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[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 159

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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 10:02:41
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3161
cool add from t1 \\ fan service
ace hwaiting!!
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3162
On August 19 2011 19:01 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Fantasy owes that hair-stylist a meal IMO.

Some ramen maybe? XD
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3163
SKT REPRESENT
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3164
On August 19 2011 18:58 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:57 thopol wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:55 gngfn wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:54 sixfour wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 gngfn wrote:
Games like this make you wonder whether some progamers have brains. Jaedong wins this ten times out of ten.


tbh it reminded me of his game vs sea on dreamliner. which he lost.

That's a fair point, but taking a third on Neo Beltway as Z is a little different from doing it on Dreamliner.

The map is irrelevant. If he had gotten a third base and droned after his first round of mutas Fantasy wouldn't have been able to leave his base. That was a huge advantage. He got SCVs, killed all of the marines, and forced a shit ton of turrets that would have been useless if he had done anything else.


If he didn't continue to only pump mutas, fantasy would have moved out and just killed him. He had to keep going with it.

He had 2 rax and zero units. The mutas he had could certainly have kept him in his base for a while. He may have had to reinforce a bit, but there is no way that he was forced to all-in. No way in hell.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3165
On August 19 2011 18:58 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:57 thopol wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:55 gngfn wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:54 sixfour wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 gngfn wrote:
Games like this make you wonder whether some progamers have brains. Jaedong wins this ten times out of ten.


tbh it reminded me of his game vs sea on dreamliner. which he lost.

That's a fair point, but taking a third on Neo Beltway as Z is a little different from doing it on Dreamliner.

The map is irrelevant. If he had gotten a third base and droned after his first round of mutas Fantasy wouldn't have been able to leave his base. That was a huge advantage. He got SCVs, killed all of the marines, and forced a shit ton of turrets that would have been useless if he had done anything else.


If he didn't continue to only pump mutas, fantasy would have moved out and just killed him. He had to keep going with it.

Sorry, I really don't see the "move out and kill" timing for a 2 rax terran with zero marines. Fantasy's marine count was kept consistently low despite the fact that Perfective was consistently engaging on terrain favorable to the marines and in range of 2-3 turrets at every angle. You don't need to pump mass muta to have good odds against 2 rax mnm with mutas attacking from over your own cliffs and sunkens at your natural.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3166
On August 19 2011 19:01 hacklebeast wrote:
Best rescinded his "i won't show my abs" pledge for the comercial.

Wasn't that just old footage?

Fantasy maintains his undefeated streak in ProLeague Grand Finals.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3167
Hey! Remember meeeeeeeee? Bout to get rolled by Bee Vee Zeeeeeee.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Trajan98
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada203 Posts
August 19 2011 10:01 GMT
#3168
On August 19 2011 19:00 Ikonn wrote:
you can do it CH! Bisu is still a protoss


Hes not Protoss hes Bisu.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4134 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3169
On August 19 2011 18:58 fallingdream wrote:
KT coaching fail. It's unreal... SKT was bound to send someone with big stage experience first, Fantasy being the best choice, KT sends a rookie :|. And now Bisu gets Crazy-Hydra... yeah. It's not so much as a SKT coach triumph as it is a KT coach fail, so sad.


Actually, KT are succesfully avoiding ZvZs for the moment which I think is good for them, however, SKT just have the better players and KT has to rely either on very specific(concrete) match ups or some heroism such as Roo beating Fanta or Crazy beating Bisu to stand a chance
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Kiwifruit
Profile Joined August 2011
New Zealand130 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3170
On August 19 2011 18:56 Mascherano wrote:
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On August 19 2011 18:55 hmmm... wrote:
hydra bust incoming



Only works against Stork.
"You take the good things from every different discipline, use what works, and you throw the rest away" - Bruce Lee, Atheist.
hmmm...
Profile Joined March 2011
632 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3171
i feel like coach park always gets the matchups right perfectly
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3172
Its okay guys

we still got it

KT coach said 4-2 right?

In the woods, there lurks..
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3173
On August 19 2011 19:01 o[twist] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:00 Hero.SP wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:58 hacklebeast wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:57 thopol wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:55 gngfn wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:54 sixfour wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 gngfn wrote:
Games like this make you wonder whether some progamers have brains. Jaedong wins this ten times out of ten.


tbh it reminded me of his game vs sea on dreamliner. which he lost.

That's a fair point, but taking a third on Neo Beltway as Z is a little different from doing it on Dreamliner.

The map is irrelevant. If he had gotten a third base and droned after his first round of mutas Fantasy wouldn't have been able to leave his base. That was a huge advantage. He got SCVs, killed all of the marines, and forced a shit ton of turrets that would have been useless if he had done anything else.


If he didn't continue to only pump mutas, fantasy would have moved out and just killed him. He had to keep going with it.


Nah, roo could just make some lurks to keep Fanta at bay. Pretty sure that's how you keep Terran in his base.


right, i think the best move was to switch to lurkers, especially if he saw fanta was teching to valks, and then to expand


he had a large enough marine force, fantasy would have been in the main before the upgrade finished
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3174
On August 19 2011 19:02 Iplaythings wrote:
Its okay guys

we still got it

KT coach said 4-2 right?


i like how even the kt fans are calling it 2-0 already
Writer
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3175
On August 19 2011 19:00 Spica wrote:
OMFG BEST IN SHOWER *__*


that was so PG
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 19 2011 10:02 GMT
#3176
On August 19 2011 19:02 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:02 Iplaythings wrote:
Its okay guys

we still got it

KT coach said 4-2 right?


i like how even the kt fans are calling it 2-0 already

I said nothing about CH losing.
In the woods, there lurks..
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 10:03:29
August 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#3177
On August 19 2011 19:02 Kiante wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 19:02 Iplaythings wrote:
Its okay guys

we still got it

KT coach said 4-2 right?


i like how even the kt fans are calling it 2-0 already


Touché.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
August 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#3178
On August 19 2011 18:58 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 18:55 Nikon wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:52 SimonB wrote:
On August 19 2011 18:50 BloodDrunK wrote:
soo sad. roo was ahead but got stubborn and didn't expand. very rookie mistake.

What was his mistake really? Yeah, maybe he could've been a little better, but I saw no glaring mistakes. The zerg rush just didn't do quite enough damage, and Fantasy defended well.


What? He killed a ton of marines, which meant that Fantasy wouldn't be able to move out comfortably for quite some time. Especially with mutas out and stuff. Instead of capitalising on this and taking an easy third, he did an all-in. And it didn't work out.


by the time he committed, it was already too late to switch. perfective never had a timing window to switch because all of his mutas were very low health.


Well, he did kill some marines and turrets with his mutas, but the thing is that beyond forcing turrets, he did little to no econ damage, and Fantasy was able to outmacro him in the end, due to the sheer advantage in worker numbers, which I feel could've been avoided, had Roo expanded and droned up, let's say somewhere around when he had 9-12 mutas out.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
August 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#3179
On August 19 2011 19:01 Telcontar wrote:
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On August 19 2011 19:01 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Fantasy owes that hair-stylist a meal IMO.

Some ramen maybe? XD

Kimchi seems more appropriate
T H C makes ppl happy
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
August 19 2011 10:03 GMT
#3180
CH has not a chance against Bisu
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
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