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[SPL] PO,KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars Day 1 - Page 52

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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 16 2011 06:27 GMT
#1021
Yay, Flash.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 16 2011 06:27 GMT
#1022
On July 16 2011 15:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:24 Zona wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:23 doothegee wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:22 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:21 doothegee wrote:
Why was Soulkey sent out here -_-

Presumably Flash was expected to play in one of the first four sets.

That has nothing to do with it, though. With CB and NBR left, it was obvious which map Flash was going to come out on.

Well it's already pretty bad having to prepare for one map without knowing who your opponent will be. You want Woongjin players to prepare for multiple maps so that the coach can make a last minute swap?

I don't think you can swap either way right? Don't teams have to send the lineup to Kespa before the match?

Nope, coaches hand a slip of paper to their respective ref just before the set.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
July 16 2011 06:27 GMT
#1023
On July 16 2011 15:24 Zona wrote:
You want Woongjin players to prepare for multiple maps so that the coach can make a last minute swap?


because soulkey's most recent game wasn't on NBR and didn't play three different maps vs khan, obviously
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19343 Posts
July 16 2011 06:27 GMT
#1024
My gf just told me I can hang Bisu posters in our house! I'm in tears.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1025
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.
Writerptrk
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1026
On July 16 2011 15:27 Elroi wrote:
I don't know why people keep hyping soulkey so much. Whenever I see him play I haven't been impressed, but I haven't seen all his games.

Go watch his games against Bogus and against Fantasy (both of them). Also against Leta on Beltway.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1027
On July 16 2011 15:27 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:24 Zona wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:23 doothegee wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:22 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:21 doothegee wrote:
Why was Soulkey sent out here -_-

Presumably Flash was expected to play in one of the first four sets.

That has nothing to do with it, though. With CB and NBR left, it was obvious which map Flash was going to come out on.

Well it's already pretty bad having to prepare for one map without knowing who your opponent will be. You want Woongjin players to prepare for multiple maps so that the coach can make a last minute swap?

Yes? Besides, I don't think SK practicing for a ZvZ or ZvP on Bloody Ridge would have been too much work. All Woongjin needed to do was protect Zero and Soulkey from Flash by sending them on the maps that Flash had no chance of coming out on, and why they didn't see Bloody Ridge as one of those maps is beyond me.

What's done is done, though. Our season lies in the hands of Free T_T

Hey, there's still day 2 and 3
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1028
I don't get why people get so worked up about what map dudes play on. They weren't sure what map Flash was gonna play before the series started and they're not gonna take soulkey off of the only map he's practiced for when Flash is gonna definitely play on it AFTER you see the first four players go out. You don't split your practice on your best players for multiple maps just in the hope of changing things up right before the game starts.
Remember Violet.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1029
On July 16 2011 15:27 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:26 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:24 Zona wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:23 doothegee wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:22 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:21 doothegee wrote:
Why was Soulkey sent out here -_-

Presumably Flash was expected to play in one of the first four sets.

That has nothing to do with it, though. With CB and NBR left, it was obvious which map Flash was going to come out on.

Well it's already pretty bad having to prepare for one map without knowing who your opponent will be. You want Woongjin players to prepare for multiple maps so that the coach can make a last minute swap?

I don't think you can swap either way right? Don't teams have to send the lineup to Kespa before the match?

Nope, coaches hand a slip of paper to their respective ref just before the set.


Ooh, I didnt know that, For some reason I also thought they were all prepicked. Pretty cool. :D:D
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 06:30:12
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1030
On July 16 2011 15:26 WWJDD wrote:
When Flash moved his marines out, he should have backstabbed the nat. That was his only shot. Not a good one, but his only shot. He couldn't have saved the third anyway.


I'ma call bullshit. Did you see flash continuously streaming marines to back up that attack. If he'd just gone for a backstab, the attacl would have died to reinforcements without accomplishing anything. Better to try and save the 3rd.

Anyway, Gj flash. if this is you playing while convalescing, i like your odds in the OSL. KT FIGHTING!
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 16 2011 06:28 GMT
#1031
On July 16 2011 15:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:26 hellbound wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:25 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:24 hellbound wrote:
Why the hell didn't he try to take the 3 o clock -__-

Soulkey expanding to 3 would have been a terrible idea... you want to expand away from the T

Yeah expanding to an expo with 2 entrances worked out just perfect.

Soulkey was dead the second he lost the expo he NEEDED to take which was 11... 3 o clock is a terrible place to try and take a base and he would have lost even faster..


Well apparently Soulkey does not agree with you, since he didn't gg. I'l take his word over yours.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1032
On July 16 2011 15:27 Elroi wrote:
I don't know why people keep hyping soulkey so much. Whenever I see him play I haven't been impressed, but I haven't seen all his games.

He has sick late-game management, especially vs mech. Watch him vs Fantasy for instance. Flash just crippled him before they got to that stage.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1033
On July 16 2011 15:27 BisuDagger wrote:
My gf just told me I can hang Bisu posters in our house! I'm in tears.


irrelevant to the LR but,cool I guess.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1034
On July 16 2011 15:28 deafhobbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:26 WWJDD wrote:
When Flash moved his marines out, he should have backstabbed the nat. That was his only shot. Not a good one, but his only shot. He couldn't have saved the third anyway.


I'ma call bullshit. Did you see flash continuously streaming marines to back up that attack. If he'd just gone for a backstab, the reinforcements would have died without accomplishing anything. Better to try and save the 3rd.

Anyway, Gj flash. if this is you playing while convalescing, i like your odds in the OSL. KT FIGHTING!

It would have worked if he didn't lose an entire control group of lings at Flash's choke a few seconds earlier.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1035
On July 16 2011 15:13 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On July 16 2011 15:12 moopie wrote:
Terribad muta control from soulkey..


really?I didn't think it was all that bad.

He lost mutas pretty much every time he tried to engage, it was horrible. Not only did they not manage to keep the bio at bay, but by the time flash made it to 10.5 so many have died (and the rest wounded) that they couldn't do anything. It cost him the game :>
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3618 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1036
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7871 Posts
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1037
On July 16 2011 15:28 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:27 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:26 hellbound wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:25 Vasoline73 wrote:
On July 16 2011 15:24 hellbound wrote:
Why the hell didn't he try to take the 3 o clock -__-

Soulkey expanding to 3 would have been a terrible idea... you want to expand away from the T

Yeah expanding to an expo with 2 entrances worked out just perfect.

Soulkey was dead the second he lost the expo he NEEDED to take which was 11... 3 o clock is a terrible place to try and take a base and he would have lost even faster..


Well apparently Soulkey does not agree with you, since he didn't gg. I'l take his word over yours.

He also didn't agree with you by not taking 3 o clock -___________-
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-16 06:30:57
July 16 2011 06:29 GMT
#1038
I thought coaches had to make a list of who was going out on what map before the match started all except ace match? So a coach can't just change his lineup mid game... but maybe I'm wrong.

edit: nvm saw answer in thread and I'm wrong.
just here
salito
Profile Joined May 2010
1647 Posts
July 16 2011 06:30 GMT
#1039
On July 16 2011 15:29 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.

Are you seriously proposing that he put his 3rd at a mineral only?
Nature moves in the shortest way possible.
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 16 2011 06:30 GMT
#1040
On July 16 2011 15:29 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2011 15:28 ArvickHero wrote:
Zergs need to adopt what Hero[join] did in the MST, by placing both the Spire and the Den at the same time to get Lurkers out fast enough to block the +1 5rax rush.


I also think Zergs have gotten way too used to getting the extra main expo "free". If Soulkey's 3rd had actually been at his 3rd, it would have been much easier to protect.

Didn't really matter in this game, though. He basically had mutalisks to try and stall and he failed in epic fashion.
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