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swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 22:50:06
October 15 2010 01:29 GMT
#1


Why is Woongjin stars gonna dominate 2010-2011 season


As this long and painful off-season is finally nearing, only one question can be read on every single BW fan's lips... Who will win 2010-2011 Proleague season? SKT! THE RETURN OF BISU, Some claim, “FLASH, THE NEW BONJWA, GOLD TO KT” others will say, all blinded by their rabid Fanboyism, For there is only one team, that will stand head and shoulders above all else.

The cleanse

Over this off-season, Woongjin stars released a total of 6 players, plus traded kwanro to SKT

On September 18 2010 01:04 l10f wrote:
Daezang, Ganzi, Special, MVP, Guemchi all left Woongjin.

Daezang wanted to go into commentating.
Ganzi wanted to go do his military service.
Special wanted to further his education.
MVP said it was too hard for him to be a progamer.
Guemchi said he was tired being a progamer and wanted to go on a vacation.

And as you know Kwanro went to SKT1

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/view.daily?idx=32721&page=1
sorry if repost


many qualified this as Woongjin collapsing, these fools quite clearly lacked common sense. For this was no collapse... it was a cleanse. Now that Woongjin is free from these negative influences, and only the clearly dedicated players are still within the team, forget the zero and free's chokes in ace matches, these were all due to the negative influence bought by these players to the team, in such close knitted community such as a progaming team, only 1 unmotivated player can corrupt the whole atmosphere and give the whole team a losing spirit. With 6 of such individuals, Woongjin never would had fulfilled their glorious destiny, to win the 2010-2011 proleague that is.

The STX masters

Woongjin stars performance in the STX soul masters was simply dominating, first defeating HwaDong(Hwaseung OZ), with their ace, Zero, all-killing.


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This valiant crew moved on to fight CJ entus, after defeating CJ in a tight encounter 4-3, with Terran Hon_Sin winning his first 2 televised games. Soulkey all-killed WemadeFox in a one-sided affair, the next opponent was MBCGame Hero, 3rd place through the regular season, winners league finalist, with the Bonjwa of unimportant matches Sea and winners League style Bonjwa Light, many more blind fanboys predicted a woongjin loss


On August 15 2010 00:29 matjlav wrote:
yum bo sung going to go on a motherfucking RAMPAGE after last night

no one will stop him


On August 15 2010 00:31 infinitestory wrote:
Due to the presence of Light, I feel like, sadly, Stars' strong zergs will get shot down pretty fast. Light has hardly blinked in TvZ in his Last 30 games, losing Only 3 (!!!! >90% winrate). Unless Stars can snipe Light with (probably) free, I find it possible Light will go on a rampage.
Looking forward to seeing hOn_sin playing again, his repair micro was uniquely monstrous.




yet Yom Bo Sung proved no match for up and coming Neo.G. Soulkey, who defeated the imba mech switch with immaculate play, so called TvZ Bonjwa Light rolled over and died to Zero's immaculate play. Woongjin had rolled through 4 teams in order to win the GSM, they were the favored team to beat STX soul and advance to fight KT rolster.

Sadly, after playing 4 games in such a small window of time, any team would be wearied down and stars is no exception, stars went on to lose to STX souls in a 4-2 series. With Zero losing the 6th set for his team to ZvZ sniper modesty, who 9 pooled his 12 hatch.

-zero went 12-1 during this league, achieving a 12 game winning streak.
-Soulkey went 6-2, with immaculate late-game play being displayed.
-woongjin stars made the longest win streak in the GSM's history, with 4 straight wins.

ZvZ Revamped
as explained in this

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there is a newer, heavier on spore and 2 base hive style of ZvZ. As I believe everyone noticed, hive tech ZvZ have become a lot more common recently. Yet, what seems to go unnoticed most of the time is how this revolution (and I will say it , in a close future most ZvZ will get to hive tech and ZvZ will become a macroer match-up) is coming from the woongjin house, Zero is currently Spearheading the new style and soulkey is stepping in his big brother's footsteps, most of the recent hive tech ZvZs include either soulkey or zero (5/7 actually, If I recall correctly). All the developpement Zero bought to this match-up recently got him back his forgotten ZvZ skills. The Ballerness of woongjin's zerg squad is simply unmatched in the pro-gaming world and things are looking wonderful for the 2010-2011.


Supporting Cast

Considering Woongjin stars new acquisitions, I think we agree that woongjin stars is now the deepest team of the whole pro-scene (shut up blind hite entus fanboys). The B-team ended last year's dream league with Silver and now that woongjin acquired flying, I don't think any support cast is looking as mighty as stars'

Hon_Sin: a young Terran who showed nice games in the GSM, nothing to get too hyped about but still looking fairly good

Flying: this Ex-Estro protoss is showing some incredible potential

Neo.G.Soulkey: Soulkey established himself as a good, reliable zerg through the end of last season. Starting from his all-kill of STX during the winners league play-offs first round, Soulkey recorded a 21-11 (65.63%) record. Soulkey is not only winning, he wins with style, through beautiful late-game management. The kid is only 18 and is one of the most promising zerg at the moment.

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Neo.G.Soulkey


Backed by PianO, SaiR, Center, Actually, Eagle and Crazy-Hydra, Woongjin's supporting cast is definitely one of the best, if not the best, in the whole league. Now that regular proleague also is a bo7 format, having a deep team is as important, if not more so, then having a powerful ace


Aces High

Even so, a team cannot make it far without a dominating ace. KT proved this last season. Woongjin does not have a single ace, but three gifted players to lead the team to victory for the 2010-2011 season

Free
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Free had a dominating end of the 2009-2010, walking his royal road undefeated all the way up to the semi-finals. Finishing the OSL with a 10-3 record, beating the likes of stork, Fantasy, Zero(twice), kal and calm, his only defeats to the hands of the recently crowned Bonjwa, Flash. His play Boasted flair, timing and prettiness (see what I did there). Protoss' hope for a starleague between this man's hands (and stork's).


Really
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Woongjin fans are currently dancing in Estro fan's tears, Really now is coming on a traditionally weak Terran team, it is up to him to dismantle this image, and he will. Really is simply an incredibly talented player, he is solid in all match-ups, showed amazing plays throughout this year. Really did have a really(pun intended) shaky end of 2009-2010 but when a player is as talented as really is, such things never lasts and now that he is on woongjin I am certain that he will start 2010-2011 on fire and will soon be considered one of the top terrans once again.


Zero
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Zero is simply the player everyone should be hyped about for the 2010-2011 season. Zero finished last august with a 13-5 record, including a 12 game win streak in the GSM. Some might argue he lost 2 games to Fantasy and 2 other game to free. But if you actually watched the series against Fantasy, Zero was simply dominating Fantasy it was laughable. Unfortunately, his failure to defend Fantasy's desperate drop turned the series around and Fantasy cheesed him out of WCG in game 3. It looked like Zero had not yet recovered for his OSL series against Free and his teammate played a brilliant series to send him out of the OSL 2-0. But now that zero has had a full month to recover, has cured and revolutionized his ZvZ during the GSM. I have no doubt he is skill-wise, as strong as Flash or Jaedong. Zero's true problem lies in his head. He simply lacks Jaedong's mental fortitude to challenge the throne of best zerg. If zero can finally get over this final barrier, the monster will emerge from his chrysalis and both Flash and Jaedong both soon will be, nothing but distant memories, buried by Woongjin's fans' incessant cheering.

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woongjin's fanbase





WOONGJIN STARS FIGHTING

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swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
October 15 2010 01:29 GMT
#2
anyone who disagrees with this is a blind fanboy
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 15 2010 01:33 GMT
#3
STAR HWAITING! Oh gawd, I want to see them facing against KT in the final with ZerO beating Flash ace game! But they just had to give away Kwanro (woulda swithed from Khan to STARS if he didn't leave )
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Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
October 15 2010 01:34 GMT
#4
I did think that the 6 players leading was a sign of collapse, but the fact that they went out and got Really and Flying made me feel otherwise.

That said, there's no possible way this team ever beats KT.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33586 Posts
October 15 2010 01:37 GMT
#5
Woongjin is pretty decent if you have to go 6 deep I guess, but players five and six are kind of blaaah -_-;
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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
October 15 2010 01:38 GMT
#6
i thought this was going to be a realpenguin thread
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 15 2010 01:40 GMT
#7
On October 15 2010 10:34 Antoine wrote:
I did think that the 6 players leading was a sign of collapse, but the fact that they went out and got Really and Flying made me feel otherwise.

That said, there's no possible way this team ever beats KT.


Oh come on lets see one's best Matchups. Really vs Stats or vs Flash. Its really 50/50 for those 2. Free can also take on Flash as well (he doesn't choke like Kal does vs Flash). Free can well against any Zergs that KT throws at them (both him and Action has SICK lategame army but I trust Free's experiences better). It then leaves ForGG as KT's other backup. Pretty sure that ZerO can stop ForGG's timing push and push it into a lategame. I can see Barracks getting play time with Tempest and Violet but ZerO's ZvP is KILLLER as always and SK can take care of Barrack cuz he has more experience.
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swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
October 15 2010 01:41 GMT
#8
On October 15 2010 10:37 Waxangel wrote:
Woongjin is pretty decent if you have to go 6 deep I guess, but players five and six are kind of blaaah -_-;


flying will get good soon don't worry

Hon_sin is a question mark, if he's awful check out... ... ... ...

crazy-hydra?

this kid is awesome...
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
October 15 2010 01:41 GMT
#9
Awesome yet untrue. I might make one to show you why SKT is the true master of the proleague.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 15 2010 01:43 GMT
#10
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krndandaman
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Mozambique16569 Posts
October 15 2010 01:44 GMT
#11
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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
October 15 2010 01:47 GMT
#12
I think Stars is actually in a fairly great position if Zero gets out of his little slump. Zero, Free, Flying, Really, Soulkey... that's a nasty lineup no matter how you look at it.


I had written this about Woongjin in the now closed "who will win proleague" thread.

I'll definitely be rooting for them and CJ this year. ^^
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
October 15 2010 01:48 GMT
#13
On October 15 2010 10:29 swanized wrote:
anyone who disagrees with this is a blind fanboy


aww....your making me blush...

Yes the woonjin's lineup is killer at best but is nothing compared to KT's lineup now that we have action.
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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
October 15 2010 01:48 GMT
#14
Totally agree. They are going to be the new small connected team, now that eSTRO's gone, but with a lot more skill.

If they don't overwork themselves, i can see them being so solid in a bo5.
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Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 01:56:35
October 15 2010 01:50 GMT
#15
I think Woogjin will be up in the top few, since Zero/Free are solid. Really is a good terran, but towards the end of the season even terrans were starting to get the better of him (despite 1 win against the slumping Flash). Other then that he still gets absolutely dominated by zergs.

Soulkey is a solid rookie zerg though who surprised a lot of people with clutch all kills, but Flying on the other hand seemed to have really good months and kinda mediocre months.

I'm a KT fanboy, but I'd say KT/SKT1/Woogjin will be top three (going off what I know from last season). Anything can happen though.

edit: Suppose with the new Bo7 format depth means a lot more this time around, but KT has Action/ForGG/Flash/Stats/Violet/Tempest (hoejja is awful, don't even bother ) and SKT1 has Fantasy/Bisu/Hyuk/Best/s2/KWANNROOOOOOO (Canata was pretty awful but had some decent wins in the Proleague playoffs).


On October 15 2010 10:44 krndandaman wrote:
Free looks lost whenever he faces flash. Recent records prove that too

I think you can say that about a lot of players when they play Flash.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
October 15 2010 01:53 GMT
#16
On October 15 2010 10:29 swanized wrote:
he is solid in all match-ups,


I am skeptical of this statement...
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-15 01:57:45
October 15 2010 01:56 GMT
#17
On October 15 2010 10:53 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2010 10:29 swanized wrote:
he is solid in all match-ups,


I am skeptical of this statement...


you blind fanboy...

he's better then what his stats tells imo,

let me write what I want in my hype article >_<
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Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 15 2010 02:02 GMT
#18
I AGREE WITH THE OP.

Stars fighting! PL champs this year for surrrrrre.
Zero fighting.
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
October 15 2010 02:09 GMT
#19
I actually had to rewrite this halfway through because Woongjin drafted Really and Flying O_O
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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
October 15 2010 02:12 GMT
#20
Really's TvZ is the best...
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