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[SPL] PO Day 1, CJ vs KT - Page 87

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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 23 2011 06:47 GMT
#1721
On July 23 2011 15:41 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:40 King[Neikos] wrote:
god this is becoming so lame, i wonder if shine intended this to happen when he started using the hydra burst


Wtf why are people attributing old builds to new players now T.T! Hydra bust and +1 zeal are some of the most well known, executed, explored builds in the book.

True but for years and years "hydra bust" meant 2 hatch allin, sometimes 4 but most often 2.
The newish trend of going 3 hat either allin or macro started with zero > stork I think.
Yes it had been done before, the first time I can remember (the fake version I mean) is
gorush > bisu on python which spawned a mini trend of people doing variations of it but this time it has become a staple build and I really think that can be attributed to zero.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 06:48:38
July 23 2011 06:47 GMT
#1722
On July 23 2011 15:41 VGhost wrote:
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On July 23 2011 15:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
CJ doesn't have anyone of Zero's caliber so they're fucked.


As a Woongjin fan I hate to break this do you, but Hydra's better than ZerO.

(So is Light, probably, for that matter, even if he doesn't have the Starleague bling, but that's really neither here nor there.)


No, neither Hydra nor Light are better than Zero, just more consistent. Zero's peak skill is way above those two's.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
July 23 2011 06:48 GMT
#1723
Wow Movie - how could you. . .
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
July 23 2011 06:48 GMT
#1724
CHINJWA FIGHTING

BEASTMODE TURN ON
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 23 2011 06:48 GMT
#1725
On July 23 2011 15:47 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:41 Lightwip wrote:
I hate this zerg style of constantly doing Hydra busts.
It's the first legitimate reason to hate Zero. The only other one I have is for rolling over vs Flash in the MSL.


... SKT T1 zergs have really good hydra busts. Zero uses more turtle on 4 bases than hydra bust.

Yeah no kidding, s2 and Soo are like hydra bust specialists nowadays. o_O;
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 23 2011 06:48 GMT
#1726
On July 23 2011 15:47 bearbuddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:41 Lightwip wrote:
I hate this zerg style of constantly doing Hydra busts.
It's the first legitimate reason to hate Zero. The only other one I have is for rolling over vs Flash in the MSL.


... SKT T1 zergs have really good hydra busts. Zero uses more turtle on 4 bases than hydra bust.

Zero is the first person I saw use this pseudo-hydra bust build. I certainly hate it.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
July 23 2011 06:48 GMT
#1727
Finally a good zerg...

Show them Hydra!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
July 23 2011 06:49 GMT
#1728
On July 23 2011 15:48 Emon_ wrote:
Wow Movie - how could you. . .
well hoejja lost too. so all is fair =D
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 06:50:03
July 23 2011 06:49 GMT
#1729
On July 23 2011 15:48 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:47 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 Lightwip wrote:
I hate this zerg style of constantly doing Hydra busts.
It's the first legitimate reason to hate Zero. The only other one I have is for rolling over vs Flash in the MSL.


... SKT T1 zergs have really good hydra busts. Zero uses more turtle on 4 bases than hydra bust.

Zero is the first person I saw use this pseudo-hydra bust build. I certainly hate it.

You obviously love it because you keep bringing it up
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 23 2011 06:49 GMT
#1730
btw that game reminded me of how KT technically lost the winner's league finals. so that somewhat removed a thorn in my heart.
Woo Jung Ho
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
July 23 2011 06:49 GMT
#1731
On July 23 2011 15:47 pylonsalad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:41 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
CJ doesn't have anyone of Zero's caliber so they're fucked.


As a Woongjin fan I hate to break this do you, but Hydra's better than ZerO.

(So is Light, probably, for that matter, even if he doesn't have the Starleague bling, but that's really neither here nor there.)


No, neither Hydra nor Light are better than Zero, just more consistent. Zero's peak skill is way above those two's.


Maybe, but I put a lot of value on consistency.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 23 2011 06:50 GMT
#1732
6th set now underway
Will Hydra give CJ a chance with the Ace match or will Stats squash all hopes?

Map is New bloody ridge
Hydra in brown at 1 o'clock
Stats in white at 7 o'clock

pylon placed at the nat, probe moving out to scout

Overpool for Hydra as the probe arrives in the main
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
July 23 2011 06:50 GMT
#1733
heeeedraaaa hwaiting!!! i wanna see some flash ace match action
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 23 2011 06:51 GMT
#1734
On July 23 2011 15:49 Brad` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:48 Lightwip wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:47 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 Lightwip wrote:
I hate this zerg style of constantly doing Hydra busts.
It's the first legitimate reason to hate Zero. The only other one I have is for rolling over vs Flash in the MSL.


... SKT T1 zergs have really good hydra busts. Zero uses more turtle on 4 bases than hydra bust.

Zero is the first person I saw use this pseudo-hydra bust build. I certainly hate it.

You obviously love it because you keep bringing it up

Well I do love that no one tries it against Bisu because they know it's only a scrub-bashing build and he's the only non-scrub PvZ, so I guess in a way you're right .
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
July 23 2011 06:51 GMT
#1735
early pool but only 2 lings..O_O
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 06:54:31
July 23 2011 06:51 GMT
#1736
On July 23 2011 15:48 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:47 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 Lightwip wrote:
I hate this zerg style of constantly doing Hydra busts.
It's the first legitimate reason to hate Zero. The only other one I have is for rolling over vs Flash in the MSL.


... SKT T1 zergs have really good hydra busts. Zero uses more turtle on 4 bases than hydra bust.

Yeah no kidding, s2 and Soo are like hydra bust specialists nowadays. o_O;


soO only builds zerglings because with hydra he would have to transition to defiler lurker and he's really shitty with that lol >_> + Show Spoiler [starleague/whatwassit, ah osl] +
eat that sea


m o all the same <_<
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 06:52:41
July 23 2011 06:52 GMT
#1737
On July 23 2011 15:51 Katsuge wrote:
early pool but only 2 lings..O_O

fast muta/lurker

maybe 3hatch lurker bust o_o
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 23 2011 06:52 GMT
#1738
Stats throws up a forge first, his probe continues to harass Hydra's mineral line
Overlord almost at Stats natural

nexus started for stats
Hydra sending out a drone to 5 o'clock where it becomes a hatchery
another drone sent out to the nat, hydra taking his main geyser

meanwhile stats warps in a cannon and gateway at his nat completing that forge/gateway set up
zerglings chasing that scouting probe

Hydra moving up to Lair
Stats forge is spinning, core is warping in at the main
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
July 23 2011 06:52 GMT
#1739
spire first from hydra
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
July 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#1740
On July 23 2011 15:51 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:48 Spica wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:47 bearbuddy wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 Lightwip wrote:
I hate this zerg style of constantly doing Hydra busts.
It's the first legitimate reason to hate Zero. The only other one I have is for rolling over vs Flash in the MSL.


... SKT T1 zergs have really good hydra busts. Zero uses more turtle on 4 bases than hydra bust.

Yeah no kidding, s2 and Soo are like hydra bust specialists nowadays. o_O;


soO only builds zerglings because with hydra he would have to transition to defiler lurker and he's really shitty with that lol >_> + Show Spoiler [starleague/whatwassit, ah msl] +
eat that sea


Pretty sure that was OSL.

Also pretty sure it doesn't really apply because Sea's a T.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
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