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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 13 2010 06:57 GMT
#541
On November 13 2010 15:54 radialis wrote:
ok i'm going to be honest here... i was disappointed from both players. first of all, why would you 12 hatch zvz on a 3 player map? secondly, what was with all the spores? why not 1 sunken at the front?

also, when JD's lung rush failed why didn't he expand?

that's not to say this wasn't exciting as hell, but there were a few WTF moments


Why would you NOT put down Spores when Mutalisk are coming and you have no Spire?
That's why you call it a FAILED ling rush, he is commited, if he expand ZerO will get Spires out in time and kill JD (Zeglings are the only thing that JD has).
Jesus that was the craziest ZvZ I've ever seen! Stop saying that both of them played bad!
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
November 13 2010 06:57 GMT
#542
On November 13 2010 15:55 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:55 Murderotica wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 7?

I don't understand anything anymore (28)
 
60%

Fuck yes (16)
 
34%

I don't have good taste in BW (3)
 
6%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 7?

(Vote): Fuck yes
(Vote): I don't understand anything anymore
(Vote): I don't have good taste in BW





Why are people unable to polsl that dont spoil the game?

What did that spoil, exactly? It being good? Special? A must watch? I think that's information you should get from a RC section.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
November 13 2010 06:57 GMT
#543
On November 13 2010 15:57 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:55 Fenrax wrote:
On November 13 2010 15:55 Murderotica wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 7?

I don't understand anything anymore (28)
 
60%

Fuck yes (16)
 
34%

I don't have good taste in BW (3)
 
6%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 7?

(Vote): Fuck yes
(Vote): I don't understand anything anymore
(Vote): I don't have good taste in BW





Why are people unable to polsl that dont spoil the game?

What did that spoil, exactly? It being good? Special? A must watch? I think that's information you should get from a RC section.

Thank you.
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bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
November 13 2010 06:58 GMT
#544
Couldn't Jaedong have A. Expanded or B. Destroyed the nat (where the lair was) and just out turtled zero? After he split the nat and main, zero lost most of his drones so they were on even footing it seemed...
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 06:58:49
November 13 2010 06:58 GMT
#545
It was part of the game plan. Really nukes Jaedong's BFF Lomo to put him at more rage than the normal tyrant rage, which cause Jaedong to do the proxy sunken.

All part of the plan, yup <.<
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 06:59:05
November 13 2010 06:58 GMT
#546
On November 13 2010 15:55 Doraemon wrote:
man. jd really should have just taking out that nat >< arghhh

If he did he would have just lost. He had less of everything except tech. Taking the nat would have been suicide.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 13 2010 06:58 GMT
#547
Zero just didn't cave in to the pressure of playing the Dong. Well done!
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
November 13 2010 06:58 GMT
#548
On November 13 2010 15:56 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:54 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Someone please explain why JD lost 12 hatch vs 9 pool?

Jaedong did a muta/ling/offensive sunken all in. He used a lot of his drones to make buildings and apparently didn't bother to make more. Since ZerO expanded fast and managed to miraculously hold, he was able to make spores with his econ, rendering Jaedong's mutas close to useless. Jaedong made a spirited attack with zerglings but at soon as ZerO's spire went up and mutas came out, it was over for Jaedong's last all in attack.


thanks for explaining.
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dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
November 13 2010 06:59 GMT
#549
too bad JD. next time
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 07:00:05
November 13 2010 06:59 GMT
#550
On November 13 2010 15:58 bludragen88 wrote:
Couldn't Jaedong have A. Expanded or B. Destroyed the nat (where the lair was) and just out turtled zero? After he split the nat and main, zero lost most of his drones so they were on even footing it seemed...

JD cut drones hard, and that ling runby from Zero killed several of his drones so he couldn't expand.
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radialis
Profile Joined November 2010
726 Posts
November 13 2010 06:59 GMT
#551
On November 13 2010 15:57 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:54 radialis wrote:
ok i'm going to be honest here... i was disappointed from both players. first of all, why would you 12 hatch zvz on a 3 player map? secondly, what was with all the spores? why not 1 sunken at the front?

also, when JD's lung rush failed why didn't he expand?

that's not to say this wasn't exciting as hell, but there were a few WTF moments


Why would you NOT put down Spores when Mutalisk are coming and you have no Spire?
That's why you call it a FAILED ling rush, he is commited, if he expand ZerO will get Spires out in time and kill JD (Zeglings are the only thing that JD has).
Jesus that was the craziest ZvZ I've ever seen! Stop saying that both of them played bad!

zero put down like 4 spores wtf is that? there is such thing is overkill

his spore placement also wasn't great (at his nat). i think he panicked.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 13 2010 06:59 GMT
#552
On November 13 2010 15:57 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:56 Fenrax wrote:
Poll: Do you recommend Game 7?

Yes (37)
 
90%

No (4)
 
10%

Watch if you have time (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend Game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Watch if you have time




Why are people unable to post polls that aren't completely bland?

We don't need to editorialize the polls. Frankly I got tired of joke polls after the first one I saw and that was months ago.
High five :---)
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
November 13 2010 07:00 GMT
#553
On November 13 2010 15:55 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:55 Murderotica wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 7?

I don't understand anything anymore (28)
 
60%

Fuck yes (16)
 
34%

I don't have good taste in BW (3)
 
6%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 7?

(Vote): Fuck yes
(Vote): I don't understand anything anymore
(Vote): I don't have good taste in BW





Why are people unable to polsl that dont spoil the game?


My apologies, I removed the poll from the OP, my emotions took over when I made that poll :<
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 13 2010 07:00 GMT
#554
On November 13 2010 15:58 bludragen88 wrote:
Couldn't Jaedong have A. Expanded or B. Destroyed the nat (where the lair was) and just out turtled zero? After he split the nat and main, zero lost most of his drones so they were on even footing it seemed...


Alright had spires up (no point anymore in destroying it). ZerO technically had a better economy with more drones = better defence against JD. ZerO JUST had to hold off the initial Mutas until his pops up and with 12 hatch from him, his economy will be stronger. You also have to know that JD had one hatch while ZerO had 2 so he can outproduce JD in numbers.
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blueblimp
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada297 Posts
November 13 2010 07:00 GMT
#555
On November 13 2010 15:56 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:55 Fenrax wrote:
On November 13 2010 15:55 Murderotica wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 7?

I don't understand anything anymore (28)
 
60%

Fuck yes (16)
 
34%

I don't have good taste in BW (3)
 
6%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 7?

(Vote): Fuck yes
(Vote): I don't understand anything anymore
(Vote): I don't have good taste in BW





Why are people unable to polsl that dont spoil the game?

How is this a spoiler?


Because "I don't understand anything anymore" obviously means something surprising happens. Given that it's a 9p vs 12h game, that obviously means the 12h wins. This completely defeats the point of even having recommended games in the first place. (The point isn't to feel good clicking the button.)
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 07:00:46
November 13 2010 07:00 GMT
#556
On November 13 2010 15:59 McDonalds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:57 Murderotica wrote:
On November 13 2010 15:56 Fenrax wrote:
Poll: Do you recommend Game 7?

Yes (37)
 
90%

No (4)
 
10%

Watch if you have time (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Do you recommend Game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Watch if you have time




Why are people unable to post polls that aren't completely bland?

We don't need to editorialize the polls. Frankly I got tired of joke polls after the first one I saw and that was months ago.

Different strokes for different folks, I like it when polls express how epic a game was beyond just numbers
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McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 13 2010 07:00 GMT
#557
On November 13 2010 15:57 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:55 Fenrax wrote:
On November 13 2010 15:55 Murderotica wrote:
Poll: Recommend game 7?

I don't understand anything anymore (28)
 
60%

Fuck yes (16)
 
34%

I don't have good taste in BW (3)
 
6%

47 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 7?

(Vote): Fuck yes
(Vote): I don't understand anything anymore
(Vote): I don't have good taste in BW





Why are people unable to polsl that dont spoil the game?

What did that spoil, exactly? It being good? Special? A must watch? I think that's information you should get from a RC section.

I think he was trying to say that the poll implies an upset and anyone who knows the players will know what that means.
High five :---)
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
November 13 2010 07:01 GMT
#558

On November 13 2010 15:56 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2010 15:54 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Someone please explain why JD lost 12 hatch vs 9 pool?

Jaedong did a muta/ling/offensive sunken all in. He used a lot of his drones to make buildings and apparently didn't bother to make more. Since ZerO expanded fast and managed to miraculously hold, he was able to make spores with his econ, rendering Jaedong's mutas close to useless. Jaedong made a spirited attack with zerglings but at soon as ZerO's spire went up and mutas came out, it was over for Jaedong's last all in attack.


Thanks for the explanation. Just wondering, since Zero built like 6 spores, couldn't JD have expanded during that time?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
November 13 2010 07:01 GMT
#559
Basically for those of you who don't understand: JD was in a terrible position after the first attack failed. There wasn't much he could do to win at that point but being JD he still gave it a pretty good shot.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
November 13 2010 07:01 GMT
#560
SICKKKK ace match thought JD had it wow
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