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[GSM] KT Rolster vs STX SouL - Page 21

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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 11:07:07
August 17 2010 11:06 GMT
#401
On August 17 2010 20:04 SplashbackFerret wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:03 Corrupt wrote:
It's what you get for your bunkers man! :D
Now what.. Flash > Calm followed by Flash > Modesty? :>


cuteangel > flash


eww cuteangel better not play
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 17 2010 11:06 GMT
#402
On August 17 2010 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:05 Zona wrote:
Bah if you called Calm's strategy "cheese" then everything nonstandard by zerg is cheese?

Calm's move was a good reaction to what he knew of forgg's build - fast factory and expo means forgoing a lot of tech and units, Forgg's build was terribly vulnerable and relied on terran's amazing ability to defend in early game with almost nothing - but it's not invincible and Calm exploited one of its vulnerabilities


Uhhh, lurkers off that drone count is cheese, dude.


It was "all-in" after Calm decided to cut Drones and go for it like that, but it wasn't a pre-planned cheese. It's called good reaction to seeing Forgg played like a greedy fucker and having nothing lol.
TranslatorBaa!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 17 2010 11:07 GMT
#403
By the way, I really don't like when players too easily reveal their oddball builds - it makes it so much easier for opponents to react.

Sure the factory made walling the choke easier, but I would have preferred if it was hidden
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
August 17 2010 11:07 GMT
#404
On August 17 2010 20:05 Katsuge wrote:
RELEASE THE KRAKEN

hahaha
One ring, to rule them all!
Graham
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 11:08:27
August 17 2010 11:07 GMT
#405


purpose
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden1017 Posts
August 17 2010 11:07 GMT
#406
If Terran lose its lame as gay chees......if terran chees its not chees, its just high level play thats amazing to see.....case closed!
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 17 2010 11:07 GMT
#407
No more fucking around for KT.

I think shuttle is the only 1 left that might give flash trouble
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
August 17 2010 11:08 GMT
#408
IMAGINE WHAT A WHOLE CHOCOLATE BAR DOES TO A GREEDY MONKEY.
POGGERS
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
August 17 2010 11:08 GMT
#409
On August 17 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 Zona wrote:
Bah if you called Calm's strategy "cheese" then everything nonstandard by zerg is cheese?

Calm's move was a good reaction to what he knew of forgg's build - fast factory and expo means forgoing a lot of tech and units, Forgg's build was terribly vulnerable and relied on terran's amazing ability to defend in early game with almost nothing - but it's not invincible and Calm exploited one of its vulnerabilities


Uhhh, lurkers off that drone count is cheese, dude.


It was "all-in" after Calm decided to cut Drones and go for it like that, but it wasn't a pre-planned cheese. It's called good reaction to seeing Forgg played like a greedy fucker and having nothing lol.
Oh good, to add to the confusion of what constitutes cheese, from now on we have to distinguish between "pre-planned" and improvised cheese too.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 17 2010 11:09 GMT
#410
TL needs MOAR MONKEYS!!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
August 17 2010 11:09 GMT
#411
On August 17 2010 20:08 konadora wrote:
IMAGINE WHAT A WHOLE CHOCOLATE BAR DOES TO A GREEDY MONKEY.

BW is back
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 17 2010 11:09 GMT
#412
On August 17 2010 20:08 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 Zona wrote:
Bah if you called Calm's strategy "cheese" then everything nonstandard by zerg is cheese?

Calm's move was a good reaction to what he knew of forgg's build - fast factory and expo means forgoing a lot of tech and units, Forgg's build was terribly vulnerable and relied on terran's amazing ability to defend in early game with almost nothing - but it's not invincible and Calm exploited one of its vulnerabilities


Uhhh, lurkers off that drone count is cheese, dude.


It was "all-in" after Calm decided to cut Drones and go for it like that, but it wasn't a pre-planned cheese. It's called good reaction to seeing Forgg played like a greedy fucker and having nothing lol.
Oh good, to add to the confusion of what constitutes cheese, from now on we have to distinguish between "pre-planned" and improvised cheese too.


? What? By your logic, if a player has a big army and decides to attack with everything and it fails and he dies, he cheesed and failed?

There's a difference between 4 Pooling and seeing your opponent has nothing and massing units to attack.
TranslatorBaa!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 17 2010 11:09 GMT
#413
On August 17 2010 20:07 SubtleArt wrote:
No more fucking around for KT.

I think shuttle is the only 1 left that might give flash trouble


i like his pvt
him beating flash would make my day
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 17 2010 11:09 GMT
#414
On August 17 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 Zona wrote:
Bah if you called Calm's strategy "cheese" then everything nonstandard by zerg is cheese?

Calm's move was a good reaction to what he knew of forgg's build - fast factory and expo means forgoing a lot of tech and units, Forgg's build was terribly vulnerable and relied on terran's amazing ability to defend in early game with almost nothing - but it's not invincible and Calm exploited one of its vulnerabilities


Uhhh, lurkers off that drone count is cheese, dude.


It was "all-in" after Calm decided to cut Drones and go for it like that, but it wasn't a pre-planned cheese. It's called good reaction to seeing Forgg played like a greedy fucker and having nothing lol.


I agree, but adaptive cheese is still cheese.

Also this is why I said you shouldn't have been the KT rep in that article, Mr.STX fan. >:o
Remember Violet.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 17 2010 11:10 GMT
#415
On August 17 2010 20:07 purpose wrote:
If Terran lose its lame as gay chees......if terran chees its not chees, its just high level play thats amazing to see.....case closed!


Actually I think everyone thinks just the opposite. Scouting is a lot easier for terran in TvZ, especially early gameaa
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-17 11:12:11
August 17 2010 11:10 GMT
#416
On August 17 2010 20:09 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 Zona wrote:
Bah if you called Calm's strategy "cheese" then everything nonstandard by zerg is cheese?

Calm's move was a good reaction to what he knew of forgg's build - fast factory and expo means forgoing a lot of tech and units, Forgg's build was terribly vulnerable and relied on terran's amazing ability to defend in early game with almost nothing - but it's not invincible and Calm exploited one of its vulnerabilities


Uhhh, lurkers off that drone count is cheese, dude.


It was "all-in" after Calm decided to cut Drones and go for it like that, but it wasn't a pre-planned cheese. It's called good reaction to seeing Forgg played like a greedy fucker and having nothing lol.


I agree, but adaptive cheese is still cheese.

Also this is why I said you shouldn't have been the KT rep in that article, Mr.STX fan. >:o


i know im a stx fan but, adaptive cheese lol?

Someone goes 3 hatch before pool, so you scout this, and 2 rax. cheese?
zvp you scout toss getting one cannon, you get ling speed and make 12 lings, cheese?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
August 17 2010 11:10 GMT
#417
holy crap

she's on a boat
POGGERS
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 17 2010 11:11 GMT
#418
who gives a shit if it's cheese? It's a legit strategy.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia934 Posts
August 17 2010 11:11 GMT
#419
If you scout the situation and your conclusion is that `if i cut workers and do X, no way he can hold it no matter what he tries from this point on`, then it isn't cheese, it's outplaying someone.

Whether that was the case this game, though, idk - didn't pay much attention to it.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 17 2010 11:12 GMT
#420
On August 17 2010 20:08 okum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2010 20:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On August 17 2010 20:05 Zona wrote:
Bah if you called Calm's strategy "cheese" then everything nonstandard by zerg is cheese?

Calm's move was a good reaction to what he knew of forgg's build - fast factory and expo means forgoing a lot of tech and units, Forgg's build was terribly vulnerable and relied on terran's amazing ability to defend in early game with almost nothing - but it's not invincible and Calm exploited one of its vulnerabilities


Uhhh, lurkers off that drone count is cheese, dude.


It was "all-in" after Calm decided to cut Drones and go for it like that, but it wasn't a pre-planned cheese. It's called good reaction to seeing Forgg played like a greedy fucker and having nothing lol.
Oh good, to add to the confusion of what constitutes cheese, from now on we have to distinguish between "pre-planned" and improvised cheese too.

There's already no agreement on what constitutes cheese on these forums. Some people here even call greedy builds "cheese" which is rather perplexing to me. But with "cheese" as a term often thrown around in a negative way, I don't think punishing an opponent's build should be considered negatively the same way a nonstandard aggressive build performed by a player who is seen to be afraid to play another play standard is seen negatively.

Of course I don't view the latter scenario negatively either.

Flash drinking pocari sweat again! I haven't seen him drink it in ages. Did the sponsor send a new supply? Or the fans?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
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