With your two wins today, you were the hero for your team. It has been a long time since I won twice in one day [T/N presumably he means under the SPL format?] I'm very glad to get two wins. Even though we fell behind 1:3, Crazy-Hydra and I bore the pressure, so I'm proud of us.
You were sent out on the brink of losing. Were you worried about the score? I didn't think very much about being down 1:3. Instead, I focused my attention on the upcoming game. I pulled my confidence together, and I told myself I wouldn't lose.
In game 5, you cut SCVs to create a timing attack. Recently, when Protoss face me, they always go a 1gate expand opening [T/N unsure], so my strategy was tailor-made to shut that down. I only wanted to get a small advantage with the opening, but it put me ahead by a lot.
In the ace match, you faced Hydra. Did you want to take revenge on the creator of the MSL Group of Death? I didn't think of it that way. Group selection is the right of the last champion, and I'll respect that. So I just considered this a faceoff against the outstanding player Hydra. This was actually our first meeting in an official match, so I knew it would be interesting. Making the Group of Death really is the right of the reigning champ, and there's no two ways about it.
Your team had only beaten hite in SWL; in SPL, you had only lost to them. I can't deny it. We have lost a lot. But today, in R5, we beat them, and we want to do the same in R6. Hite's a very strong team, and we made some mistakes today. But now we've won a series against them, so I hope we can use today as an opportunity to repair our weaknesses.
Recently, your schedule has been very busy. Are you having trouble keeping up with practice? Even if I didn't have any time to practice, I'd be very relaxed. To be honest, whenever I practice freely instead of focusing on just one match, my results are always better. Playing more games means the chance to get more wins.
Jaedong reached 200 wins in SPL. I thought before, for me to be the first to reach this mark would be tough, since Jaedong started playing long before me. But I hope I'll be the first to reach 300 wins. There was a time when our win counts were close, but recently the difference is about 10 wins. There's going to be an intense race to 300 wins when we near the mark. I hope everyone will celebrate when one of us obtains it.
Anything else? Coach Hery gave me a lot of help. For Terran players, he is the best coach. As the team with the strongest Terran line record, the coach must be #1 as well. I want to thank him very much, and since he is rarely noted in interviews, I must thank him extra. Also, our team's housing arrangements have changed, so I'm with the other Terrans. Barracks has recently been doing well, and Suny has immense potential too. To tell the truth, I used to be rather distant from Suny, but in the past few days we've become more close. I know he works very hard, and I hope he can improve his skill.
On May 02 2011 05:45 Sillylaughs wrote: Crazy-Hydra: I'm always confident in my ZvZ Stats: I want to thank YellOw You guys led your team to victory Stats: I tried my best as the first player to start the momentum for the team. I'm glad to have won. CH: I was able to win thanks to Flash/Stats.
You played BByong, a rookie terran. Stats: At first, I tried to play more relaxed because I had more experience than him, but the fact that he was a rookie made me a little nervous. It's very hard to figure out what rookie players would do.
You seemed to be a bit flustered after BByong held off your forces Stats: He held it off better than I had expected. I hoped to finish the game by countering right after the first engagement, but he managed to defend it quite well. I tried to stay focused on the game right away in the possibility that I could lose.
Your team was in a tight spot with a score of 1-3. Stats: It was quite disheartening to see [my team members] prepare so much for these matches and lose. But I'm glad that CH and Flash managed to win.
Crazy-Hydra: Your team was behind 2-3. Did you feel any pressure going into the match? CH: There was a lot of pressure behind me, but the coaches had helped me to control it.
You faced Hydra. Were you nervous? CH: To be honest, I didn't think that I would lose if I had to face a zerg. Sometimes I do get nervous [when facing a zerg], but I felt relaxed today and that helped me to win. Also, the game went in my favour, which helped to calm me down even more.
You seem to be filling your role in KT quite well with your 2nd (consecutive) win versus zerg. CH: I was the "ZvZ specialist" back in Woongjin. Having transferred to KT, I felt pressured to do well in all three matchups. However, the head coach (Jihoon Lee) told me that his biggest expectations was in my ZvZ - so I felt determined to do well in ZvZ no matter what. To be honest, I was a little disappointed because I wanted to play against other races. I don't believe that my skills in terms of other matchups have been tested, and I want to see where I stand against other players.
It seems like you're being sent out more often since your transfer. CH: It's still extremely competitive in KT to get sent out. Right now, I'm trying my best with the mindset that I've been given more chances before other zerg players in the team.
With the new change in the house, I heard you guys have divided the rooms by race. Stats: Right now I'm sharing a room with Reach and Coach Hery. Because I'm the youngest, they take a good care of me. It feels like I'm sharing a room with my older brother. CH: I shared a room with Stats when I first came to KT, but now I'm with other zerg players. Because we're all zerg, it's easier to discuss strategies amongst ourselves.
Any last words? Stats:YellOw gives me a lot of encouragement and advice all the time, which helps me a lot. I want to congratulate HoeJJa for the 3rd year anniversary of his debut, as well as thank the coaches. I hope the players that lost today feel better. CH: Today is HoeJJa's 3rd year since his debut, and I want to congratulate him. Also, we all agreed to each get a bicycle to exercise - I can't wait to get one and ride it with my teammates.
And it's nice to have LR threads up a little before the event, so I wouldn't worry about it. Just as long as you stay around to update results everything will be just fine
On May 01 2011 12:21 QuothTheRaven wrote: Looking forward to this!
And it's nice to have LR threads up a little before the event, so I wouldn't worry about it. Just as long as you stay around to update results everything will be just fine
Yup I will stay up to update since I made the thread. I stayed up last night too even though I had to work in 7 hrs after the event begins lol.
First Zealot out for Stats heading out. BByong with only 1 scv on gas Stats upgrading in the core 2 marines on BByong's ramp and stats' dragoon is coming out to kill scouting scv but let scv gets up ramp to see one pylon and one gateway and another dragoon pops out and kill the scv
Both players scouting the wrong direction, down towards 5 and 7 Factory starting for Bbyong, only 1 scv on gas First Chinlot heading towards Bbyong God Young Yo sign? Core is spinning for Chintoss and the zealot is blocked by 2 marines First goon is out aswell Goon almost kills the scout, the scout manages to not see very much. 4 marines at the fron of the nat protecting with a bunker PRobe sees a vulture heading across 12
Stats and Bbyong both taking their nat Vulture gets into the main of Stats 4 probe kills Goons hammering away at the bunker, firs tank pushes them back
scv transfered to the natural perfectly as the cc completes, BByong starts his academy. 2 tank out trying to micro against 2 dragoon but stats back off and now have a shuttle at his main and reaver tech.
Two tanks, 2 facts Acadamy 1/2 way complete God sign... First shuttle out for Chintoss, and a robotics right at his nat entrance 3 tanks, no siege yet...
Chin blocking his nat, with obs and robotics First reaver out Theres a scv moving across 12, sights teh shuttle CC starting at the main, ebay not complete 3 kills 2nd one is a dud Seige only starting now I believe Chin taking 9, but a vulture spots it
Forge beginning warp in Shuttle pulls bacvk Single vulture slips through the simcity Citadel is up, forge is spinning 3 or 4 kills for that vulture Both players have their 3rd up and running
Chin expanding again to 7, vulture spots a shuttle and goon, not sure abuout the probe 4 facts and an armory almost complete Archives and stargate warping
Stats starts his 4th at the bottom natural and cleared some more mines at the middle of the map BByong starts 2 more fact to make it 4 Templar archives warping in now LOTS OF SCV RALLIED TO THE TURRET ON TOP AND AFKING
Starport Probes maynarding to 7, get slaughtered Arbiter Tribunal warping 7 facts Were those all just idle scvs? Can't get a count on Stat's gateways Bbyong making another CC Lots of zealots
Bbyong pushing from 12? Or just securing it either or Chintoss is dropping zealotbombs Reaver gets a shot off that spashes 3 tanks, and is forced back Three marines running straight into the army Two armorys 2nd stargate Dropship out That was a crap load of mines defused with a zealot First arbiter
BByong turreting up his 4th incase of a recall Vultures raiding the bottom mineral only but there was only 1 probe there BByong moving out with lots of vultures and tanks + gol
Stats losing quite a few obs 6 gates at 7 Bboy is going to push 9 Loses an arbiter Huhe stasis, catches the vessel All of that army is gone He lost a reaver and quite a bit of his own army but he has the gates ti reinforce with Vessel goes down, and most of the stasised army does too 2 of 3 forges spinning Zealot bombs are vey successful
Chin is ripping through Bbyong Bbyong is attacking 7 nat Chin forces 3 to lift CC at 5, spotted Stasis on vessels and some tanks! Goons and zealots barreling down 12 and taking shots at the army 5 forced to lift Chintoss forced back, but forces lift at 12
Stats shuttle dropped 2 zealot and 1 dragoon at bottom right main but there wasn't much scv there
Engage at BByong's mineral only
Nice stasis on tank so now stats can attacking the miners and CC but he chooses to engage the army behind the stasis so that's a bad decision. BByong's 4th lift up and so is his bottom right main.
reading the LR from my phone and it seems stats is doing well!! being able to decimate a 4base Terran really is something. stats so clutch. go stats!!!
BByong clearing untis at his top middle base and lift down his CC, his CC at the middle right has no scv mining and 2 zealot is there attacking the refinery. Vultures comes to clear them up
Stats clearing mines in the middle again while vultures lays more mines
Zealots chasing vultures in the middle of the map with the cloak of arbiter.
There's one badly damage arbiter moving around but stops
STASIS on vessel at the 3rd of bbyong
STATS with bad recall dragoon at the 4th of BByong but nice storm kills tank.
3 is landed, I think 12 is too 5 kill arbiter... o.0 3 oclock CC goes down Recall at 12? No arbiter just sitting there Another stasis on the vessels RECALL AT12 Not very much, but enough for storms to slaughter 6 tanks clumped Shuttle just floating over 12 like its no big deal
Another recall at 12 More successful this time, forving left and taking aout the CC Both sides taking loses Huge army just sitting out infront for Bbyong So many idle probes for Stats 3 oclock has a CC not landed Bbyong with a HUGE army again Chintoss getting chased back WHITE PHOTOGRAPHER
I'm cheering for Stats as a toss player I'm cheering for Bbyong for that picture, and my LB, and my CJ fanboyism I haven't posted on the facebook yet, maybe thats why things are looking bleh
Lol, I like how Coach H.O.T-Forever was standing in front of Stats with a sheepish grin on his face for a moment and waiting for Stats to high-five him. He was all like, ":B"
Barracks also scouts the wrong direction but a later scouts so snow will get to him first Snow's core finishes and have a zealot moving out Barracks with one marine at his natural choke
One gate to core First zealot heading towards Barracks CC at nat starting 3 marines at the nat, Snow opting for early aggression I hope goon chasing around scv in base
Snow with zealot at the natural of Barrack and barracks with 3 marines and pulled 2 more scv snows backs off and scv in snow's base scouting out
Barracks builds a bunker and have 4 marines now, Zealot is still dancing in front of natural of Barracks.
SCV moves out of barrack's natural only to see that snow's dragoon is coming Probe is chasing the scv in the middle of the map lol Snow starts the nexus now.
Bunker getting build. 4 marines chasing that Snowlot First two goons are at the nat choke Snow going to start his nat Factory almost complete for Barracks
Dragoon kills the scv before it gets to Snow's natural 1 dragoon hitting the bunker with dragoon range being done so it's out of the bunker's range now 2 dragoon is pounding on it and there's 2 scv to repair
Goon starting to hammer away at the bunker 2nd fact and acadamy going up 1 gate robo Snow looking to expand again to 7? First tank is out lol at that rax landing
On May 01 2011 12:32 BLinD-RawR wrote: Some stuff to keep you pumped for BW in General. + Show Spoiler +
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Wow, this is actually pretty good. I just find it hilarious that Flash features in so many of these... as the losing player. but I don't blame the maker. Beating Flash in '10 was pretty much made your career.
Goons trying to snipe the first tank, gets repaired and seige is researched Robotics, and a shuttle out, but ebay is up CC getting built in base Probe chillikng down at 6, 2nd gate getting warped in 2 vultures trying to get in to the nat are forced back with a ramp block Kill some random probe in the middle, and Snow expanding Armory under construction Zealot and reaver take shots from tanks at the nat 3rd is up for Snow 4th fact complete
On May 01 2011 13:47 X10A wrote: NUUUUU I can't find Snow's Facebook anymore T.T
Snow had Facebook?
Which other progamers have fb accounts lol.
If FB is anywhere near as big in Korea as it is in the US, I'm going to guess most of them.
I have Hite Entus as a team on mine, as well as NaDa, Movie, Sea... Vutlures try and breach the 3rd, epic mines and only one vulture gets in Barracks moving out ...Leta, I've seen some banned players, Zeus and erm... Reaver takes out 4 vultures and a tank but is lost! Snow taking 6 Archives and tribunal are up and almost up Also there is a thread for Progaming Twitter and Facebook
Snow had a probe at 11, tons of vultures takeit out Vultures oging to brute force their way into the 3rd Nice goon block taking out several vultures Shuttle still flying around Barracks has his 3rd up and running Scarab takes out 4 rines and 2 vutlures 6 is warped in
Barracks moving out, engaes Snow, reaver gets a shot off on some tank Shuttle barely survives goliath fire Arbiter chilling over top the army Stasis? No goliaths taking shots at it
Barracks is moving back, giving Snow time to clear the mines and drop zealot bombs Shuttle is lost SNOW PUSHING Stasis on some tanks Snow looks to be cleaning up the army, but Barracks has some sitting idle at his nat Nice zealots rushing into mine drag 5 tanks
Yes Snow! Snow looking to take 9, but his idea is shut down CC under construction at 2.5 3 ish but a reaver finishes the scv Barracks finally notices the troops he had Carriers OMG DONT PULL A MOVIE Goons going down to mass vultures Saves a few of them
4th cc finishes but lift off because tons of zealot was coming Barrack JUST starts his facility vultures running around and getting killed in the middle of the map Snow iwth 1 arbs out with +1 air attack already.
4th for Snow is warping in, and Snow forces Barracks to lift his 4th Starport + add on is complete and sciene facility following up Vulture numbers widling down First carrier out 6? facts 8ish gateways and 4 stargates
Snow taking 11 Barracks has the middle of the map seiged up Zealots rushing towards the 4th of Barracks Goons melting to the masses of tanks First vessel out Barrack's mech army is attacking the 3rd, dmax a gol No gols left, Carriers have free reign over the tanks and vultures He should snipe the vessel 6 carriers slaughtering Barrack's army
On May 01 2011 14:07 infinitestory wrote: Carriers are REALLY strong.
Man I thought Snow was dead there. No ground army vs huge terran ball.
He waited until the last minute to reveal the switch. Poor Barracks probably thought Snow had so little forces because the terran army had killed them all, haha.
Massive EMP on carriers. Confrontation in middle of the map More things die to Carriers. Gols doing best to fend carriers but melt to goons This looks bleak for Barracks.
Half-assed push in the midgame that failed because there were a huge bunch of units sitting at the rally point doing nothing at all, super late upgrades for some dumb reason, dying to unscouted carriers.... that seemed way too much like me playing. XD
Well, that was disappointing. Barracks showed some nice play but also some committed major blunders, including poor execution of the initial push, failure to scout the carrier switch, and allowing his fourth to get delayed and shut down way too easily.
Is no one else confused by how late Barracks built his Science facility? You simply don't get your upgrades that late in modern TvP if you're going for a late-game oriented strategy. O_o
On May 01 2011 14:14 Holgerius wrote: Is no one else confused by how late Barracks built his Science facility? You simply don't get your upgrades that late in modern TvP if you're going for a late-game oriented strategy. O_o
Seriously, arbs was out a good 5 minutes before he gets his science facility.
Actually, I'm getting really confused now, because I clearly remember a science facility built and finished in his main, and then all of a sudden he's building one at his third. Did he get two? Or am I just suffering from the fact that I'm still drunk and haven't slept a second thus far tonight?
On May 01 2011 14:18 Holgerius wrote: Actually, I'm getting really confused now, because I clearly remember a science facility built and finished in his main, and then all of a sudden he's building one at his third. Did he get two? Or am I just suffering from the fact that I'm still drunk and haven't slept a second thus far tonight?
Maybe it was me that didn't see the first science facility at all. I'll have to see the vods later tomorrow
The only facility I caught LRing and watching was the one at the 3rd o.o Oh well, when the vods come the answers will aswell That probe... Whos the zerg playing? EDIT: Action
Spire morphing Citadel and stargate are up One ling gets into the main Archives is almost complete I'd laugh if Horang was making a scout right now 4th hatchery at the nat
Scourge almost gets the first sair Ling finally dies DT out for Horang 2 more gates in base Loses his sair for an OL T.T HT chilling between the two buildings Sunken forces the DT back 4 gates Archon morphing
DT nets 4 drone kills before going down at Actions nat Mutascourge harrasing the nat Archon and sairs are there though Dual Hydra Dens? And another hatchery
One scourge lands Nice storm on the scourge MUta's free to take out all the muta's Nice spread though by Action Hydralurk is in play Scourge take out 2 of 4 sairs
I don't know what the hell Action was doing that game. His fail multitasking and unit positioning didn't exactly help him make the most of what he had either.
I didn't see the whole game. How come Horang won so easily?
Horang2 did what he always does in PvP and PvZ - two base all in. Action didn't bother scouting Horang's base so he basically was a lamb to the slaughter.
I didn't see the whole game. How come Horang won so easily?
Horang2 did what he always does in PvP and PvZ - two base all in. Action didn't bother scouting Horang's base so he basically was a lamb to the slaughter.
Pretty sure he took his third(or at least sent a probe up there) right before he hit Action's third.
I didn't see the whole game. How come Horang won so easily?
Horang2 did what he always does in PvP and PvZ - two base all in. Action didn't bother scouting Horang's base so he basically was a lamb to the slaughter.
Pretty sure he took his third(or at least sent a probe up there) right before he hit Action's third.
That's how it works. You mass tons of gates off two base and smash your opponents army apart so that you can expand safely.
If Horang didn't completely kill Action's army at the contain he would have pretty much lost.
On May 01 2011 14:29 Spica wrote: ACTION, STARTING THE DOUBLE HYDRA DEN REVOLUTION FOR ZVP
It's what he beat Bisu with too.
5hat muta scourge into taking second and third gas at same time and then 6th hat as he makes both hydra dens. It's pretty sick at stopping speedlot/sair that more P's use nowadays.
Check tried it vs Movie too but either made a misread in his management in that he died to a dt or was just nervous. ~_~
Marine from SkyHigh, at the mineral line of Roo Nice scv block got him a drone kill? I think? Marine is behind the mineral line now Firs ttwo lings out Marine is dead, CC is under construction at the nat and a vulture is out I saw a starport aswell Sunken at the nat Lair morphing
First wraith out, add on for port is coming Science facility building Nat is complete for Skyhigh Spire is only started so wraith has free shots for now 2 OL's down so far Hydra den is complete, whoops didn't catch that SEXY Wraith micro
LOL mine glitch KTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTTKKT VS HITEHITEHITEHITE(should be CJ imo) Ebay is complete, as is facility Wraith coming back for a 4th kill, but gets denied by the hydars First vessel is out Wraith is STILL alive
Vulture denys the 3rd from Roo at 9 brb going to get food ;D Queens nest 3rd delayed even more because of mines at all 3 expos at the left side Epic vulture even snipes the drone
6 rax total MutaLurkerling rushing into the nat mass vessels Bunker goes down Only 2 lurkers leftwith ling support Lurker and several lings get taken out by a mine SH lifts nat Hydraling followup
Lurker ling at the front door, 3 of the 4 lurkers were irradiated though Is that the WOO player? So many OL's going to go down to the marines 6 total 46 supply? I think Off centre hatchery for Roo at 10 2nd ebay getting build Defilers out You need fbats Skyhigh Lurkers getting irradiated Marines arracking the 3rd at 9 Both sunkens go down Hatchery is down aswell
On May 01 2011 15:00 radialis wrote: OMFG IT'S THE HOWLING ENTUS FAN. SHUT THE FUCK UP
One of the best comment on this thread right now Roo opting to expand to 12 now 10 is getting taken out All drones long distance mining are slaughtered Hatchery at 10 is down, 12 is either cancelled or down
1 oclock has a hatchery morphing, getting destroyed though No cancel yet, it cancels I think One vessel goes down Two defilers get irradiated Playgu on a small force of MnM Is that hero wraith still there? GG from Roo
Perfective needs to change his ID to Defective. That was far from perfection and close to absolute failure. There were so many fails in that game, casting swarms after all lings died, leaving a huge clump of overlords in front of terran natural, rally points letting drones go all over the map, sending like 4 drones to take 1 expo because of a mine and a vulture... sigh. But I'll forgive this nonsense if Flash plays next.
I still don't like perfect've decision to 3hatch before pool as he fucking saw the barracks at THE BOTTOM OF THE TERRAN'S RAMP holy shit only if skyhigh bunker rush then it was over already :/
On May 01 2011 15:04 X10A wrote: Am I the only one to vote yes on reccomended? T.T
me too ^_^
haters gawn hate.
I thought there were some sneaky little plays by skyhigh, and a nice defense. Faked mech, kinda. He put lotsa pressure on. But yeah, perfective kinda fell apart.
Lol skyhigh did well that game idk what everyone is on about, he did a fast vessel build uncommon but payed off, muta harass was pretty much denied entirely and once that attack failed skyhigh just pumped out an army and was all over the map denying all zergs expos, great stuff xP
On May 01 2011 15:03 JIJIyO wrote: Lol sounds like some old school anime music playing right now. Awesome.
Do you mean shortly after the game? That's Galneryus.
Yeah after the game. I did some research and found it out was Glaneryus from other matches a while back. Are they popular in Korea or something?
I don't know if they are popular generally, but I've been hearing them in SC broadcasts on and off for a long time. The song is quite old and the lead guitarist, I think, has since left the band.
On May 01 2011 15:03 konadora wrote: looks like it's down to flash again lolol
maybe im just a ignorant sc2 player but isnt it always down to flash?
When it was Bo5 they could count on Stats or Forgg to reliably win something.
But lol Bo7, you can't get to the ace match with just Stats and Flash.
No you can't ;(
Well yeah Forgg was pretty horrible to watch but at least he could just do an aggressive two fact and fluke a win. Kind of like that ace match against Really where he just walked his units into Really's main.
On May 01 2011 15:03 JIJIyO wrote: Lol sounds like some old school anime music playing right now. Awesome.
Do you mean shortly after the game? That's Galneryus.
Yeah after the game. I did some research and found it out was Glaneryus from other matches a while back. Are they popular in Korea or something?
I don't know if they are popular generally, but I've been hearing them in SC broadcasts on and off for a long time. The song is quite old and the lead guitarist, I think, has since left the band.
Ah I see. I hate when bands lose band members, so this is some bad news even though I know nothing of the band.
On May 01 2011 15:09 Spyfire242 wrote: Lol skyhigh did well that game idk what everyone is on about, he did a fast vessel build uncommon but payed off, muta harass was pretty much denied entirely and once that attack failed skyhigh just pumped out an army and was all over the map denying all zergs expos, great stuff xP
He did great, I admit but you got to give it to the zerg for being stupid by 3 hatching before pool when he saw the barracks at the bottom of the ramp in the first place. But Skyhigh played a nice game afterward, had me worried when the lurker bust came but he had enough irradiate so that was good.
OMG GTR More G.NA you're the best <3 Well back to the games I think its a given that its Flash vs MOVIE!! Facebook posting time ;D CJ fans should do it with me
MOVIE SMILED!?! Players look like there having a niec chat And okum, you don't need to save for ace matches in regular PL, they're chosen at the 7th game
Did Flash just scout the nat again? He did... Movie's first zealot is harassing the marines, goon trying to deny the scout, but scv gets in Core is spinning, 1 gate
First two goons coming at the nat of Flash, 1 tank and 4 rines drive them back 6 marines actually, but down to 4 2 tanks 3 marines and 2 tanks left, 3 goons, with a 4th coming to reinfoce 1 marine left! Vulture with mines and another marine is coming Ahh mine gets a goon Probes are pulled off the line Flash taking his nat Nexus cancelled SCV's coming towards the nat of Movie Acadamy under construction Obs is warping, robo is complete Tank is getting repaired 2 rines 3 tanks 1 vulture 3 gates for Movie
First observer is out Seige is not researched yet? Seige is researeched Mine almost drag into the tanks Flash using his tanks smartly, reinforcing Robotics is warping, shuttle is out Flash taking 6
Flash urg Zealots drop onto the tanks, goons coem in from behind and the ramp Only 2 tanks left, marines coming to fill the bunker Facts are not producing Reaver takes out both tanks! Shuttle very cloes to death Epic mass repair on the bunker Tanks come to seige up again This looks like my D- Toss situations on Python right about now
Shuttle gets killed off with the reaver in it T.T FACEBOOK POST IS NOT HELPING ME Marines pushing into the main Tank and vulture aswell Bulding two bunkers in the main Ahh Movie T.T gg
How is this game recommended? It was crap and boring :s
It's Flash.
People come to watch his games for either: 1) An incredible game 2) Absolute domination
This game was beyond absolute domination, it looked like what I used to do vs noob D- protosses on bnet. I think everyone appreciated that they could look like Flash for a minute, I sure did =)
How is this game recommended? It was crap and boring :s
It's Flash.
People come to watch his games for either: 1) An incredible game 2) Absolute domination
This game was beyond absolute domination, it looked like what I used to do vs noob D- protosses on bnet. I think everyone appreciated that they could look like Flash for a minute, I sure did =)
Seriously I got to be honest here, his game looks like my game when I FD against toss but I always contains them like that but never win LOL
Both players taking their nat Pools are complete at almost the same time Both scout in the wrong direciton initailly One of Hydra's 4 lings gets trapped by CH's 6 Lair morphing for Hydra Hydra losing some of his lings WHITE PEOPLE CH is going to get chased out
Spire planted for both players I want to see a hydra den bm from someone lol CH started a creep conlon at his nat, but cancels CH taking his nat gas, Hydra is now Ling engagement Hydra coming ahead because of reinforcements
c-h wins ling battle, but ling reinforcements turn the tide! but this means C-H's mutas are a tiny bit earlier! plus he started mining gas at his nat earlier
Both players with alot of scourge Hydra lands a few, takes out 2? mutas Hydra on the run now from all the scourge CH has no scourge, but a clutch pair of scourge turn the tide Hydra's scourge only land once CH taking out the drones at the nat CH has free reign over the drones GG
I really hope it's Hydra vs Flash. Hydra has beaten all other TBLS members, I would very much like to find out if he has what it takes to bring down the final boss. :D
On May 01 2011 15:49 Holgerius wrote: I really hope it's Hydra vs Flash. Hydra has beaten all other TBLS members, I would very much like to find out if he has what it takes to bring down the final boss. :D
On May 01 2011 15:49 Holgerius wrote: I really hope it's Hydra vs Flash. Hydra has beaten all other TBLS members, I would very much like to find out if he has what it takes to bring down the final boss. :D
Hydra not mining gas from his nat Flash planting down his fact, supply blocked from fpv? Evo and hydra den morphing Hydra has a 3rd at 5 Ebay is flashing That muta micro T.T
Flash scans the 5 oclock expo Lurkers ar emorphing there and at the nat A sunken is morphing at the nat 5 rax Starport complete So lurkers left, but only 3 marines and some medics Hydra holds
FLASH SCAN THE LURKER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP AND THE COMMENTATOR IS AMUSED BUT LURKER BURROW A LITTLE MORE TO THE BACK AND FLASH MOVED IN TO ATTACK AND GOT A BUNCH OF MARINES KILLED
Hive morphing Is there something at 1? 6? rax +1 attack for rines First two tanks out, one gets sniped 4th hatch in main for Hydra Lurkers burrowed in the path of Flash, mapahacks scan Only 1 of 4 lurkers get away Tank is seiged up and taking out that sunken Defiler mound no where to be seen...
On May 01 2011 16:09 Tenhou wrote: FLASH SCAN THE LURKER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MAP AND THE COMMENTATOR IS AMUSED BUT LURKER BURROW A LITTLE MORE TO THE BACK AND FLASH MOVED IN TO ATTACK AND GOT A BUNCH OF MARINES KILLED
you forgot to mention he killed of the 4 lurkers lol
On May 01 2011 16:10 ilj.psa wrote: lol he forgot defiler mount
we saw the drone go over to build it... and it wouldnt have been up in time regardless. i think that he needed lurkers to defend shortterm and used the gas instead on lurkers
On May 01 2011 16:11 Spica wrote: Well, it's Flash after all... He learned what the ultimate weapon was firsthand. Not a very good first experience. I still believe though Hydra!
Still, Hite has insane depth when you look at their team, Leta wasn't even sent out... If KT still had Forgg and Violet they would have insane depth... At least CH was a good buy
On May 01 2011 16:12 GTR wrote: i am utmost confident if flash played warcraft 3, brood war AND starcraft 2 at the same time, he'd be winning leagues in all of them.
agreed, that I have no doubt, but still I pray he doesn't go for sc2
On May 01 2011 16:10 _Quasar_ wrote: well seems that with this build no damage with early mutas = no chance to win.
2 hatch all in mutas doesnt win, unless the turrets arent up at arrival of mutas
it can still win if you do enough damage with the mutas but hydra rather mismicroed his mutas in the beginning and carelessly lost them
This.
Hydra's muta micro was horrible in the initial attack, and 2 hatch muta is pretty dependent on early damage. If you don't do some damage your at an eco disadvantage and its pretty hard to come back. If its Flash, its pretty much impossible.
On May 01 2011 16:11 Spica wrote: Well, it's Flash after all... He learned what the ultimate weapon was firsthand. Not a very good first experience. I still believe though Hydra!
On May 01 2011 16:11 Spica wrote: Well, it's Flash after all... He learned what the ultimate weapon was firsthand. Not a very good first experience. I still believe though Hydra!
Interview please ^^
Crazy-Hydra: Being crazy helps a lot in ZvZ. I hope hydra learns that. Stats: Bbyong spends too much time worshipping TL.net Flash: Multiplayer is too easy for me. I think i'll try 1v2 soon.
On May 01 2011 16:11 Spica wrote: Well, it's Flash after all... He learned what the ultimate weapon was firsthand. Not a very good first experience. I still believe though Hydra!
I don't think Hydra originally intended to break that contain without defilers, but I think once he realized that the drone wasn't building a defiler mound, he was like "fuck it there's no way I can hold till dark swarm". Cross positions really didn't help Hydra with that build.
I love it when Flash plays aggressively but it seemed like he was a little too aggressive and lost way too many units He could've won that much more cleanly.
On May 01 2011 16:16 DarkMatter_ wrote: I don't think Hydra originally intended to break that contain without defilers, but I think once he realized that the drone wasn't building a defiler mound, he was like "fuck it there's no way I can hold till dark swarm". Cross positions really didn't help Hydra with that build.
I love it when Flash plays aggressively but it seemed like he was a little too aggressive and lost way too many units He could've won that much more cleanly.
more or less, it was a BO disadvantage. Hydra still could've pulled it off cleaner though
On May 01 2011 16:16 DarkMatter_ wrote: I don't think Hydra originally intended to break that contain without defilers, but I think once he realized that the drone wasn't building a defiler mound, he was like "fuck it there's no way I can hold till dark swarm". Cross positions really didn't help Hydra with that build.
I love it when Flash plays aggressively but it seemed like he was a little too aggressive and lost way too many units He could've won that much more cleanly.
more or less, it was a BO disadvantage. Hydra still could've pulled it off cleaner though
It wasn't a BO advantage or disadvantage as 2 hatch muta depends on the early micro... if he had better micro against the mnm at flash's base then he could have his 3rd easy and flash couldn't move out of his base while building more turret :/
Wait, I mean for your opponents. WTF. You made Movie look like a D- toss on Python, and you pushed Hydra over with UNBELIEVABLE maphax scans on top of STOP LURKERS. Ridiculous.
Flash probably played aggressively in both games since he is focusing on TvT heavily. In quick games he can rely on his micro to win. If the game becomes longer and longer the "lack" (I realize even if he doesn't practice he will still kick ass) of practice will hurt him more.
On May 01 2011 16:19 AppleTart wrote: Flash probably played aggressively in both games since he is focusing on TvT heavily. In quick games he can rely on his micro to win. If the game becomes longer and longer the "lack" (I realize even if he doesn't practice he will still kick ass) of practice will hurt him more.
He didn't play unusually aggressive in the Hydra game. That was normal push out time.
On May 01 2011 16:19 AppleTart wrote: Flash probably played aggressively in both games since he is focusing on TvT heavily. In quick games he can rely on his micro to win. If the game becomes longer and longer the "lack" (I realize even if he doesn't practice he will still kick ass) of practice will hurt him more.
He didn't play unusually aggressive in the Hydra game. That was normal push out time.
The first marine break was pretty aggressive, I didn't think he would just lunge in like that. I think usually Flash wouldn't have gone in like that, his judgement is a lot better. That's like the 2nd break he's ever failed.
On May 01 2011 16:16 DarkMatter_ wrote: I don't think Hydra originally intended to break that contain without defilers, but I think once he realized that the drone wasn't building a defiler mound, he was like "fuck it there's no way I can hold till dark swarm". Cross positions really didn't help Hydra with that build.
I love it when Flash plays aggressively but it seemed like he was a little too aggressive and lost way too many units He could've won that much more cleanly.
more or less, it was a BO disadvantage. Hydra still could've pulled it off cleaner though
It wasn't a BO advantage or disadvantage as 2 hatch muta depends on the early micro... if he had better micro against the mnm at flash's base then he could have his 3rd easy and flash couldn't move out of his base while building more turret :/
On May 01 2011 16:19 AppleTart wrote: Flash probably played aggressively in both games since he is focusing on TvT heavily. In quick games he can rely on his micro to win. If the game becomes longer and longer the "lack" (I realize even if he doesn't practice he will still kick ass) of practice will hurt him more.
I'm pretty sure Flash prepared in equal amounts for T/Z/P, since Leta/Skyhigh/Hydra/Snow would all be viable ace candidates.
On May 01 2011 16:19 AppleTart wrote: Flash probably played aggressively in both games since he is focusing on TvT heavily. In quick games he can rely on his micro to win. If the game becomes longer and longer the "lack" (I realize even if he doesn't practice he will still kick ass) of practice will hurt him more.
I'm pretty sure Flash prepared in equal amounts for T/Z/P, since Leta/Skyhigh/Hydra/Snow would all be viable ace candidates.
Well I said TvT b/c he is practicing TvT for his MSL
On May 01 2011 16:19 AppleTart wrote: Flash probably played aggressively in both games since he is focusing on TvT heavily. In quick games he can rely on his micro to win. If the game becomes longer and longer the "lack" (I realize even if he doesn't practice he will still kick ass) of practice will hurt him more.
I'm pretty sure Flash prepared in equal amounts for T/Z/P, since Leta/Skyhigh/Hydra/Snow would all be viable ace candidates.
On May 01 2011 16:16 DarkMatter_ wrote: I don't think Hydra originally intended to break that contain without defilers, but I think once he realized that the drone wasn't building a defiler mound, he was like "fuck it there's no way I can hold till dark swarm". Cross positions really didn't help Hydra with that build.
I love it when Flash plays aggressively but it seemed like he was a little too aggressive and lost way too many units He could've won that much more cleanly.
more or less, it was a BO disadvantage. Hydra still could've pulled it off cleaner though
It wasn't a BO advantage or disadvantage as 2 hatch muta depends on the early micro... if he had better micro against the mnm at flash's base then he could have his 3rd easy and flash couldn't move out of his base while building more turret :/
i meant spawn position. mb
I don't get what you're saying now.
Closer position would give the 2hatch muta a shorter distance so it should be better for hydra o.O
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote: Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.
msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck
flash just has better game sense he always knows when he can push and just win outright
There was nothing special about Flash's push timing, it was pretty standard. What sealed the deal was Flash's good defense against mutas combined with Hydra's terrible muta control. When you go for that kind of build and don't do any damage, it's going to be nearly impossible to stop the midgame push. Despite losing that massive MnM force, Flash's midgame army was still too much for Hydra to handle.
Also, I really don't think map imbalance is relevant in cross position.
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote: Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.
msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck
flash just has better game sense he always knows when he can push and just win outright
Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.
Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.
Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.
Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote: Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.
msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck
flash just has better game sense he always knows when he can push and just win outright
Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.
Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.
Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.
Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.
He beat Bisu once, unimpressive. ZvZs are volatile, Jaedong can't win them all. Light is now a Woongjin Terran. He beat Stork on Dante's peak. He's overall unimpressive. I'm comparing him to players who can perform with disadvantages and still win.
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote: Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.
msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck
flash just has better game sense he always knows when he can push and just win outright
Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.
Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.
Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.
Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.
He is right with the MSL winner argument though. People always bring that up but his MSL run only proved that he is good versus Zerg. Opponents:
Killer Calm Classic Calm Jaedong great
Classic was the only non-zerg opponent and he isn't really A-material at the moment, especially vs Zerg.
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote: Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.
msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck
flash just has better game sense he always knows when he can push and just win outright
Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.
Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.
Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.
Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.
He beat Bisu once, unimpressive. ZvZs are volatile, Jaedong can't win them all. Light is now a Woongjin Terran. He beat Stork on Dante's peak. He's overall unimpressive. I'm comparing him to players who can perform with disadvantages and still win.
The win over Bisu was far from unimpressive. And its not the guys fault if they only faced once. I see the problem....you cried when he eliminated JD last MSL? *-) Thats the only reason I can think of for such an agressive posting. For JD yeah ZvZ is volatile cant win them all...guess what Hydra did and despite the fact that they were ZvZs he won them. The fact that light is in Woongjin is suposed to be funny? After your bm posts I dont find it funny, he didnt forget how to TvZ just because he switched teams.
How many players have lost to Flash and looked silly? I've seen JD more than once in that position and plenty of other progamers that are good or very good beeing stomped by Flash and looking bad in the process.
Hydra is a good player. No point in trying to make him super good because he (still) isnt but theres no reason also to make him look like a complete noob or an awful player because he isnt also.
On May 01 2011 16:34 Kamille wrote: Hydra sucks, not sure why he is sent out every ace.
msl winner.. people need to stop saying people suck etc when they don't suck
flash just has better game sense he always knows when he can push and just win outright
Hydra is awful. MSL winner automatically means he's good? I don't think so, especially since it was all ZvZ.
Flash suicides his first set of marines into two lurkers and Hydra still manages to lose.
Edit. As Ryo pointed out, this was on Icarus with a 43% TvZ rate. Everything was looking good for Hydra.
Saying he's awful is just absurd when he's beaten Bisu, Jaedong (in a Bo5), Light (x2), and Stork. I definitely think he's overhyped and those results aren't a proper indication of his skill, but to say that he's awful is just ridiculous.
He beat Bisu once, unimpressive. ZvZs are volatile, Jaedong can't win them all. Light is now a Woongjin Terran. He beat Stork on Dante's peak. He's overall unimpressive. I'm comparing him to players who can perform with disadvantages and still win.
On May 01 2011 19:07 NicksonReyes wrote: Yes! KTs started round 5 good with one loss against SKT(which is pretty standard). Go KT for SPL Finals! Defeat SKT in their forte!
How is KT losing in the regular season to SKT standard? If it's anything it's an upset.
I wish Hydra didn't go for that stupid all-in build and fail to do ANY damage with mutas. I wish he played normal style and then we'd get a much much more interesting game than this. X_x And at this map, 3rd is pretty easy defendable.
On May 01 2011 20:36 _Quasar_ wrote: I wish Hydra didn't go for that stupid all-in build and fail to do ANY damage with mutas. I wish he played normal style and then we'd get a much much more interesting game than this. X_x And at this map, 3rd is pretty easy defendable.
wtf hydra wasn't all-in at all
flash just scanned and saw that hydra droned up pretty hard while rushing to hive
add to this that Hydra didn't even have +1 muta cara to help delay and hardly any zerglings and Flash knew that he could move out early and win
12p lair management is REALLY delicate and you walk the most razorthin wire ever
I'm glad that someone was there to punish the evil Zerg of Savior's bloodline, but i'm sad at the same time because the guy who did that is the turtle Terran of evil KT lol.
So I wasn't able to catch the games live(since I was too tired) but I watched the VODs unspoiled. But I already knew who was going to win when I saw this:
On May 02 2011 02:10 Kipsate wrote: So I wasn't able to catch the games live(since I was too tired) but I watched the VODs unspoiled. I already knew who was going to win when I saw this:
On May 02 2011 02:10 Kipsate wrote: So I wasn't able to catch the games live(since I was too tired) but I watched the VODs unspoiled. But I already knew who was going to win when I saw this:
If I was the coach I wouldn't have sent out Hydra for Ace... especially after just losing. Obviously Flash was expected, so maybe Skyhigh or something..
Skyhigh vs Perfective worst game i've seen for a while. That build Skyhigh used was terrible, at one point he had 3 vessels and no units at all. Any other Z would have finished him off, but he was just lucky his opponent sucked so hard.
Can any P players explain why Movie expanded after seeing 7 marines and a tank at Flash's natural? Against someone else i could maybe understand but it's Flash... best to stick on 1base surely to defend it easier.
Hydra's vT is a bit crap to be honest (not just saying this by this game either, it's not impressed me so far). Jaedong is still the Zerg king for now despite the last MSL. Since Leta didn't even play i expected him to come out with a specific snipe build in the ace match.
On May 02 2011 06:40 infinity2k9 wrote: Skyhigh vs Perfective worst game i've seen for a while. That build Skyhigh used was terrible, at one point he had 3 vessels and no units at all. Any other Z would have finished him off, but he was just lucky his opponent sucked so hard.
Can any P players explain why Movie expanded after seeing 7 marines and a tank at Flash's natural? Against someone else i could maybe understand but it's Flash... best to stick on 1base surely to defend it easier.
Hydra's vT is a bit crap to be honest (not just saying this by this game either, it's not impressed me so far). Jaedong is still the Zerg king for now despite the last MSL. Since Leta didn't even play i expected him to come out with a specific snipe build in the ace match.
those vessels raped the sh*t out of those mutas though. And because perfective had such a crappy opening even while opening 3 hatch no spawn, he had the time to go fast vessels.
I think the biggest mistake movie made was when he kept walking back and forth on the ramp with his first zealot. He should have sent the zealot in as deep as possible to check the factory/gas timings. At the time, Flash only had 2 marines so it's hard to tell if it's a strong FD just by looking at marine count, but if he had seen the conspicuous 10 Rax 10 Gas timing he would have been able to confirm the opening and built another gateway earlier.
On May 02 2011 10:08 reincremate wrote: Crazy-hydra vs Hydra was like Fantasy vs Reality in the sense that you already knew who was gonna win just by reading the names.
lol.
like everybody else said that perfective vs skyhigh game was disgusting. sheer lack of scourge into mass vessels just irradiate whatever he had, which was nothing after that opening
I add the interview to the op so a few years from now, people can see it without looking for interview thread(I myself have done this a lot because I just start sc about 2 years ago)lol.
Hmmmmmm, flash seemed to be slightly off his game in TvZ. Mistakes like leaving tanks out and wasting ur whole army to sunken/lurker bust was surprising o.O
On May 02 2011 03:39 zenMaster wrote: As much as I hate Flash I'm still glad that he beat that dirtbag Hydra.
I don't like Hydra at all either, but "dirtbag", that's a bit strong, isn't it?
Flash roflstomped both Movie and Hydra so much it was not even funny to watch anymore. Seriously, it's like watching Draco at his prime play against my grandmother.
Like, when he TvP, it seems the whole game is a timing window, from the moment he splits scvs to the moment the map is all mined out.
Are you supposed to roll over a toss who goes for a standart safe opening with 2 tanks and some marines? I mean, seriously.
When watching the first sunken bust attempt vs Hydra I think I may have noticed something. Before Flash got there, three hydra morphed into lurks, but during the battle I only clearly saw 2. If what I saw was true then I think Hydra had a stacked lurker which may have lead Flash to believe it would be an easy break. The difference between 2 and 3 lurkers in that situation was pretty large.
It didn't end up mattering that much considering Terran typically ends up losing the first mnm group but could explain Flash's mistake in pushing that attack.
On May 02 2011 10:08 reincremate wrote: Crazy-hydra vs Hydra was like Fantasy vs Reality in the sense that you already knew who was gonna win just by reading the names.
On May 02 2011 10:08 reincremate wrote: Crazy-hydra vs Hydra was like Fantasy vs Reality in the sense that you already knew who was gonna win just by reading the names.
Heros have to beat things; they can't beat nothing. Zero is nothing. Therefore he can't beat Zero. + Show Spoiler +
j/k Zero is the impeccable King of Queens and a QT pi
Anyways, Flash made FD look like 2 Fact. Has Flash ever gone 2 Fact in a televised game? It seems like it would have been a bit more likely to have occurred during his Cheddar Terran phase (although 2 fact is obvs far from cheese unless it's proxy 2 fact) than in his dominate-everyone-most-of-the-time-but-not-when-it-matters-phase or in his current God mode.
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