We shall see if the new world order will be established or not...
SKT: 20-11 KT: 18-11
So if KT wins this match and the next match, and defeats SKT the next time they meet, KT will claim #1 spot. that's not even counting the possibility of SKT dropping another match.
Rather unfair to send out the FINAL boss, eh? Lately, they've been showing that their other players are quite capable of winning without Flash, so I don't think it should be too much of a problem for KT to roll through STX.
Hopefully, Flash won't play with his food this time.
That's bad decision by KT Coach IMO. I bet every single team has a special-task player designed to combat Flash with a prepared strategy, if he goes up first. Let's see who can be the one in STX.
-His SCVs 10 Mins and 10 Gas per turn -All Units from Factory has +2 armor without upgrades -Has 5 Spider Mines per Vulture -Goliaths costs 25 Gas, Minerals remain the same -Vultures costs 50 Minerals
Flash takes out 2 of Bogus's expos one after another with simultaneous drops, going from down 1 base to up 1 in a matter of seconds and disables a third one from mining for about 30 seconds.
Flash clears out the reconstructing 4 once again with another drop, forcing Bogus to cancel his expo. Bogus brings dropships to clean it up, but Flash has yet another fleet of dropships bringing more units to kill Bogus's freshly completed expo at 4.5. Bogus manages to clean it up with the majority of his army and a fleet of dropships.
On March 01 2011 18:31 integral wrote: flash is a little TOO confident, his drops have been getting thinner and bogus has a significant army
the potential for a dangerous counterdrop is increasing
Flash is forcing Bogus to trade ground armies almost nonstop, and his BC infrastructure is nearly complete, while Bogus doesn't have any infrastructure and is building nearly pure tanks.
Flash drops to clean up the middle of the map as his first BCs appear. He brings his army down toward the 4 and 4.5 bases once again, taking out some SCVs and sieging up outside the nearly completed expo once again. This will be the third time it has died. Bogus tries to counterdrop, but there are too many goliaths waiting nearby. Flash's BCs are starting to mass up now!
On March 01 2011 18:31 integral wrote: flash is a little TOO confident, his drops have been getting thinner and bogus has a significant army
the potential for a dangerous counterdrop is increasing
Flash is forcing Bogus to trade ground armies almost nonstop, and his BC infrastructure is nearly complete, whiel Bogus doesn't have any infrastructure and is building nearly pure tanks.
Both are on 6 bases with the map split, but Bogus has not been mining out of most of them, and the 4' base has been rebuilt 3 times, and never got off the ground, so it's barely been mined, while Flash's bases have been up and running nonstop.
Flash pushing down into Bogus's 4' base once again, now with 12 BCs and a significant army. Bogus massing starports for a wraith transition at the bottom right main.
Flash decides to flank Bogus's army at the 4 and then push into the expo, taking it down, instead of engaging directly as Bogus masses wraiths. Flash has a vessel waiting and defensive matrixes his BCs, Bogus pulls back his wraiths immediately and cloaks, taking out many BCs, but loses all his wraiths all his starports and GGs!
On March 01 2011 18:39 okum wrote: Ugh, typical STX style gg timing.
This. But it's gotta feel pretty hopeless trying to get a win on FlaSh. Maybe their gameplan is to make FlaSh play long games so that his wrist will cramp up again.
Flash beating scrubs in TvT is so boring to watch. Just keeps building his advantage slowly while the opponent just keeps trying to stay alive for as long as possible.
On March 01 2011 18:39 mnesthes wrote: Is Flash getting any more goliaths or valks?
Flash had so many BCs that he was killing starports while Bogus was trying to mass up wraiths, and then basically just sat there and let his BCs kill wraiths before Bogus was able to get enough wraiths to kill his BCs.
Man, does a guy have to GG the instant that it looks bad for him in the game?
Bogus hung on really well there despite basically losing almost every engagement throughout that game. With a little surprise, and a little more time, he might have pulled out an amazing comeback.
On March 01 2011 18:39 okum wrote: Ugh, typical STX style gg timing.
This. But it's gotta feel pretty hopeless trying to get a win on FlaSh. Maybe their gameplan is to make FlaSh play long games so that his wrist will cramp up again.
He's not really playing a micro heavy style, though. Aside from the early game where he microed fantastically to kill those initial vultures, and then the tanks on the second push, he was mostly playing out a mental advantage, always dropping where Bogus didn't expect it, and then a-moving BCs when he had a huge lead.
On March 01 2011 18:45 2Pacalypse- wrote: Lol wtf is the ruler for?
Flash always measures the keyboard's location in relation to the edge of the desk, the monitor and the mousepad, he's been doing it for years. Kid is a machine, machines require exactness.
On March 01 2011 18:41 SimonB wrote: Man, does a guy have to GG the instant that it looks bad for him in the game?
Bogus hung on really well there despite basically losing almost every engagement throughout that game. With a little surprise, and a little more time, he might have pulled out an amazing comeback.
Making a comeback against the king of comebacks in a FvT? It's so unlikely that will happen.
On March 01 2011 18:45 2Pacalypse- wrote: Lol wtf is the ruler for?
He's really meticulous about where everything on his desk is placed, so he measures it out and tapes it down.
ruler must be lining up keyboard with monitor and making sure its parallel and perfect distance, since no progamer looks at keyboard he probably wants his keys in the exact relative position from monitor in perfect position. Just my guess
On March 01 2011 18:45 2Pacalypse- wrote: Lol wtf is the ruler for?
Flash always measures the keyboard's location in relation to the edge of the desk, the monitor and the mousepad, he's been doing it for years. Kid is a machine, machines require exactness.
This. I know its not new but I cant avoid a lol everytime I see it
It's becoming a trend where KT wants to prevent Flash from playing Aztec to avoid any sniping from opposing Protosses. Let's see how this pans out. Hoping for some epic TvZ now.
Edit: Oops, Calm just came out! How will he fare against the Final Boss? :D
On March 01 2011 18:41 SimonB wrote: Man, does a guy have to GG the instant that it looks bad for him in the game?
Bogus hung on really well there despite basically losing almost every engagement throughout that game. With a little surprise, and a little more time, he might have pulled out an amazing comeback.
Making a comeback against the king of comebacks in a FvT? It's so unlikely that will happen.
It's pretty unlikely to win against Flash from the start.
But, seriously, I'm sick of this "bad gg timing" thing. Yeah, sometimes it's annoying, like when a guy basically intentionally prolongs the inevitable, like barricading his only mining base when he's completely unable to win (I'm looking at you, Best), but other times it feels like people get really cynical about these things, and they assume a guy can't come back from a difficult situation.
There's no reason to GG until it's absolutely clear that you can't win.
Flash scouts the lack of spire and immediately makes a dropship, heading straight to the main and dropping a group of marines! He forces the spire to cancel, kills many lings, and brings another group of marines down to the nat!
Calm prepares a doom drop, moving out, but it's going to run into a valkyrie and Flash scans it! He stims his marines and attacks the overlords! The overlord survive and make it into Flash's base! Flash puts defensive matrix up and pulls his army back! The lurkers are doing a ton of damage, but get cleaned up very quickly!
Calm preparing for a second drop, but Flash has moved out with his ground forces and catches most of the units before they load up. 2 overlords do drop in the main, but only get 2 lurkers down, which die shortly after.
Is it just me or is Flashs TvZ looking a bit off? This is not the terran I remembered who didn't allow any zerg player to keep up third expansion for more than a minute during several months.
Calm playing well though, but still. Its Flash..? I guess he will find a way to win anyway, he is terran <cough>, Flash, after all! :-)
Edit: By off I meant in relation to his perfect TvZ. Obviously he is still the best TvZ and the best Terran by far, not doubting that. Just not looking his usual perfection that just makes the matchup seem impossible for the zerg.
On March 01 2011 19:09 J1.au wrote: Flash has played a total of 3 Zergs this year and has gone 1-2. He obviously hasn't been focused on the match-up and it shows in his play.
All teams have kept sending out endless terrans and protosses againt him. Maybe this will inspire them to send out more zergs so he can get some more wins in the matchup.
On March 01 2011 19:10 letian wrote: New trend: when the team steps up - Bonjwas start losing. When team is slumping - Bonjwas stumping everyone around. This is natural balance.
No, trend is when you start the game with the final boss, it does not end well.
And when flash opens with a valk, it REALLY doesn't end well. ever.
On March 01 2011 19:10 letian wrote: New trend: when the team steps up - Bonjwas start losing. When team is slumping - Bonjwas stumping everyone around. This is natural balance.
No, trend is when you start the game with the final boss, it does not end well.
And when flash opens with a valk, it REALLY doesn't end well. ever.
Also, I think it's safe to say that Bisu is the undisputed king of the vZ matchup this season. He's been beating all the top zergs left and right, while Flash has lost to both Zero and Calm, the only good zergs that he's played so far (okay, he beat Soulkey twice, but SK is sucking pretty badly lately).
Even Light's TvZ has been more impressive this season.
Well, sounds like Flash was preemptively preparing for mutalisks, then switched to mech when he saw that Calm was going lurkers. Surprising, considering how calculative Flash normally is.
On March 01 2011 19:10 letian wrote: New trend: when the team steps up - Bonjwas start losing. When team is slumping - Bonjwas stumping everyone around. This is natural balance.
No, trend is when you start the game with the final boss, it does not end well.
And when flash opens with a valk, it REALLY doesn't end well. ever.
KT had no choice but to send Flash first, well I guess they could have had him play on Aztec but I'd rather send him to TvZ on Benzene than TvP on Aztec (and you know STX were going to send Kal there if Flash were still in)
Streamers if you're going to have the black box with the players names at least tell us colors/starting positions . Sorry, I know no one cares about a ZvZ.
On March 01 2011 19:27 Vasoline73 wrote: Streamers if you're going to have the black box with the players names at least tell us colors/starting positions . Sorry, I know no one cares about a ZvZ.
Perfective taking down Calm's nat with lings while harassing the main with his mutas. Calm finally takes the muta lead, but he's lost his nat and lings are heading into the main!
Roo prepares an evo and spore in his main, but his muta count is building back up now. Calm tries to engage, but has to back off from the sopre. Roo's mutas now killing Calm's drones unhindered! Calm loses almost all his drones, but cleans up with his muta and scourge!
On March 01 2011 19:32 BLinD-RawR wrote: what the fuck...they are just sitting in their base...
Calm can't attack because of the spore, and can't do anything but drone up, but Roo can't attack because he has no air units left after suiciding them to kill Calm's drones.
Final battle occurring now between Calm and Roo's mutas after Roo snipes all of Calm's drones again! More reinforcements show up for Roo, but he's still driven off by Calm's superior air force. Roo now sending lings down to harass drones again!
Roo making another wave of muta. He's going to run over Calm finally, since Calm has been mining so little for so long. Roo finally takes down Calm's last muta and Calm ggs!
On March 01 2011 19:40 Musou wrote: Do people really need to spoiler in a LR thread? I don't see why someone would click through the first page if they didn't want to be spoiled...
Has more to do with the no image macro thing than actual spoilers.
Especially when it was blatantly noted in that TL image macro thread to keep it in that thread alone.
On March 01 2011 19:40 Musou wrote: Do people really need to spoiler in a LR thread? I don't see why someone would click through the first page if they didn't want to be spoiled...
Has more to do with the no image macro thing than actual spoilers.
Especially when it was blatantly noted in that TL image macro thread to keep it in that thread alone.
On March 01 2011 19:40 Musou wrote: Do people really need to spoiler in a LR thread? I don't see why someone would click through the first page if they didn't want to be spoiled...
Has more to do with the no image macro thing than actual spoilers.
Especially when it was blatantly noted in that TL image macro thread to keep it in that thread alone.
This.
Personally, I wouldn't have minded... if I hadn't seen the URL of the image generator that was used lol.
Roo does a runby of about 20 lings right through Frozen's nat straight into his main and kills many SCVs and scouts everything as well as forcing Frozen to cancel his fast expo! Frozen tries to counter with wraith and vultures, but Roo has muta, scourge and sunkens waiting!
Cloak finishes just in time to save the wraiths from scourge, but Roo manages to save his overlord with mutas that show up just in time and killing off the wraiths!
wow... gg. awesome play by roo ^^ it's amazing how if flash loses, the rest of kt cleans up and wins for the team and vice versa. kt should now know never to send flash first ><
On March 01 2011 19:54 a7choi wrote: wow... gg. awesome play by roo ^^ it's amazing how if flash loses, the rest of kt cleans up and wins for the team and vice versa. kt should now know never to send flash first ><
Seems like any time Flash is sent out not as the ace he will drop a game somewhere along the line and someone else will clean up after him. KT's coaching is pretty tricky, throwing off all their opponents. I imagine STX already assumed Flash would be sent out last, so they prepped Bogus to kill everyone else, and had everyone else prepare for Flash, which backfired on them.
Kal gets his expansion up slightly earlier than Roo, 2 cannons going up before Roo's lings even scout him. Kal sending out a second probe to scout some more and getting chased down by lings.
First corsair out looking for overlords, but gets chased off by scourge before it kills anything. 2 scourge from the 9 attempt to intercept the corsair, but only 1 manages to land. DT heads out from Kal's base as Roo takes his 4th at the 8.
DTs score 2 freshly morphed drone kills before getting chased off by lings and sunkens. They head up toward Roo's nat along with +1 speedlots and a fleet of corsairs. Speedlings head down to counter and intercept reinforcements. Roo smartly makes a spore colony at his nat behind the simcity along with the sunkens so even if his overlords die, he'll be safe.
On March 01 2011 20:14 Heimatloser wrote: so whom could kt send if roo loses. we never were in a situation where we could sent a sniper...
Roo lands a ton of scourge on Kal's corsair as they look for overlords to hunt over at Roo's expansions. Nydus, Queen's Nest, and 3 creep colonies are being built all at once.
Roo double expanding to the 2 and 10 bases while fighting a large engagement in the center with Kal's army. He doesn't have enough and now Kal's deathball is growing. Kal with a disruption on the hydras, but Roo's lings are overrunning his min only at the inner 4!
Another large engagement in the center of the map between their armies. Storms go off everywhere, but Kal's deathball has dwindled to nearly nothing now.
A single zealot makes it to the 10' expo and kills 2 drones before being killed off by defending hydra. Kal moving out again with another ball of units and tons of observers. Storms blanket the map and wipe out a decent amount of zerg units.
Roo just throwing waves of units at Kal's deathball to thin out his forces, but Kal has storms and reavers now taking out a lot hydras, lurkers, and lings for just 1 archon.
Roo takes his 6th base at the 11. A huge plague lands on nearly all of Kal's units!
Roo waits for the shuttles to pick up the reavers before going for them with scourge, but he misses his chance as the shuttles take a different path. Kal attacks into Roo's 6th at 10 and loses his entire army for almost nothing.
DT sneaks into the 9, but gets spotted by overlords and hydras, getting killed after just 3 drone kills. Roo now attacking into Kal's 6' base with most of his army but gets repelled by 5 reavers, storms and 4 archons.
Roo double expanding once again to the 2 and inner 12 at this point. He's going to be at 9 bases to Kal's 4. Kal is in big trouble now. Roo streaming nonstop units into Kal's nat. It's going to be a 3kill!
Kal desperately pulls all his army to try to defend the nat, but cracklings take it down, and Kal loses most of his army trying to deal with it. More units are streaming in from everywhere toward Kal's bases!
Kal has nothing left to defend, and Roo's units are running over his main! All the shuttles with loaded reavers die to hydras since they were already plagued, and all of Kal's bases are going down simultaneously!
On March 01 2011 20:31 Vasoline73 wrote: I really wish players like Flash could step it up once in awhile so Roo wouldn't have to bust his ass off all the time for KT.
Amazing play by Roo today. He really looked in control of the game for basically the whole game. There was only one point where Kal had a real timing, but defilers managed to pop just in time to save him.
On March 01 2011 20:31 Vasoline73 wrote: I really wish players like Flash could step it up once in awhile so Roo wouldn't have to bust his ass off all the time for KT.
KTRooster imo.
lol KT is getting scary...flash out?! no problem I got this!
wow that was some amazing play by roo! daamn! kt's turning out to be one awesome team, overcoming huge adversity in the beginning of the season to becoming an incredibly solid team. kt hwaiting!
At this rate I'll never get to see Stats play to the least we got Flash, but only 2 games... lol he really can't be sent 1st. His role is THE FINAL BOSS
Well, that was a nice game. Excellent play from Perfective, outplaying Kal by quite a bit.
KT is once again looking like a strong contender in Proleague after a shaky start early on. Even with Flash being eliminated early on in the series, they still had plenty of excellent players to plow through STX, yet they only needed one.
On March 01 2011 20:33 hellbound wrote: What the deuce? How does one sunk everything and still have that much money?
He had a really early 4th and basically never lost any drones to harass, so he could afford to spend the drones on sunken/spore.
Pretty much; that's what happens to P when P-harass fails. Solid defense always > harass-expand style, so when next season's solid defensive maps roll around, I happily expect players like Roo and Flash and Action to do very well ^^
On March 01 2011 20:33 hellbound wrote: What the deuce? How does one sunk everything and still have that much money?
He had a really early 4th and basically never lost any drones to harass, so he could afford to spend the drones on sunken/spore.
Pretty much; that's what happens to P when P-harass fails. Solid defense always > harass-expand style, so when next season's solid defensive maps roll around, I happily expect players like Roo and Flash and Action to do very well ^^
You guys play much Z? Static defences are outrageously expensive for zerg. I thought he was taking the piss dropping 3 colonies at bases behind fortified chokes... He relied on zerglings for so long that would probably explain it better, I will definitely be watching this game again.
On March 01 2011 21:18 OpticalShot wrote: Opened the results expecting Flash Flash Flash Flash and what do I see? ROFLMAO PERFECTIVE
I guess people expected sort of the same thing from yesterday's SKT vs Khan match. :D
Yeah, I expected a Dinotoss RAK but he only killed Bisu.
On-topic: I'm liking this momentum that KT has built. Suddenly from being a team with no depth, they have four potential proleague bonjwas (Flash, Stats, Action, RoO) and BarrackS, who's not that bad recently.
On March 01 2011 21:18 OpticalShot wrote: Opened the results expecting Flash Flash Flash Flash and what do I see? ROFLMAO PERFECTIVE
I guess people expected sort of the same thing from yesterday's SKT vs Khan match. :D
Yeah, I expected a Dinotoss RAK but he only killed Bisu.
On-topic: I'm liking this momentum that KT has built. Suddenly from being a team with no depth, they have four potential proleague bonjwas (Flash, Stats, Action, RoO) and BarrackS, who's not that bad recently.
how could stork RAK....they were up by 3.you mean Bisu.
but you are right every day KT gets close to the Woongjin like team depth.
On March 01 2011 21:18 OpticalShot wrote: Opened the results expecting Flash Flash Flash Flash and what do I see? ROFLMAO PERFECTIVE
I guess people expected sort of the same thing from yesterday's SKT vs Khan match. :D
Yeah, I expected a Dinotoss RAK but he only killed Bisu.
On-topic: I'm liking this momentum that KT has built. Suddenly from being a team with no depth, they have four potential proleague bonjwas (Flash, Stats, Action, RoO) and BarrackS, who's not that bad recently.
how could stork RAK....they were up by 3.you mean Bisu.
but you are right every day KT gets close to the Woongjin like team depth.
Lately, results are so random. I think Flash's game sense is a bit hurt with the lack of play. And it seems like TvZ is the most problematic mu for him now.
Hahahahaha WOW KT has been strong lately. Imo they dont even need to play Flash/Stats anymore since Action and the rookies have been stepping up and kicking ass. Just wonder how STX felt to knock Flash off early only to get rolled by Perfective.
KT better savor this, once winner's league is over its gonna be hell unless they can really keep up with their performance( for some reason i don't see KT replicating this stellar performance in proleague.)
Well played, KT. It seems proleague teams can choose to beat either Flash or his comrades, not both... oh well, I'm going to go watch set two to cheer myself up. ^__^
Wow... with Action performing better and Perfective showing a strong performance KT's lineup looks fierce again, especially when opposing teams have to deal with Terran, Protoss, and now Zerg when preparing.
Nice to see another guy I was talking about before his television debut do well. He got cheesed out of his debut match and had a rough time after that but these results are promising.
Also, people keep mentioning dream league and such: Does anyone have his exact stats and opponents faced in dream league? One of the reasons Snow was so hyped was because he was practically unbeaten in dream league, I want to know how perfective measures up to see if I should get just as excited.
On March 02 2011 05:50 TwoToneTerran wrote: Also, people keep mentioning dream league and such: Does anyone have his exact stats and opponents faced in dream league? One of the reasons Snow was so hyped was because he was practically unbeaten in dream league, I want to know how perfective measures up to see if I should get just as excited.
On March 02 2011 05:50 TwoToneTerran wrote: Also, people keep mentioning dream league and such: Does anyone have his exact stats and opponents faced in dream league? One of the reasons Snow was so hyped was because he was practically unbeaten in dream league, I want to know how perfective measures up to see if I should get just as excited.
On March 01 2011 20:31 Vasoline73 wrote: I really wish players like Flash could step it up once in awhile so Roo wouldn't have to bust his ass off all the time for KT.
On March 02 2011 08:22 Vasoline73 wrote: ^^^^^^^^^ Time for Flash to retire imo. He had a good run.
lol wtf no way flash just needs to stop thinking he is always invincible -_____-
Are you sure your country isn't actually Romania?
lol "lucky wins" why would i be from romania? are you saying one loss means he should retire and that his 37-5 record in proleague means nothing? wow.. just wow
On March 02 2011 08:22 Vasoline73 wrote: ^^^^^^^^^ Time for Flash to retire imo. He had a good run.
I agree. Flash is a washed up talent who had a few lucky wins, but he can't compete in today's world anymore.
On March 02 2011 09:10 a7choi wrote:
On March 02 2011 08:22 Vasoline73 wrote: ^^^^^^^^^ Time for Flash to retire imo. He had a good run.
lol wtf no way flash just needs to stop thinking he is always invincible -_____-
Are you sure your country isn't actually Romania?
lol "lucky wins" why would i be from romania? are you saying one loss means he should retire and that his 37-5 record in proleague means nothing? wow.. just wow
The stats don't lie. The past doesn't matter when Flash has only a 50% win rate this round. He's washed up garbage, plus his teammates have had to carry him for all of Round 4 so far.
I've always been a fan of Flash, but there comes a time when you have to understand that the player we once admired just can't cut it anymore. Fortunately KT has Perfective to carry them from now on.
On March 02 2011 08:22 Vasoline73 wrote: ^^^^^^^^^ Time for Flash to retire imo. He had a good run.
I agree. Flash is a washed up talent who had a few lucky wins, but he can't compete in today's world anymore.
On March 02 2011 09:10 a7choi wrote:
On March 02 2011 08:22 Vasoline73 wrote: ^^^^^^^^^ Time for Flash to retire imo. He had a good run.
lol wtf no way flash just needs to stop thinking he is always invincible -_____-
Are you sure your country isn't actually Romania?
lol "lucky wins" why would i be from romania? are you saying one loss means he should retire and that his 37-5 record in proleague means nothing? wow.. just wow
The stats don't lie. The past doesn't matter when Flash has only a 50% win rate this round. He's washed up garbage, plus his teammates have had to carry him for all of Round 4 so far.
I've always been a fan of Flash, but there comes a time when you have to understand that the player we once admired just can't cut it anymore. Fortunately KT has Perfective to carry them from now on.
flash carried his team to victory when they needed him to every time in round 3 seriously, you can't say flash is garbage after owning in the first three rounds and going 1-1 in 2 games. 1 loss doesn't reveal that the player is no good anymore.. maybe it's true that he doesn't have that legendary skill anymore but you can't determine that off of one loss.
Choi, they're being sarcastic. The "Romania" thing is that romanians have a knack for not getting incredibly, incredibly obvious sarcasm over the internet, which is what you're not getting. Notice all the KT icons on the people saying this -- they fully know that Flash is still an amazing player and are sarcastically mocking his anti-fans by overblowing his losses sarcastically. Also, by trolling other flash fans who don't get sarcasm.
On March 02 2011 09:53 TwoToneTerran wrote: Choi, they're being sarcastic. The "Romania" thing is that romanians have a knack for not getting incredibly, incredibly obvious sarcasm over the internet, which is what you're not getting. Notice all the KT icons on the people saying this -- they fully know that Flash is still an amazing player and are sarcastically mocking his anti-fans by overblowing his losses sarcastically. Also, by trolling other flash fans who don't get sarcasm.
On March 02 2011 09:53 TwoToneTerran wrote: Choi, they're being sarcastic. The "Romania" thing is that romanians have a knack for not getting incredibly, incredibly obvious sarcasm over the internet, which is what you're not getting. Notice all the KT icons on the people saying this -- they fully know that Flash is still an amazing player and are sarcastically mocking his anti-fans by overblowing his losses sarcastically. Also, by trolling other flash fans who don't get sarcasm.
but they seemed so serious TT
Nope, not even a little. Next time just assume when someone with a KT icon says "Flash should retire, he's washedup!" that they're joking.
This is why I hate Terran, Calm up 4 bases to 2 and Flash still manages to even up the game mid-way. Zerg 2 base vs Terran 2 base? Terran instant win no discussion.
On March 02 2011 13:24 zenMaster wrote: This is why I hate Terran, Calm up 4 bases to 2 and Flash still manages to even up the game mid-way. Zerg 2 base vs Terran 2 base? Terran instant win no discussion.
I just finished my finals and am mentally drained, but here's the gist of Flash's interview. I can't find the interview for roo on both PLU and WFBrood, sadly enough. Maybe someone can help with that?
Q: You were left with regrets even though you were sent first. A: I was already prepared to be sent out first today; Calm played too well and I was unable to make use of this opportunity. I will definitely AK the next time I'm the first to be sent out.
Q: You must not have seen the play in the 2nd match during practice. A: I assumed that Kal would be sent out but I was wrong, I shouldn't have eliminated the possibility of a TvZ for the second map. Even if I didn't practice for specifically for TvZ, I practice my fundamentals heavily in practice and feel confident because of that. However, I was at a complete loss in the face of Calm's mind game.
Q: How's the progress of your wrist's rehabilitation? A: I went through a lot of sessions of acupuncture at the korean hospital, but the there doesn't seem to be much progress. I am really worried about this. I've been practicing constantly without much trouble, but the individual leagues are starting soon and the practice load will definitely increase, which is a cause for worry. Hence, I'm thankful towards my team mates for playing so well recently that I need not be sent out. Although my wrist is still giving me difficulties, I have confidence in my ability to play well consistently. Since the team is playing so well, there are no problems.
dang it, I was thinking the same thing too. After such a long time not hearing from Flash about his wrist, who would have thought the situation hadn't improved by then?
It can only improve by stoping. The tendons are probably already a bit damaged, I would guess. Acunpuncture doesn't do anything for such things. It can't be that bad if he can play, but it won't get much better without stoping.
On March 02 2011 11:09 Release wrote: all sarcasm aside, was Flash playing seriously vs Calm? Seems more like a joke of a match.
the usual valk vs lurker opening.
Didn't Flash win against Kwanro during last season's WL despite the same BO loss?
On March 03 2011 03:54 Yggdrasil Leaf wrote: It can only improve by stoping. The tendons are probably already a bit damaged, I would guess. Acunpuncture doesn't do anything for such things. It can't be that bad if he can play, but it won't get much better without stoping.
Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation. The fact that several previously unknown or lowly rated players are killing well known players left and right in the proleague testifies to that.
Further damage to the wrist ligament can lead to more severe complications, which may happen if he makes dual leagues and digs deep again. He may even get carpal tunnel like GGplay.
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
He actually didn't start performing after the second vacation. It pretty much didn't help. Flash taking a break could work, but that would take a while.
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
He actually didn't start performing after the second vacation. It pretty much didn't help. Flash taking a break could work, but that would take a while.
Bisu was taking a vacation for mental reasons through which, it could be argued, one could endure and survive without the loss of mechanical skill caused by having a break. Physical injury is entirely different; if the injury is serious enough, as it seems to be for Flash, it will never heal until rested. Flash's performance will be impeded by this nagging injury, he will drop games, and his mental state will be affected. He should let it heal now rather than dragging it out, continually re-injuring the wrist, and risking more permanent damage.
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
He actually didn't start performing after the second vacation. It pretty much didn't help. Flash taking a break could work, but that would take a while.
Bisu was taking a vacation for mental reasons through which, it could be argued, one could endure and survive without the loss of mechanical skill caused by having a break. Physical injury is entirely different; if the injury is serious enough, as it seems to be for Flash, it will never heal until rested. Flash's performance will be impeded by this nagging injury, he will drop games, and his mental state will be affected. He should let it heal now rather than dragging it out, continually re-injuring the wrist, and risking more permanent damage.
problem is: there is no mechanical skill in protoss play, so bisus vacation didnt affect his play much. protoss dont micro. but terran or even more zerg players fear that the mechanical skill-level could fall...
On March 03 2011 12:25 Jragon wrote: ROOFL (STX roofl after losing to KT?)
On March 03 2011 11:09 Lightwip wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:31 McDonalds wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:13 Lightwip wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:22 McDonalds wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
He actually didn't start performing after the second vacation. It pretty much didn't help. Flash taking a break could work, but that would take a while.
Bisu was taking a vacation for mental reasons through which, it could be argued, one could endure and survive without the loss of mechanical skill caused by having a break. Physical injury is entirely different; if the injury is serious enough, as it seems to be for Flash, it will never heal until rested. Flash's performance will be impeded by this nagging injury, he will drop games, and his mental state will be affected. He should let it heal now rather than dragging it out, continually re-injuring the wrist, and risking more permanent damage.
problem is: there is no mechanical skill in protoss play, so bisus vacation didnt affect his play much. protoss dont micro. but terran or even more zerg players fear that the mechanical skill-level could fall...
Don't worry, terran doesn't have any need for mechanical skill either, it's not that hard to siege tanks and wait for the opponent to suicide into them. Certainly less than P/Z, and you also get the imbalance advantage. + Show Spoiler +
On March 03 2011 12:25 Jragon wrote: ROOFL (STX roofl after losing to KT?)
On March 03 2011 11:09 Lightwip wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:31 McDonalds wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:13 Lightwip wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:22 McDonalds wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
He actually didn't start performing after the second vacation. It pretty much didn't help. Flash taking a break could work, but that would take a while.
Bisu was taking a vacation for mental reasons through which, it could be argued, one could endure and survive without the loss of mechanical skill caused by having a break. Physical injury is entirely different; if the injury is serious enough, as it seems to be for Flash, it will never heal until rested. Flash's performance will be impeded by this nagging injury, he will drop games, and his mental state will be affected. He should let it heal now rather than dragging it out, continually re-injuring the wrist, and risking more permanent damage.
problem is: there is no mechanical skill in protoss play, so bisus vacation didnt affect his play much. protoss dont micro. but terran or even more zerg players fear that the mechanical skill-level could fall...
Don't worry, terran doesn't have any need for mechanical skill either, it's not that hard to siege tanks and wait for the opponent to suicide into them. Certainly less than P/Z, and you also get the imbalance advantage. + Show Spoiler +
Why did you find it necessary to post this?
considering your points, flash is probably the only terran who won't be affected to much by a break. guess he should really do it... + Show Spoiler +
i smiled when i read your answer. you... didn't... smile? at all?
On March 03 2011 12:25 Jragon wrote: ROOFL (STX roofl after losing to KT?)
On March 03 2011 11:09 Lightwip wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:31 McDonalds wrote:
On March 03 2011 10:13 Lightwip wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:22 McDonalds wrote:
On March 03 2011 04:12 dukethegold wrote: Considering the skill level difference between progamers is "paper thin", no progamer can risk a vacation.
Except for Bisu, right?
The first time he took a vacation, he was by far the better player. The second time, he was slumping anyways.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. He went on a vacation specifically because he was having issues performing. Then he came back and showed improvement. Flash has a debilitating injury that needs time to heal.
He actually didn't start performing after the second vacation. It pretty much didn't help. Flash taking a break could work, but that would take a while.
Bisu was taking a vacation for mental reasons through which, it could be argued, one could endure and survive without the loss of mechanical skill caused by having a break. Physical injury is entirely different; if the injury is serious enough, as it seems to be for Flash, it will never heal until rested. Flash's performance will be impeded by this nagging injury, he will drop games, and his mental state will be affected. He should let it heal now rather than dragging it out, continually re-injuring the wrist, and risking more permanent damage.
problem is: there is no mechanical skill in protoss play, so bisus vacation didnt affect his play much. protoss dont micro. but terran or even more zerg players fear that the mechanical skill-level could fall...
Don't worry, terran doesn't have any need for mechanical skill either, it's not that hard to siege tanks and wait for the opponent to suicide into them. Certainly less than P/Z, and you also get the imbalance advantage. + Show Spoiler +
Why did you find it necessary to post this?
considering your points, flash is probably the only terran who won't be affected to much by a break. guess he should really do it... + Show Spoiler +
i smiled when i read your answer. you... didn't... smile? at all?
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