• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 15:01
CET 21:01
KST 05:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion6Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Video Footage from 2005: The Birth of G2 in Spain BW General Discussion BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1259 users

[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs. Hwaseung Oz

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 29 30 31 Next All
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 21:54:13
November 11 2010 02:00 GMT
#1
[image loading]

My hella sketch MS Paint banner :> for my first thread. Click it to learn the destiny of PL


2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1 Week 5 (MBC) Saturday November 13 13:00 KST




Predictions:+ Show Spoiler +

Woongjin Stars are taking the season by storm. All they need to guarantee 2nd place at the end of round 1 is a Win against last place Hwaseung OZ, or STX SouL at 3rd (who could potentially beat SKT, putting themselves in a position to steal 2nd - should they beat Woongjin next week). But that should say it all. Woongjin just convincingly took down the defending PL champions KT Rolster 4-2, sending a message that they mean business and there's no more room for doubts about this season's Woongjin Stars. OZ? Their results mean two things:
1.) The Air Force ACE curse continues
2.) The Bo7 format has given Jaedong Oz new meaning

Without further intro, my predictions:
(T)PianO <Benzene> (Z)Princess
(Z)ZerO<Empire of the Sun>(T)HiyA
(P)free <Central Plains> (P)PerfectMan
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey <Grand Line SE> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Really <Icarus> (P)BackHo


Explanations: Set 1:Oz's only wins on Benzene are from Princess (2-0 this round on Benzene) so it seems like an obvious choice for them. Sure, Jaedong can win on any of these maps (except for maybe Central Plains where both of his losses this round have come from), but I think they're going to want to save him for where they'll need him the most and he's shown the most success. Woongjin has plenty of options for who to open since their wins on Benzene are spread all over, and they have plenty of players who can deal with Princess. I think PianO is the most optimal choice however since he's a TvZ specialist and his results so far this season have affirmed this. He's 2-0 TvZ with kills on Hyuk, and most recently Action on this same map. PianO is in form, he should take this game.

Set 2: Hiya is 1-6 so far with his only win on Fortress (not in this map pool). But we should cut Hiya some slack considering a handful of those losses were from great players, not the least of which was Flash on EotS. ZerO just displayed an amazing comback on EotS against Hoejja and just recently beat Hiya in the Ro16 of the last OSL. ZerO is also 3-0 head-to-head overall with Hiya, and has been pretty solid this round so far (6-2 overall, 2-0 against Terran.) If that wasn't enough the layout of EotS favors ZerO's defensive management style. Sorry Hiya, the cards have really been stacked against you this round :/

Set 3: Like I said earlier, both of JD's losses are on central plains so the Oz coach probably isn't going to send him out just yet. This map has been heavy P, with most of the MUs being PvP. Backho is 0-2 on it however, with Perfectman 1-0, what do they have to lose? Answer: Another game. Free is 2-1, with his loss against BeSt being dubbed Gotw for the above par play in that game. Free is coming off a win over Tempest. While he isn't showing absolute solid play, it's been good enough to beat Perfectman. This might be the game borqke up the match though, it's all assuming both players maintain the status quo.

Set 4: This is probably going to be the match to watch. At this point Stars are almost assuredly going to be up 3-0. The Tyrant will get off his throne to bring forth annihilation. And the records tell us he should - Jaedong is 2-0 this round on Grand Line SE; 10-3 overall on the map, and 5-1 ZvZ out of those 13 games. Stars will likely choose Neo.G_Bonjwa to make his appearance, as he so often has, on this map. He's 1-1 on it this round with a recent disappointing loss to Flash. His ZvT is what's stellar, in particular on this map. However, he hasn't played much ZvZ on it (only once in a loss to great) so given Jaedong being the dong and his redic. stats in the MU and map, we can confirm the likelihood of Jaedong taking this with relative ease.

Set 5: Pretty much everyone left on Oz has lost on Icarus(Lomo and Killer) except for Backho who has yet to play on it, so it's safe to say he'll be sent. Given Backho's dismal results this round, Woongjin could either send Crazy-Hydra or Really since they're both 1-0 on Icarus, however since Really has been playing slightly better and is generally more solid he'll finish the match for Woongjin. Really's TvP is his best MU, not much to this game. Maybe we'll see some optical flares :D

[image loading]Woongjin Stars 4-1 Hwaseung OZ[image loading]
Cmon Oz fanboys, you just gotta look at the standings and the last time these teams met in GSM. (ZerO's all-kill, see Hype pics below :3)








[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Woongjin Stars vs Hwaseung OZ[image loading]

Set 1: (Z)Crazy-Hydra Benzene (Z)Jaedong
Set 2: (Z)ZerO Empire of the Sun (T)HiyA
Set 3: (P)freeCentral Plains (P)PerfectMan
Set 4: (T)PianO Grand Line SE(Z)Killer
Set 5: (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey Icarus (Z)Princess
Set 6: (T)Really Circuit Breaker (T)Lomo
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 7: (Z)ZerO Aztec (Z)Jaedong





[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Woongjin Stars vs Hwaseung OZ[image loading]

Set 1: (Z)Crazy-Hydra Benzene (Z)Jaedong
Set 2: (Z)ZerO Empire of the Sun(T)HiyA
Set 3: (P)free Central Plains(P)PerfectMan
Set 4: (T)PianO Grand Line SE(Z)Killer
Set 5: (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey Icarus (Z)Princess
Set 6: (T)Really Circuit Breaker (T)Lomo
Set 7: (Z)ZerO Aztec (Z)Jaedong



[image loading]Woongjin Stars :4 vs 3!! Hwaseung OZ[image loading]



[image loading]


+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend game 1?

Yes (7)
 
47%

No (5)
 
33%

Check out if you have time (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend game 2?

No (8)
 
62%

Yes (4)
 
31%

Check it out if you have time (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend game 3?

No (10)
 
59%

Yes! (4)
 
24%

Check it out if you have time (3)
 
18%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 3?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Recommend Game 4?

Yes (13)
 
62%

No (8)
 
38%

Check it out if you have time (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time



+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Poll: Recommend game 5?

No (10)
 
67%

Check it out if you have time (3)
 
20%

Yes (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Note: poll should say game 6, not 5
Poll: Recommend Game 5?

Yes (28)
 
88%

Check it out if you have time (3)
 
9%

No (1)
 
3%

32 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
My original poll had spoilers, my apologies. But for the love of God watch this game. Incredibly intense game!




Woongjin Hype:
[image loading]

credit to supernovamaniac


Oz Hype:
[image loading]


Poll: Who's going to win the match?

Hwaseung Oz (33)
 
50%

Woongjin Stars (33)
 
50%

66 total votes

Your vote: Who's going to win the match?

(Vote): Hwaseung Oz
(Vote): Woongjin Stars



How to watch: No actual streams . Watch little box at bottom right corner or Craton's stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Craton


Interview: Pretty funny interview, check it out lulz http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168810
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
November 11 2010 03:28 GMT
#2
You spelled hwaseung wrong in the title :0
( ・´ー・`)
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
November 11 2010 03:37 GMT
#3
I would, rofl. Fixed
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 11 2010 03:40 GMT
#4
lololol very nice banner
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
November 11 2010 04:07 GMT
#5
Stars is going to try and snipe the Dong in a ZvZ. Stars is going to fail.

Predictions:
(T)PianO > (Z)Princess
(T)Really < (Z)Killer
(P)free < (P)BackHo
(Z)Crazy-Hydra < (Z)Jaedong
(Z)ZerO > (T)HiyA
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey > (P)PerfectMan
(Z)ZerO < (Z)Jaedong
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 11 2010 04:29 GMT
#6
I think Stars is going to win 4-1.
Liquipedia
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
November 11 2010 04:54 GMT
#7
stars 4-1, zero vs jaedong in an epic hive tech ZvZ please
Writer
rigelq
Profile Joined May 2010
United States230 Posts
November 11 2010 04:56 GMT
#8
OMG yes! my two favorite teams! i wanna see some epic zvz!
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 11 2010 05:31 GMT
#9
I picked Stars for my liquidbet so.. stars!
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 14:32:45
November 11 2010 14:30 GMT
#10
Predicting 4:2 loss for Oz, but voted for Oz anyways =[
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
November 11 2010 15:57 GMT
#11
oz to take this 4-2 imo
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 11 2010 16:31 GMT
#12
I just don't see Oz getting more than 1 or maybe 2 games out of this unless Hiya comes out of his slump.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 11 2010 16:49 GMT
#13
Unless the rest of Oz is willing to step up and rise to the level of PerfectMan, I just don't see them making it out of a match like this alive.
High five :---)
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 11 2010 16:50 GMT
#14
Hoping to see the Dong vs SoulKey lol.
Dongrape incoming...
Khassar de Templari
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 11 2010 17:15 GMT
#15
I wish Oz really will show tongue to that easy win's expectations from Woongjin
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 17:31:01
November 11 2010 17:28 GMT
#16
ahh, Stars have a very Zerg-heavy line-up yes?

I hope Soulkey, Zero and Crazy Hydra face JD, killer and Princess, who are all monsters of zvz

or probably some of the Zergs gets Really, who has less than 40% wins TvZ (omfg what an oddity for a terran)

In ace match I see no one who could compete with JD. Even free can't I think. And all other decent players (despite him and Really who's oddly bad at TvZ) are zergs, we all know how much of an auto-loss this is vs JD.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 17:57:09
November 11 2010 17:50 GMT
#17
(T)PianO > (P)PerfectMan
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey >>>>> (T)HiyA
(Z)ZerO > (P)BackHo
(P)free > (Z)Jaedong

Woongjin Stars will 4-0 Hwaseung OEZ.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
November 11 2010 19:16 GMT
#18
Gogo Stars, down with Hwaseung.
觀過斯知仁矣.
M!SHA
Profile Joined December 2009
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 22:49:06
November 11 2010 22:48 GMT
#19
Woongjing 4-1 Oz ezpz



only way oz can win is to somehow drag this into ace match
ZerO Fighting@#!@
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 23:03:32
November 11 2010 23:03 GMT
#20
clearly a few OZ fanboys don't remember GSM

+ Show Spoiler +
zero all-kill hwaseung
Writer
1 2 3 4 5 29 30 31 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
IPSL
20:00
Grand Finals
Dewalt vs Sziky
Liquipedia
BSL 21
20:00
Non-Korean Championship - D4
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 509
IndyStarCraft 188
JuggernautJason74
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2138
Shuttle 642
ZZZero.O 88
Mini 65
910 29
Dota 2
Gorgc8319
Counter-Strike
fl0m2777
byalli2679
Other Games
FrodaN6754
summit1g4663
Grubby3748
Liquid`RaSZi2713
B2W.Neo900
crisheroes418
Liquid`Hasu302
Harstem290
ToD170
ArmadaUGS154
mouzStarbuck139
Mew2King16
Railgan1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2596
EGCTV1237
StarCraft 2
angryscii 28
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 41
• Reevou 22
• Laughngamez YouTube
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix10
• Airneanach7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2939
• TFBlade966
Other Games
• imaqtpie2476
• Shiphtur286
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
12h 59m
Wardi Open
15h 59m
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 59m
OSC
1d 14h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Big Brain Bouts
4 days
Serral vs TBD
BSL 21
5 days
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.