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[SPL] Woongjin Stars vs. Hwaseung Oz

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Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-13 21:54:13
November 11 2010 02:00 GMT
#1
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My hella sketch MS Paint banner :> for my first thread. Click it to learn the destiny of PL


2010-2011 Shinhan Bank Proleague Round 1 Week 5 (MBC) Saturday November 13 13:00 KST




Predictions:+ Show Spoiler +

Woongjin Stars are taking the season by storm. All they need to guarantee 2nd place at the end of round 1 is a Win against last place Hwaseung OZ, or STX SouL at 3rd (who could potentially beat SKT, putting themselves in a position to steal 2nd - should they beat Woongjin next week). But that should say it all. Woongjin just convincingly took down the defending PL champions KT Rolster 4-2, sending a message that they mean business and there's no more room for doubts about this season's Woongjin Stars. OZ? Their results mean two things:
1.) The Air Force ACE curse continues
2.) The Bo7 format has given Jaedong Oz new meaning

Without further intro, my predictions:
(T)PianO <Benzene> (Z)Princess
(Z)ZerO<Empire of the Sun>(T)HiyA
(P)free <Central Plains> (P)PerfectMan
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey <Grand Line SE> (Z)Jaedong
(T)Really <Icarus> (P)BackHo


Explanations: Set 1:Oz's only wins on Benzene are from Princess (2-0 this round on Benzene) so it seems like an obvious choice for them. Sure, Jaedong can win on any of these maps (except for maybe Central Plains where both of his losses this round have come from), but I think they're going to want to save him for where they'll need him the most and he's shown the most success. Woongjin has plenty of options for who to open since their wins on Benzene are spread all over, and they have plenty of players who can deal with Princess. I think PianO is the most optimal choice however since he's a TvZ specialist and his results so far this season have affirmed this. He's 2-0 TvZ with kills on Hyuk, and most recently Action on this same map. PianO is in form, he should take this game.

Set 2: Hiya is 1-6 so far with his only win on Fortress (not in this map pool). But we should cut Hiya some slack considering a handful of those losses were from great players, not the least of which was Flash on EotS. ZerO just displayed an amazing comback on EotS against Hoejja and just recently beat Hiya in the Ro16 of the last OSL. ZerO is also 3-0 head-to-head overall with Hiya, and has been pretty solid this round so far (6-2 overall, 2-0 against Terran.) If that wasn't enough the layout of EotS favors ZerO's defensive management style. Sorry Hiya, the cards have really been stacked against you this round :/

Set 3: Like I said earlier, both of JD's losses are on central plains so the Oz coach probably isn't going to send him out just yet. This map has been heavy P, with most of the MUs being PvP. Backho is 0-2 on it however, with Perfectman 1-0, what do they have to lose? Answer: Another game. Free is 2-1, with his loss against BeSt being dubbed Gotw for the above par play in that game. Free is coming off a win over Tempest. While he isn't showing absolute solid play, it's been good enough to beat Perfectman. This might be the game borqke up the match though, it's all assuming both players maintain the status quo.

Set 4: This is probably going to be the match to watch. At this point Stars are almost assuredly going to be up 3-0. The Tyrant will get off his throne to bring forth annihilation. And the records tell us he should - Jaedong is 2-0 this round on Grand Line SE; 10-3 overall on the map, and 5-1 ZvZ out of those 13 games. Stars will likely choose Neo.G_Bonjwa to make his appearance, as he so often has, on this map. He's 1-1 on it this round with a recent disappointing loss to Flash. His ZvT is what's stellar, in particular on this map. However, he hasn't played much ZvZ on it (only once in a loss to great) so given Jaedong being the dong and his redic. stats in the MU and map, we can confirm the likelihood of Jaedong taking this with relative ease.

Set 5: Pretty much everyone left on Oz has lost on Icarus(Lomo and Killer) except for Backho who has yet to play on it, so it's safe to say he'll be sent. Given Backho's dismal results this round, Woongjin could either send Crazy-Hydra or Really since they're both 1-0 on Icarus, however since Really has been playing slightly better and is generally more solid he'll finish the match for Woongjin. Really's TvP is his best MU, not much to this game. Maybe we'll see some optical flares :D

[image loading]Woongjin Stars 4-1 Hwaseung OZ[image loading]
Cmon Oz fanboys, you just gotta look at the standings and the last time these teams met in GSM. (ZerO's all-kill, see Hype pics below :3)








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[image loading]Woongjin Stars vs Hwaseung OZ[image loading]

Set 1: (Z)Crazy-Hydra Benzene (Z)Jaedong
Set 2: (Z)ZerO Empire of the Sun (T)HiyA
Set 3: (P)freeCentral Plains (P)PerfectMan
Set 4: (T)PianO Grand Line SE(Z)Killer
Set 5: (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey Icarus (Z)Princess
Set 6: (T)Really Circuit Breaker (T)Lomo
+ Show Spoiler +
Set 7: (Z)ZerO Aztec (Z)Jaedong





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+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]Woongjin Stars vs Hwaseung OZ[image loading]

Set 1: (Z)Crazy-Hydra Benzene (Z)Jaedong
Set 2: (Z)ZerO Empire of the Sun(T)HiyA
Set 3: (P)free Central Plains(P)PerfectMan
Set 4: (T)PianO Grand Line SE(Z)Killer
Set 5: (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey Icarus (Z)Princess
Set 6: (T)Really Circuit Breaker (T)Lomo
Set 7: (Z)ZerO Aztec (Z)Jaedong



[image loading]Woongjin Stars :4 vs 3!! Hwaseung OZ[image loading]



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+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Poll: Recommend game 1?

Yes (7)
 
47%

No (5)
 
33%

Check out if you have time (3)
 
20%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Poll: Recommend game 2?

No (8)
 
62%

Yes (4)
 
31%

Check it out if you have time (1)
 
8%

13 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
Poll: Recommend game 3?

No (10)
 
59%

Yes! (4)
 
24%

Check it out if you have time (3)
 
18%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 3?

(Vote): Yes!
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
Poll: Recommend Game 4?

Yes (13)
 
62%

No (8)
 
38%

Check it out if you have time (0)
 
0%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time



+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Poll: Recommend game 5?

No (10)
 
67%

Check it out if you have time (3)
 
20%

Yes (2)
 
13%

15 total votes

Your vote: Recommend game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Note: poll should say game 6, not 5
Poll: Recommend Game 5?

Yes (28)
 
88%

Check it out if you have time (3)
 
9%

No (1)
 
3%

32 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Game 7] +
My original poll had spoilers, my apologies. But for the love of God watch this game. Incredibly intense game!




Woongjin Hype:
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credit to supernovamaniac


Oz Hype:
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Poll: Who's going to win the match?

Hwaseung Oz (33)
 
50%

Woongjin Stars (33)
 
50%

66 total votes

Your vote: Who's going to win the match?

(Vote): Hwaseung Oz
(Vote): Woongjin Stars



How to watch: No actual streams . Watch little box at bottom right corner or Craton's stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Craton


Interview: Pretty funny interview, check it out lulz http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168810
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
November 11 2010 03:28 GMT
#2
You spelled hwaseung wrong in the title :0
( ・´ー・`)
Doughboy
Profile Joined April 2010
United States721 Posts
November 11 2010 03:37 GMT
#3
I would, rofl. Fixed
"Don't be distracted by the what if's, should'ves, and if onlys. The one thing you choose yourself - THAT is the truth of your universe." Fav T: Sea, Leta, Really Fav P: Free, Snow Fav Z: ZerO, GGplay, Jaedong, Neo.G_Soulkey
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
November 11 2010 03:40 GMT
#4
lololol very nice banner
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
November 11 2010 04:07 GMT
#5
Stars is going to try and snipe the Dong in a ZvZ. Stars is going to fail.

Predictions:
(T)PianO > (Z)Princess
(T)Really < (Z)Killer
(P)free < (P)BackHo
(Z)Crazy-Hydra < (Z)Jaedong
(Z)ZerO > (T)HiyA
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey > (P)PerfectMan
(Z)ZerO < (Z)Jaedong
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
November 11 2010 04:29 GMT
#6
I think Stars is going to win 4-1.
Liquipedia
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
November 11 2010 04:54 GMT
#7
stars 4-1, zero vs jaedong in an epic hive tech ZvZ please
Writer
rigelq
Profile Joined May 2010
United States230 Posts
November 11 2010 04:56 GMT
#8
OMG yes! my two favorite teams! i wanna see some epic zvz!
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
November 11 2010 05:31 GMT
#9
I picked Stars for my liquidbet so.. stars!
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 14:32:45
November 11 2010 14:30 GMT
#10
Predicting 4:2 loss for Oz, but voted for Oz anyways =[
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
November 11 2010 15:57 GMT
#11
oz to take this 4-2 imo
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 11 2010 16:31 GMT
#12
I just don't see Oz getting more than 1 or maybe 2 games out of this unless Hiya comes out of his slump.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 11 2010 16:49 GMT
#13
Unless the rest of Oz is willing to step up and rise to the level of PerfectMan, I just don't see them making it out of a match like this alive.
High five :---)
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 11 2010 16:50 GMT
#14
Hoping to see the Dong vs SoulKey lol.
Dongrape incoming...
Khassar de Templari
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 11 2010 17:15 GMT
#15
I wish Oz really will show tongue to that easy win's expectations from Woongjin
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 17:31:01
November 11 2010 17:28 GMT
#16
ahh, Stars have a very Zerg-heavy line-up yes?

I hope Soulkey, Zero and Crazy Hydra face JD, killer and Princess, who are all monsters of zvz

or probably some of the Zergs gets Really, who has less than 40% wins TvZ (omfg what an oddity for a terran)

In ace match I see no one who could compete with JD. Even free can't I think. And all other decent players (despite him and Really who's oddly bad at TvZ) are zergs, we all know how much of an auto-loss this is vs JD.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Metalwing
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Turkey1038 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 17:57:09
November 11 2010 17:50 GMT
#17
(T)PianO > (P)PerfectMan
(Z)Neo.G_Soulkey >>>>> (T)HiyA
(Z)ZerO > (P)BackHo
(P)free > (Z)Jaedong

Woongjin Stars will 4-0 Hwaseung OEZ.
#1 CheckPrime fan // Terrans gonna Terran
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
November 11 2010 19:16 GMT
#18
Gogo Stars, down with Hwaseung.
觀過斯知仁矣.
M!SHA
Profile Joined December 2009
44 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 22:49:06
November 11 2010 22:48 GMT
#19
Woongjing 4-1 Oz ezpz



only way oz can win is to somehow drag this into ace match
ZerO Fighting@#!@
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 23:03:32
November 11 2010 23:03 GMT
#20
clearly a few OZ fanboys don't remember GSM

+ Show Spoiler +
zero all-kill hwaseung
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