• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:46
CET 14:46
KST 22:46
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion SCHNAIL now supports Remastered [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 Star Con San Diego 2026 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread R I P Patrick Stewart Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8812 users

[SPL] PO,KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars Day 1 - Page 83

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 81 82 83
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#1641
On July 17 2011 07:14 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:08 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:32 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:26 Eun_Star wrote:
Fantastic play from zero. There was no way Flash even had a chance in that game. Zero did make a poor decision during the drop (could have ended the game there), but Flash was already incredibly behind anyway. Great job Zero!


Yeah that drop left me with a itchy feeling afterward. ZerO didn't manage his Lurkers properly (could have destroyed the academy at top) and forgot to burrow them after unburrowing, he also lost 2 overloard to flash's rines. But I REALLY loved that move by ZerO when flash got blocked to entered the other half of the map by Lurker/Ling/Dark Swarm and tried to entered through another bridge and bam ZerO drops Lurker/Defilers and block that entrance as well. That move made me scream "holy shit".


IMHO, strategy wise, Flash's army was not blocked by Zero. He put them there on purpose. He was trying to out multi task Zero by hoping to catch any mistakes in Zero's push. Flash can "A click" lurkers very fast, we've seen this many times. But unfortunately for Flash, Zero's front push was flawless.


Yeah try to A-click on Lurkers under swarm with marines.....


When they unborrowed and move. That's when you A click lurkers. I didn't explain because I thought everyone knew ^.^
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 16 2011 22:44 GMT
#1642
On July 17 2011 07:27 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:14 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:32 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:26 Eun_Star wrote:
Fantastic play from zero. There was no way Flash even had a chance in that game. Zero did make a poor decision during the drop (could have ended the game there), but Flash was already incredibly behind anyway. Great job Zero!


Yeah that drop left me with a itchy feeling afterward. ZerO didn't manage his Lurkers properly (could have destroyed the academy at top) and forgot to burrow them after unburrowing, he also lost 2 overloard to flash's rines. But I REALLY loved that move by ZerO when flash got blocked to entered the other half of the map by Lurker/Ling/Dark Swarm and tried to entered through another bridge and bam ZerO drops Lurker/Defilers and block that entrance as well. That move made me scream "holy shit".


IMHO, strategy wise, Flash's army was not blocked by Zero. He put them there on purpose. He was trying to out multi task Zero by hoping to catch any mistakes in Zero's push. Flash can "A click" lurkers very fast, we've seen this many times. But unfortunately for Flash, Zero's front push was flawless.


Yeah try to A-click on Lurkers under swarm with marines.....


When they unborrowed and move. That's when you A click lurkers. I didn't explain because I thought everyone knew ^.^


Well ZerO's Lurker were under dark swarm. I explained it and I thought you would have known.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
July 16 2011 22:50 GMT
#1643
Oh well can't win them all...
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 16 2011 23:17 GMT
#1644
On July 17 2011 07:44 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:27 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:14 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:32 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:26 Eun_Star wrote:
Fantastic play from zero. There was no way Flash even had a chance in that game. Zero did make a poor decision during the drop (could have ended the game there), but Flash was already incredibly behind anyway. Great job Zero!


Yeah that drop left me with a itchy feeling afterward. ZerO didn't manage his Lurkers properly (could have destroyed the academy at top) and forgot to burrow them after unburrowing, he also lost 2 overloard to flash's rines. But I REALLY loved that move by ZerO when flash got blocked to entered the other half of the map by Lurker/Ling/Dark Swarm and tried to entered through another bridge and bam ZerO drops Lurker/Defilers and block that entrance as well. That move made me scream "holy shit".


IMHO, strategy wise, Flash's army was not blocked by Zero. He put them there on purpose. He was trying to out multi task Zero by hoping to catch any mistakes in Zero's push. Flash can "A click" lurkers very fast, we've seen this many times. But unfortunately for Flash, Zero's front push was flawless.


Yeah try to A-click on Lurkers under swarm with marines.....


When they unborrowed and move. That's when you A click lurkers. I didn't explain because I thought everyone knew ^.^


Well ZerO's Lurker were under dark swarm. I explained it and I thought you would have known.


^^ ok. Thanks
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 00:27:16
July 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#1645
3hrs 50 minutes until day2, let's get the next LR thread rocking!!!!!
I updated Yeti's LR so someone who is available can take this since I wont be able to. So everyone thank yeti!

[image loading]
Woongjin Stars vs KT Rolster
Day 2
Shinhan Bank Proleague 2010-'11, Postseason week 2
Saturday, July 17, 2011 13:00 KST (04:00 GMT (+00:00))


[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]

Predictions/Hype
+ Show Spoiler +



[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +

KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars
Set 1: << Circuit Breaker >>
Set 2: << New Empire of the Sun >>
Set 3: << Icarus >>
Set 4: << New Bloody Ridge >>
+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +
Set 5: << Fortress SE >>

+ Show Spoiler [ Set 6] +
Set 6: << La Mancha >>

+ Show Spoiler [ Set 7] +
Set 7: << Neo Aztec >>


+ Show Spoiler [Overall] +

KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars
Set 1: << Circuit Breaker >>
Set 2: << New Empire of the Sun >>
Set 3: << Icarus >>
Set 4: << New Bloody Ridge >>
Set 5: << Fortress SE >>
Set 6: << La Mancha >>
Set 7: << Neo Aztec >>

«[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Spoiler-Free] +

KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars
+ Show Spoiler [Set 1] +
Set 1: << Circuit Breaker >>

+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +
Set 2: << New Empire of the Sun >>

+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +
Set 3: << Icarus >>

+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +
Set 4: << New Bloody Ridge >>

+ Show Spoiler [Set 5] +
Set 5: << Fortress SE >>

+ Show Spoiler [Set 6] +
Set 6: << La Mancha >>

+ Show Spoiler [Set 7] +
Set 7: << Neo Aztec >>


+ Show Spoiler [Overall] +

KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars
Set 1: << Circuit Breaker >>
Set 2: << New Empire of the Sun >>
Set 3: << Icarus >>
Set 4: << New Bloody Ridge >>
Set 5: << Fortress SE >>
Set 6: << La Mancha >>
Set 7: << Neo Aztec >>
KT Rolster 0:0 Woongjin Stars


[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +
Unplayed Games Will Be Given Random Rating
Set 1: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +

Set 2: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +

Set 3: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +

Set 4: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +

Set 5: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +

Set 6: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +

Set 7: ☆☆☆☆★
+ Show Spoiler [poll] +


[image loading]

[image loading]

ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 17 2011 00:24 GMT
#1646
After thinking again about this game it seems be obvious that Zero's build countered Flash 5 +1 opening really well.

Flash responded correctly once he scouted lurkers. With delayed tech due to his opening he wanted to slowed down lurkers and buy enough time to get tech. But the stop lurkers screwed him. Once he lost the map control he was doomed. Zero took 3rd and got defilers while Flash had to invest in tanks slowing down his first vessel even more. Once defilers were out the game was decided. Without map control and enough vessels nothing could stop Zero from running over Flash with swarms.

To sum up, an amazing play by Zero. And Flash really didn't do anything wrong except of getting short end of stick with his build and then running into hold lurkers. But this is a result of Zero's great play rather than Flash being sloppy.

I hope today Flash will bring some interesting builds to turn the table.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8197 Posts
July 17 2011 00:33 GMT
#1647
I have a pretty meh feeling about day 2 for KT but hopefully they get some good match ups and pull through. Feel like CH should have been ace for day 1 but that has passed. KT fighting!
almond
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
115 Posts
July 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#1648
It actually was "sloppy" play on Flash's part. I am pretty much certain his marines were in sight of the burrowing lurkers. But that's what happens when you play so aggressive without vessels; look away from one second and it could cost you the game.
His defense to the drops were phenomenal though.Pretty sure he could have came back vs weaker zergs.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
July 17 2011 01:42 GMT
#1649
Yeah a lot of guys miss that.. marine medic is brutally hard to control vs lurks without detectors
Aah thats the stuff..
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#1650
14cc incoming :D
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 17 2011 03:17 GMT
#1651
Just watched every game of this
Holy crap what an entertaining match
brood war for life, brood war forever
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
July 17 2011 04:07 GMT
#1652
i love zero's smug when he dismantled flash.
yoyo!
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
July 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#1653
On July 16 2011 16:38 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
I'm happy for Woongjin for winning (FUCK YEAH KIM MYUNG WOON), but all I want to know is how the hell did Free suddenly decide to win a clutch match? Seriously, the one time we actually desperately 100% need him, he suddenly decides to win. But when he's not playing with anything on the line he just gets blown apart (proxy 2 gate underneath an overlord).


Well I wouldn't say this was the one time (think back to Stars vs Khan day 1 a week ago). And he lost then, so not exactly as clutch as we'd hope :c

On July 16 2011 03:39 Doughboy wrote:
I'm somewhat nervous about relying on Really or free to give us the 4th win( assuming one of the Woongjin Chimera isn't sniped). I'm going to say Stars take it 4-2 day 1 and 4-3 day 2 ( with Light > Flash in ace)


Looks like I'm eating most of these words because 2 of the big three were taken out and BOTH Really and free won. Good job to Stars and ZerO, too bad I couldn't watch yesterday's match, hopefully I won't jinx today's by watching *knocks on wood*
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Noel Vermillion
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 06:09:15
July 17 2011 06:08 GMT
#1654
KT is probably angry that they didn't win
FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu, Free, TossGirl, Action, Stats Always BW FTW!
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 06:38:10
July 17 2011 06:37 GMT
#1655
ooops
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
July 17 2011 09:41 GMT
#1656
Where was Zero with smart builds in the finals?
You shouldn't blame map, it was easy to predict Zero as ace player, so I believe it was lack of preparation from the Flash side.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 21 2011 07:21 GMT
#1657
On July 16 2011 16:38 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
I'm happy for Woongjin for winning (FUCK YEAH KIM MYUNG WOON), but all I want to know is how the hell did Free suddenly decide to win a clutch match? Seriously, the one time we actually desperately 100% need him, he suddenly decides to win. But when he's not playing with anything on the line he just gets blown apart (proxy 2 gate underneath an overlord).

+ Show Spoiler +
You jinxed it.
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Prev 1 81 82 83
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
22:00
Epic.LAN 49 Group Stage
Liquipedia
GSL
21:00
GSL CK 6
IntoTheiNu 897
SHIN 119
CranKy Ducklings SOOP78
Maru 69
Zoun (SOOP) 58
herO (SOOP) 44
Solar (SOOP)41
ByuN (SOOP) 29
Rogue 24
Rex22
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko476
LamboSC2 173
SHIN 119
MaxPax 103
Maru 69
Zoun (SOOP) 58
herO (SOOP) 44
Solar (SOOP) 41
ByuN (SOOP) 29
Rogue 24
Rex 22
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 2296
Jaedong 1602
Horang2 936
EffOrt 526
Soma 467
Light 454
BeSt 442
FanTaSy 328
Snow 246
actioN 226
[ Show more ]
Mini 222
ggaemo 185
ZerO 131
Rush 131
Mind 127
Hyuk 107
hero 69
Hyun 59
Sea.KH 57
Barracks 55
Mong 53
Classic 50
Yoon 48
HiyA 35
ToSsGirL 33
sSak 29
soO 24
Aegong 23
Shinee 23
910 22
Sharp 19
Terrorterran 19
ajuk12(nOOB) 18
Bishop 16
Free 16
JYJ 15
Rock 12
zelot 12
Noble 11
Icarus 5
Creator 1
Dota 2
Gorgc15080
syndereN192
Fuzer 141
League of Legends
Reynor85
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1583
kRYSTAL_1104
Other Games
singsing1716
B2W.Neo1162
hiko946
Mlord353
crisheroes230
DeMusliM201
ArmadaUGS141
QueenE19
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL41620
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 29
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
3h 14m
OSC
8h 14m
Replay Cast
9h 14m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 14m
WardiTV Invitational
22h 14m
Epic.LAN
23h 14m
IPSL
1d 2h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 4h
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Ultimate Battle
2 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
3 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.