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mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#1641
On July 17 2011 07:14 Xiphos wrote:
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On July 17 2011 07:08 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:32 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:26 Eun_Star wrote:
Fantastic play from zero. There was no way Flash even had a chance in that game. Zero did make a poor decision during the drop (could have ended the game there), but Flash was already incredibly behind anyway. Great job Zero!


Yeah that drop left me with a itchy feeling afterward. ZerO didn't manage his Lurkers properly (could have destroyed the academy at top) and forgot to burrow them after unburrowing, he also lost 2 overloard to flash's rines. But I REALLY loved that move by ZerO when flash got blocked to entered the other half of the map by Lurker/Ling/Dark Swarm and tried to entered through another bridge and bam ZerO drops Lurker/Defilers and block that entrance as well. That move made me scream "holy shit".


IMHO, strategy wise, Flash's army was not blocked by Zero. He put them there on purpose. He was trying to out multi task Zero by hoping to catch any mistakes in Zero's push. Flash can "A click" lurkers very fast, we've seen this many times. But unfortunately for Flash, Zero's front push was flawless.


Yeah try to A-click on Lurkers under swarm with marines.....


When they unborrowed and move. That's when you A click lurkers. I didn't explain because I thought everyone knew ^.^
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 16 2011 22:44 GMT
#1642
On July 17 2011 07:27 mmdmmd wrote:
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On July 17 2011 07:14 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:32 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:26 Eun_Star wrote:
Fantastic play from zero. There was no way Flash even had a chance in that game. Zero did make a poor decision during the drop (could have ended the game there), but Flash was already incredibly behind anyway. Great job Zero!


Yeah that drop left me with a itchy feeling afterward. ZerO didn't manage his Lurkers properly (could have destroyed the academy at top) and forgot to burrow them after unburrowing, he also lost 2 overloard to flash's rines. But I REALLY loved that move by ZerO when flash got blocked to entered the other half of the map by Lurker/Ling/Dark Swarm and tried to entered through another bridge and bam ZerO drops Lurker/Defilers and block that entrance as well. That move made me scream "holy shit".


IMHO, strategy wise, Flash's army was not blocked by Zero. He put them there on purpose. He was trying to out multi task Zero by hoping to catch any mistakes in Zero's push. Flash can "A click" lurkers very fast, we've seen this many times. But unfortunately for Flash, Zero's front push was flawless.


Yeah try to A-click on Lurkers under swarm with marines.....


When they unborrowed and move. That's when you A click lurkers. I didn't explain because I thought everyone knew ^.^


Well ZerO's Lurker were under dark swarm. I explained it and I thought you would have known.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
July 16 2011 22:50 GMT
#1643
Oh well can't win them all...
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 16 2011 23:17 GMT
#1644
On July 17 2011 07:44 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2011 07:27 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:14 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 07:08 mmdmmd wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:32 Xiphos wrote:
On July 17 2011 05:26 Eun_Star wrote:
Fantastic play from zero. There was no way Flash even had a chance in that game. Zero did make a poor decision during the drop (could have ended the game there), but Flash was already incredibly behind anyway. Great job Zero!


Yeah that drop left me with a itchy feeling afterward. ZerO didn't manage his Lurkers properly (could have destroyed the academy at top) and forgot to burrow them after unburrowing, he also lost 2 overloard to flash's rines. But I REALLY loved that move by ZerO when flash got blocked to entered the other half of the map by Lurker/Ling/Dark Swarm and tried to entered through another bridge and bam ZerO drops Lurker/Defilers and block that entrance as well. That move made me scream "holy shit".


IMHO, strategy wise, Flash's army was not blocked by Zero. He put them there on purpose. He was trying to out multi task Zero by hoping to catch any mistakes in Zero's push. Flash can "A click" lurkers very fast, we've seen this many times. But unfortunately for Flash, Zero's front push was flawless.


Yeah try to A-click on Lurkers under swarm with marines.....


When they unborrowed and move. That's when you A click lurkers. I didn't explain because I thought everyone knew ^.^


Well ZerO's Lurker were under dark swarm. I explained it and I thought you would have known.


^^ ok. Thanks
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 00:27:16
July 17 2011 00:11 GMT
#1645
3hrs 50 minutes until day2, let's get the next LR thread rocking!!!!!
I updated Yeti's LR so someone who is available can take this since I wont be able to. So everyone thank yeti!

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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
July 17 2011 00:24 GMT
#1646
After thinking again about this game it seems be obvious that Zero's build countered Flash 5 +1 opening really well.

Flash responded correctly once he scouted lurkers. With delayed tech due to his opening he wanted to slowed down lurkers and buy enough time to get tech. But the stop lurkers screwed him. Once he lost the map control he was doomed. Zero took 3rd and got defilers while Flash had to invest in tanks slowing down his first vessel even more. Once defilers were out the game was decided. Without map control and enough vessels nothing could stop Zero from running over Flash with swarms.

To sum up, an amazing play by Zero. And Flash really didn't do anything wrong except of getting short end of stick with his build and then running into hold lurkers. But this is a result of Zero's great play rather than Flash being sloppy.

I hope today Flash will bring some interesting builds to turn the table.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8066 Posts
July 17 2011 00:33 GMT
#1647
I have a pretty meh feeling about day 2 for KT but hopefully they get some good match ups and pull through. Feel like CH should have been ace for day 1 but that has passed. KT fighting!
almond
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
115 Posts
July 17 2011 01:14 GMT
#1648
It actually was "sloppy" play on Flash's part. I am pretty much certain his marines were in sight of the burrowing lurkers. But that's what happens when you play so aggressive without vessels; look away from one second and it could cost you the game.
His defense to the drops were phenomenal though.Pretty sure he could have came back vs weaker zergs.
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
July 17 2011 01:42 GMT
#1649
Yeah a lot of guys miss that.. marine medic is brutally hard to control vs lurks without detectors
Aah thats the stuff..
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#1650
14cc incoming :D
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
July 17 2011 03:17 GMT
#1651
Just watched every game of this
Holy crap what an entertaining match
brood war for life, brood war forever
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
July 17 2011 04:07 GMT
#1652
i love zero's smug when he dismantled flash.
yoyo!
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
July 17 2011 04:12 GMT
#1653
On July 16 2011 16:38 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
I'm happy for Woongjin for winning (FUCK YEAH KIM MYUNG WOON), but all I want to know is how the hell did Free suddenly decide to win a clutch match? Seriously, the one time we actually desperately 100% need him, he suddenly decides to win. But when he's not playing with anything on the line he just gets blown apart (proxy 2 gate underneath an overlord).


Well I wouldn't say this was the one time (think back to Stars vs Khan day 1 a week ago). And he lost then, so not exactly as clutch as we'd hope :c

On July 16 2011 03:39 Doughboy wrote:
I'm somewhat nervous about relying on Really or free to give us the 4th win( assuming one of the Woongjin Chimera isn't sniped). I'm going to say Stars take it 4-2 day 1 and 4-3 day 2 ( with Light > Flash in ace)


Looks like I'm eating most of these words because 2 of the big three were taken out and BOTH Really and free won. Good job to Stars and ZerO, too bad I couldn't watch yesterday's match, hopefully I won't jinx today's by watching *knocks on wood*
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Noel Vermillion
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 06:09:15
July 17 2011 06:08 GMT
#1654
KT is probably angry that they didn't win
FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu, Free, TossGirl, Action, Stats Always BW FTW!
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-17 06:38:10
July 17 2011 06:37 GMT
#1655
ooops
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
July 17 2011 09:41 GMT
#1656
Where was Zero with smart builds in the finals?
You shouldn't blame map, it was easy to predict Zero as ace player, so I believe it was lack of preparation from the Flash side.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 21 2011 07:21 GMT
#1657
On July 16 2011 16:38 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
I'm happy for Woongjin for winning (FUCK YEAH KIM MYUNG WOON), but all I want to know is how the hell did Free suddenly decide to win a clutch match? Seriously, the one time we actually desperately 100% need him, he suddenly decides to win. But when he's not playing with anything on the line he just gets blown apart (proxy 2 gate underneath an overlord).

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"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
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