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hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 16 2011 06:31 GMT
#1041
On July 16 2011 15:29 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:28 hellbound wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:26 hellbound wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:25 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:24 hellbound wrote:
Why the hell didn't he try to take the 3 o clock -__-

Soulkey expanding to 3 would have been a terrible idea... you want to expand away from the T

Yeah expanding to an expo with 2 entrances worked out just perfect.

Soulkey was dead the second he lost the expo he NEEDED to take which was 11... 3 o clock is a terrible place to try and take a base and he would have lost even faster..


Well apparently Soulkey does not agree with you, since he didn't gg. I'l take his word over yours.

He also didn't agree with you by not taking 3 o clock -___________-


Yep. That is true. 1-1
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 16 2011 06:31 GMT
#1042
On July 16 2011 15:29 tbrown47 wrote:
I thought coaches had to make a list of who was going out on what map before the match started all except ace match? So a coach can't just change his lineup mid game... but maybe I'm wrong.

You are. The lineups are not locked in until they hand the KeSPA ref their next player right before the match (who in turn gives it to the opposing team).
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 16 2011 06:31 GMT
#1043
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
July 16 2011 06:31 GMT
#1044
On July 16 2011 15:31 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.

Except when he loses.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1045
On July 16 2011 15:31 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.

JD has had his number recently though. Would be interesting to see them play a Bo5 right now.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1046
On July 16 2011 15:30 salito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:29 VGhost wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.

Are you seriously proposing that he put his 3rd at a mineral only?


Is the 3rd seriously a min-only on CB?

*checks*

Oh, I guess it is. I'm an idiot. Well, at 12 right away then. Or don't try to rush a 3rd you can't hold. Or something.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1047
On July 16 2011 15:29 tbrown47 wrote:
I thought coaches had to make a list of who was going out on what map before the match started all except ace match? So a coach can't just change his lineup mid game... but maybe I'm wrong.


Part of the reform post cheating was that coaches don't have to announce lineups before the match. However, from what I've inferred from interviews (where players still say stuff like "i was picked to play on map x"), most coaches still pick their whole lineup in advance. Still, this is informal, and they have the right to change things on the fly if needed.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1048
On July 16 2011 15:29 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.

well on Circuit Breaker defending the nearby gas third is actually harder than defending another main due to the reverse ramps and multiple entry points.. on a different map like NBR that would be relevant
Writerptrk
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1049
Well, not every zerg tries to take their 3rd (gas) right after when mutalisks spawn, especially after 3 hatch.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1050
Ugh time to watch Free fail
웅진 멘쓰즈
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 16 2011 06:32 GMT
#1051
On July 16 2011 15:32 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:30 salito wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:29 VGhost wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.

Are you seriously proposing that he put his 3rd at a mineral only?


Is the 3rd seriously a min-only on CB?

*checks*

Oh, I guess it is. I'm an idiot. Well, at 12 right away then. Or don't try to rush a 3rd you can't hold. Or something.

12 way worse than another main in every way possible.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 16 2011 06:33 GMT
#1052
Soulkey should have absorbed Kwanro's early game before he left.

<.<

>.>
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 16 2011 06:33 GMT
#1053
On July 16 2011 15:31 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.


That fast +1 third denial thing is meant to counter standard play, I find it hard to understand why everyone insists on doing 3hat muta anyway, is there no other viable build at all?
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#1054
On July 16 2011 15:33 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:31 Elroi wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.


That fast +1 third denial thing is meant to counter standard play, I find it hard to understand why everyone insists on doing 3hat muta anyway, is there no other viable build at all?

Lurkers first? That wouldn't work very well.
웅진 멘쓰즈
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#1055
Action vs free
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#1056
On July 16 2011 15:32 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:32 VGhost wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:30 salito wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:29 VGhost wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.

Are you seriously proposing that he put his 3rd at a mineral only?


Is the 3rd seriously a min-only on CB?

*checks*

Oh, I guess it is. I'm an idiot. Well, at 12 right away then. Or don't try to rush a 3rd you can't hold. Or something.

12 way worse than another main in every way possible.


No, 12 is closer than any other main, it's worse, but not in every way possible.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#1057
On July 16 2011 15:33 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:31 Elroi wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.


That fast +1 third denial thing is meant to counter standard play, I find it hard to understand why everyone insists on doing 3hat muta anyway, is there no other viable build at all?


fast guardians
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
July 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#1058
Flash figured out that some zergs don't have good enough micro to stop 5 rax pressure, even if they know it's coming.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#1059
The problem though for woongjin is that he stomps terrans as easily. If they don't have some very strong new build prepared I would try sending a protoss against him. Zero, SK etc is no way near Jaedong, they won't be able to take down Flash when he is prepared for them, atleast that is my opinion.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 16 2011 06:35 GMT
#1060
On July 16 2011 15:33 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:31 Elroi wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:26 Holgerius wrote:
Flash has Soulkey completely figured out. All games I remember with them has been extremely one-sided (remember the game where Flash took the entire map?) after sick aggression by Flash.

More like he has got tvz figured out. His wins in this mu seem completely automatic.


That fast +1 third denial thing is meant to counter standard play, I find it hard to understand why everyone insists on doing 3hat muta anyway, is there no other viable build at all?

3 Hatch Muta is by far the best build. You just gotta make adaptions within the build.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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