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DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#1741
On July 23 2011 15:49 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:47 pylonsalad wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
CJ doesn't have anyone of Zero's caliber so they're fucked.


As a Woongjin fan I hate to break this do you, but Hydra's better than ZerO.

(So is Light, probably, for that matter, even if he doesn't have the Starleague bling, but that's really neither here nor there.)


No, neither Hydra nor Light are better than Zero, just more consistent. Zero's peak skill is way above those two's.


Maybe, but I put a lot of value on consistency.

Consistently mediocre in ZvT. Zero is way better in ZvT, slightly worse in ZvZ, and Zero's ZvP has been tested and proven far more than Hydra's ZvP.

Zero is S-class. Hydra is merely A-class (except in ZvZ maybe).
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
July 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#1742
Zero kinda started the trend of pseudo busting
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 23 2011 06:53 GMT
#1743
On July 23 2011 15:47 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:41 ketomai wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:40 King[Neikos] wrote:
god this is becoming so lame, i wonder if shine intended this to happen when he started using the hydra burst


Wtf why are people attributing old builds to new players now T.T! Hydra bust and +1 zeal are some of the most well known, executed, explored builds in the book.

True but for years and years "hydra bust" meant 2 hatch allin, sometimes 4 but most often 2.
The newish trend of going 3 hat either allin or macro started with zero > stork I think.
Yes it had been done before, the first time I can remember (the fake version I mean) is
gorush > bisu on python which spawned a mini trend of people doing variations of it but this time it has become a staple build and I really think that can be attributed to zero.

when was zero/stork?

3 hatch has been around for a while.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 23 2011 06:54 GMT
#1744
On July 23 2011 15:47 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:41 ketomai wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:40 King[Neikos] wrote:
god this is becoming so lame, i wonder if shine intended this to happen when he started using the hydra burst


Wtf why are people attributing old builds to new players now T.T! Hydra bust and +1 zeal are some of the most well known, executed, explored builds in the book.

True but for years and years "hydra bust" meant 2 hatch allin, sometimes 4 but most often 2.
The newish trend of going 3 hat either allin or macro started with zero > stork I think.
Yes it had been done before, the first time I can remember (the fake version I mean) is
gorush > bisu on python which spawned a mini trend of people doing variations of it but this time it has become a staple build and I really think that can be attributed to zero.


Savior had a 3 hat hydra build...
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
July 23 2011 06:54 GMT
#1745
On July 23 2011 15:53 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:49 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:47 pylonsalad wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
CJ doesn't have anyone of Zero's caliber so they're fucked.


As a Woongjin fan I hate to break this do you, but Hydra's better than ZerO.

(So is Light, probably, for that matter, even if he doesn't have the Starleague bling, but that's really neither here nor there.)


No, neither Hydra nor Light are better than Zero, just more consistent. Zero's peak skill is way above those two's.


Maybe, but I put a lot of value on consistency.

Consistently mediocre in ZvT. Zero is way better in ZvT, slightly worse in ZvZ, and Zero's ZvP has been tested and proven far more than Hydra's ZvP.

Zero is S-class. Hydra is merely A-class (except in ZvZ maybe).


zero is s-class?! o_O
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 23 2011 06:54 GMT
#1746
stats taking his 2nd gas now
Hydra throwing up a spire after his Lair finished

lings finally dismantle the scouting probe
stargate warped in, the core is spinning, adun warping in

hydra getting his 4th hatch at the nat, 5th hatch at the 3rd
first sair is out, kills an overlord

hydra den in the making

Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
July 23 2011 06:55 GMT
#1747
On July 23 2011 15:54 integral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:53 DarkMatter_ wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:49 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:47 pylonsalad wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
CJ doesn't have anyone of Zero's caliber so they're fucked.


As a Woongjin fan I hate to break this do you, but Hydra's better than ZerO.

(So is Light, probably, for that matter, even if he doesn't have the Starleague bling, but that's really neither here nor there.)


No, neither Hydra nor Light are better than Zero, just more consistent. Zero's peak skill is way above those two's.


Maybe, but I put a lot of value on consistency.

Consistently mediocre in ZvT. Zero is way better in ZvT, slightly worse in ZvZ, and Zero's ZvP has been tested and proven far more than Hydra's ZvP.

Zero is S-class. Hydra is merely A-class (except in ZvZ maybe).


zero is s-class?! o_O
i would say so too, or maybe just below. but his better than all the other A-class
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
July 23 2011 06:55 GMT
#1748
u dun nid gateways stats?
pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
July 23 2011 06:55 GMT
#1749
I think it was July who made the hydrabust so popular when he used to go toe-to-toe with Bisu.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 23 2011 06:55 GMT
#1750
On July 23 2011 15:53 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:49 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:47 pylonsalad wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 VGhost wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:39 DarkMatter_ wrote:
CJ doesn't have anyone of Zero's caliber so they're fucked.


As a Woongjin fan I hate to break this do you, but Hydra's better than ZerO.

(So is Light, probably, for that matter, even if he doesn't have the Starleague bling, but that's really neither here nor there.)


No, neither Hydra nor Light are better than Zero, just more consistent. Zero's peak skill is way above those two's.


Maybe, but I put a lot of value on consistency.

Consistently mediocre in ZvT. Zero is way better in ZvT, slightly worse in ZvZ, and Zero's ZvP has been tested and proven far more than Hydra's ZvP.

Zero is S-class. Hydra is merely A-class (except in ZvZ maybe).

the only thing zero is sclass in is megaman.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1751
cannon warped in the main for some extra security, scourge flying around looking for sairs to run into

templar archive warping in
hydra making some mutas

meanwhile some +1 slowlots move out
2nd gateway being warped in
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1752
On July 23 2011 15:53 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 15:47 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:41 ketomai wrote:
On July 23 2011 15:40 King[Neikos] wrote:
god this is becoming so lame, i wonder if shine intended this to happen when he started using the hydra burst


Wtf why are people attributing old builds to new players now T.T! Hydra bust and +1 zeal are some of the most well known, executed, explored builds in the book.

True but for years and years "hydra bust" meant 2 hatch allin, sometimes 4 but most often 2.
The newish trend of going 3 hat either allin or macro started with zero > stork I think.
Yes it had been done before, the first time I can remember (the fake version I mean) is
gorush > bisu on python which spawned a mini trend of people doing variations of it but this time it has become a staple build and I really think that can be attributed to zero.

when was zero/stork?

3 hatch has been around for a while.


Yea, it's actually more common that 2 hat hydra as well...I'm pretty sure the main variation of hydra bust has always been 3 hatch because you can hide it better.

The fake has been done before but it didn't really catch on a lot back then, but on walled maps like these I can see why it's catching on.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3621 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1753
Well Stats hasn't lost to a hydra bust this time. Yet, at least. (Actually I guess when you get past five minutes or so if you lose to pure hydras it's not so much a "hydra bust" as a "Protoss epic fuck-up".)
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1754
Fuck me sideways Hydra.......
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1755
LOL
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1756
FUCK YES STATS
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1757
ffs
integral
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3161 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1758
FUCK YES

in other news hydra is not jaedong
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1759
shouldve just hydra busted yo, hydra
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
July 23 2011 06:56 GMT
#1760
hydra doesn't know how to make hydras!!!
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