrunK wrote:
soo sad. roo was ahead but got stubborn and didn't expand. very rookie mistake.

What was his mistake really? Yeah, maybe he could've been a little better, but I saw no glaring mistakes. The zerg rush just didn't do quite enough damage, and Fantasy defended well.


What? He killed a ton of marines, which meant that Fantasy wouldn't be able to move out comfortably for quite some time. Especially with mutas out and stuff. Instead of capitalising on this and taking an easy third, he did an all-in. And it didn't work out.


by the time he committed, it was already too late to switch. perfective never had a timing window to switch because all of his mutas were very low health.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3126
On August 19 2011 18:57 tedster wrote:
I was having horrible nightmares and woke up just in time to catch all of game 1, i have no idea how to feel about this but hell, why not

Your subconscious's natural alarm clock for important events =P
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3127
Yeah 100% hydra bust
ggaemo fan
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 09:58:51
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3128
BIGASS STORM COMING OVER HERE
I WONT TURN OFF COMP BECAUSE OF IT
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3129
On August 19 2011 18:54 gngfn wrote:
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On August 19 2011 18:52 SimonB wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:50 BloodDrunK wrote:
soo sad. roo was ahead but got stubborn and didn't expand. very rookie mistake.

What was his mistake really? Yeah, maybe he could've been a little better, but I saw no glaring mistakes. The zerg rush just didn't do quite enough damage, and Fantasy defended well.

It did plenty of damage. When you see the Terran hide behind 15 turrets and two bunkers off of 2 rax, you expand and drone up, then destroy him lategame because all his strong timings are messed up. In fact, Hyuk did this very thing against Flash.

I don't think that's necessarily the best decision. Either way, it's razor thin; you can't blame Roo for that.

Remember the lings in the beginning means fewer drones at that point. Also, Fantasy basically hadn't lost any econ (maybe 1 scv?). It takes time for the zerg to get his econ up at that point. You try to expand against a two base terran with plenty of scvs won't guarantee anything.

I call it a well-played game that you just lose. No shame in that.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3130
On August 19 2011 18:58 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:56 Bleak wrote:
Hmm, I didn't get the format, doesn't the winner continue to play until he gets beaten?


That's winner's league. In Proleague you just send out 7 players who all play bo1.


Can you send a player more than once?


Only if it goes to the Ace match i.e. at 3-3.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3131
All those zergling that got suicided in the end there, could have been drones powering up his economy. I dont understand why he just cant try and switch up instead of just keep doing an all in when his initial plan didnt work. Wich was to do enough damage with his lings and delay anti air defence so his mutas can rape. But when that didnt work why keep doing it?
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 19 2011 09:58 GMT
#3132
On August 19 2011 18:57 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:55 gngfn wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:54 sixfour wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 gngfn wrote:
Games like this make you wonder whether some progamers have brains. Jaedong wins this ten times out of ten.


tbh it reminded me of his game vs sea on dreamliner. which he lost.

That's a fair point, but taking a third on Neo Beltway as Z is a little different from doing it on Dreamliner.

The map is irrelevant. If he had gotten a third base and droned after his first round of mutas Fantasy wouldn't have been able to leave his base. That was a huge advantage. He got SCVs, killed all of the marines, and forced a shit ton of turrets that would have been useless if he had done anything else.


If he didn't continue to only pump mutas, fantasy would have moved out and just killed him. He had to keep going with it.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3133
On August 19 2011 18:58 Kiante wrote:
its gonna be dumb cheese
probably revolving around drops
bisu will go reavers and win


KT: we got more time to craft beautiful builds? AL IN YOOO~~

hahaha

*flamethrower engage*
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jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3134
On August 19 2011 18:58 Bleak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:56 Bleak wrote:
Hmm, I didn't get the format, doesn't the winner continue to play until he gets beaten?


That's winner's league. In Proleague you just send out 7 players who all play bo1.


Can you send a player more than once?


No only in case of an ace match. If it is 3-3 it comes down to ace match. Then you can send out a player who has played already.
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3135
On August 19 2011 18:57 letian wrote:
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On August 19 2011 18:56 letian wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:53 bo0 wrote:
Uhm, could anyone briefly go over what happened there? I can see how not taking more bases while containing with mutas was a huge mistake by Roo, but was it really over? :O

(silly sc2kid asking this)

it was an all-in 2 hatch muta, quick and deadly, Fanta did a greeeat job at not dying. Roo just didn't have minerals for any more units, he had to push more lings in the beginning I guess, but .. well maybe someone who's B will clarify.

yes, expanding and droning could do the trick, but Roo underestimated the situation a bit.


I remember JD doing 2 hatch muta as a standard BO (no all-in), but with a higher drone count.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3136
good luck crazy-hydrda you will need it
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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3137
On August 19 2011 18:58 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:58 Bleak wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:57 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:56 Bleak wrote:
Hmm, I didn't get the format, doesn't the winner continue to play until he gets beaten?


That's winner's league. In Proleague you just send out 7 players who all play bo1.


Can you send a player more than once?

Only for the ace match.


Oh ok, I see. Thanks for clarification.

"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3138
On August 19 2011 18:58 Kiante wrote:
its gonna be dumb cheese
probably revolving around drops
bisu will go reavers and win

I smell a hydra bust

lol...
T H C makes ppl happy
10cr
Profile Joined September 2009
Thailand287 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3139
i feel some sort of all-in coming
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 19 2011 09:59 GMT
#3140
On August 19 2011 18:58 Itachii wrote:
BIGASS STORM COMING OVER HERE
I WONT TURN OFF COMP BECAUSE OF IT

Perfectly clear sky at Warsaw :D, go go beesuit!
Stork[gm]
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